[Hofman]

Originally Posted by just thinkin

You do not invade somebodys personal space uninvited...ever. aaron jumped up on joel..he made contact with him...there is no excuse. Hes an adult. It's not harriets fault. Not the housemates fault for laughing. Aaron did it himself. Making excuses for this behaviour for the sake of entertainment is astonishing.

Your logic is ridiculous. Those who encouraged and fuelled the event are not innocent. Would it be ok to stand around, encourage and laugh at a sexual assault. No. If any of them had a spine, they would have grabbed Aaron and told him he was crossing lines and to cool it down.

[bitontheslide]

It showed how spineless the males are in that house actually

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by lily.

Yeah, Beetlejuice, they should have waited til Aaron bent Joel over the bed and stuck his thumb up his arse before doing anything.

Seriously man..

Aaron was clearly having a laugh, he was not gonna do what you're suggesting.

[Nancy.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Well tonights show was ridiculous, Aaron shouldn't have been thrown out when gay contestants have been much worse than that in past BB's.

And it also put me off Joel tonight too with him laughing at Aaron in the Bedroom, to him attacking Aaron in the Diary Room in the next breath.

Aaron was having a laugh and he thought that Joel was too, he should've only had a warning at most.

Agree!

[Nancy.]

Originally Posted by just thinkin

You do not invade somebodys personal space uninvited...ever. aaron jumped up on joel..he made contact with him...there is no excuse. Hes an adult. It's not harriets fault. Not the housemates fault for laughing. Aaron did it himself. Making excuses for this behaviour for the sake of entertainment is astonishing.

Then Joel should have spoken to Aaron in an authoritive manner instead of laughing and pretending it was ok. If he had nipped it in the bud shortly after entering the house Aaron might still be there.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Aaron was clearly having a laugh, he was not gonna do what you're suggesting.

I wouldn't put it past him

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by adamski94

I wouldn't put it past him

[jaxie]

How many more threads do you need to justify your outraged standpoint?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Nancy Littlebottom

Then Joel should have spoken to Aaron in an authoritive manner instead of laughing and pretending it was ok. If he had nipped it in the bud shortly after entering the house Aaron might still be there.

So basically it's Joels fault Aaron was removed? is that what youre saying?

I think that's what's commonly known as victim blaming.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Josy

So basically it's Joels fault Aaron was removed? is that what youre saying?

I think that's what's commonly known as victim blaming.

The same thing with Chloe Jasmine happened in January, it's hardly a shock

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Jake.

The same thing with Chloe Jasmine happened in January, it's hardly a shock

[Withano]

Having or laugh, being drunk or being a controversial character isn't an excuse for physically, emotionally or verbally inappropriate behaviour, are these the best arguments people have? They're all dumb, Aaron was correctly removed from the house.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Josy

Think how Joels family would have felt watching that if nothing had been done about it, again i'm gobsmacked people are defending Aarons actions

This.

[just thinkin]

I dont agree hoffman. The man is old enough to take responsibility for his actions. The 'they encouraged me to do it' line doesnt work. If the egged him on to jump off a bridge would he do that. His actions..hia fault.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Nancy Littlebottom

Then Joel should have spoken to Aaron in an authoritive manner instead of laughing and pretending it was ok. If he had nipped it in the bud shortly after entering the house Aaron might still be there.

Last time he did something like that Aaron took it sexually too...I dont remember the exact situation but I do remember Aaron 'flirting' because Joel had apparently been 'dominant' :S

I honestly don't think its right to blame Joel for 'not being authoritative' or whatever. Its not a situation many guys would find themselves in so its impossible to know how on earth anyone would react to that

My partner reckons he would have punched him as soon as he touched him in that way. I think that would probably be the reaction of most straight men being persistently chased by another guy..


Personally, I would probably laugh something like that off then have words (in private) the next day..definitely not infront of a room of people who are all egging it on. However a lot of women would deal with it differently...some may go hysterical, some may hit the person, some might completely ignore it. I can't really judge someone for their reaction to a situation like this...

[Hofman]

Originally Posted by just thinkin

I dont agree hoffman. The man is old enough to take responsibility for his actions. The 'they encouraged me to do it' line doesnt work. If the egged him on to jump off a bridge would he do that. His actions..hia fault.

You misunderstand me, I'm not saying that is an excuse for him in anyway, I'm saying that the rest played a part and are not innocent and although not to blame for his actions are responsible for their own actions which were disgraceful. So I agree with you but the others still have actions and behaviour they should be reprimanded for

[just thinkin]

Oh so it's joels fault now....blame the victim syndrome alive and well in the uk.

[Tony1111]

It was all very vile and disturbing now who has screen caps so I can inspect the incident further?

No I am kidding. If I was Joel I would have been uncomfortable and would not have liked someone rubbing their junk on me or around my bed. Wasn't really like the BB's of yesterday when they had a nude mud wrestling task or Kinga shoving a bottle up herself in plain sight.

[just thinkin]

I get you and agree hoffman.

[Nancy.]

Originally Posted by Josy

So basically it's Joels fault Aaron was removed? is that what youre saying?

I think that's what's commonly known as victim blaming.

Joel and Aaron are equally to blame for letting it get as far as it did.

But really, it's not like Aaron pulled Joel's pants around his ankles and gave him a good seeing too. People really need to lighten up.

[Hofman]

Originally Posted by just thinkin

I get you and agree hoffman.

[ThriceShy]

I can only speak for myself but if I was in Joel's position and was uncomfortable with a naked gay man harassing me then the LAST thing I would do is laugh about it and throw cushions at him.

I would leave the room and actually seek out big brother to complain.

Joel has stitched Aaron up here big time.

[Hofman]

Originally Posted by Nancy Littlebottom

Joel and Aaron are equally to blame for letting it get as far as it did.

But really, it's not like Aaron pulled Joel's pants around his ankles and gave him a good seeing too. People really need to lighten up.

Sorry, that just made me laugh a lot and it shouldn't of

[Nancy.]

Originally Posted by Hofman

Sorry, that just made me laugh a lot and it shouldn't of

[Nancy.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

I can only speak for myself but if I was in Joel's position and was uncomfortable with a naked gay man harassing me then the LAST thing I would do is laugh about it and throw cushions at him.

I would leave the room and actually seek out big brother to complain.

Joel has stitched Aaron up here big time.

EXACTLY!!!!!