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23-09-2020, 07:55 AM | #51 | |||
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of course white people made those complaints
black people wouldn't complain since subject is their cause
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23-09-2020, 09:09 AM | #52 | |||
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No parm, you obviously wanted to trade insults and I just didn't want to go down that route.
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23-09-2020, 06:43 PM | #53 | |||
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It's no secret there are lots of black people against BLM Nicky. It's silly to assume every complainer was white. What about Asian, black etc. Though it's fair to say the majority were most likely white.
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24-09-2020, 06:07 AM | #54 | |||
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Stating what you thought my aims were..you posted this catty remark at the end of your first post to me.. "we can have that conversation, but I don't really think that's what you want" You still foolishly hold that belief by the sounds of it, merely cause j posted a video showing a black person can be against blm as well.. You are the one with the problem mate. Last edited by parmnion; 24-09-2020 at 06:13 AM. |
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24-09-2020, 06:34 AM | #55 | |||
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Zumi Zimi Zami
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then they are hypocrites to be against their own cause
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24-09-2020, 06:49 AM | #56 | |||
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...I’m not sure that I would consider equality of all a ‘cause’ as such...but yeah, it would be strange to think that someone/anyone would have a mindset of...no, our lives don’t matter so much, they’re a bit less than...
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24-09-2020, 06:51 AM | #57 | |||
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and BLM is good to fight racism
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24-09-2020, 06:52 AM | #58 | |||
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I agree with Ammi....I can't see members of the Black community disagreeing that Black Lives Matter, they may disagree with some of the actions of a small group of people but I would have thought to have any self worth they must agree that they deserve the equality
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24-09-2020, 07:00 AM | #59 | |||
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the small group of people who bring negativity onto the cause
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24-09-2020, 04:06 PM | #60 | |||
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24-09-2020, 04:34 PM | #61 | ||
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Facepalm all you want, there's a pattern of vandalism and crimes committed at protests being done by white supremacists. In most places where protests turned violent, you can bet there was a white supremacist at the heart of it.
The vast majority of protests are peaceful because they aren't sabotaged. |
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24-09-2020, 04:38 PM | #62 | ||
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Also you won't get many black people outside the likes of Candace Owens who only has a career so white republicans can be like 'look, we aren't racist, a black person agrees with us!' who disagree with BLM. It's the same with LGBT people, you have a number of gays in republican pockets simply because it makes them look less homophobic.
Right Wing commentators will say the lines they are paid to say but most others won't oppose BLM because they've lived experiencing why they need change. |
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24-09-2020, 04:40 PM | #63 | |||
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All undercover cops and white supremacists? I know you wont watch, but it's pretty clear what's happening in the video.
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24-09-2020, 05:15 PM | #64 | |||
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24-09-2020, 08:37 PM | #65 | ||
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You should ask yourself why you are so intent on trying to discredit people protesting police brutality. |
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24-09-2020, 09:35 PM | #66 | |||
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If you wanna blame that kind of behaviour on white supremacy, and/or right wingers that's up to you.
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24-09-2020, 10:40 PM | #67 | |||
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You can acknowledge that black lives matter and simultaneously not like the rioting which has been attributed to them (and unless you look on every corner of the net you'd have no reason to doubt the attributions are rightful) and also dislike their links to communism. Disliking the movement of Black Lives Matter isn't the same as saying that black lives don't matter.
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25-09-2020, 02:04 AM | #68 | ||
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Yes, I will blame the violence on the racists, that is the correct outcome in this conversation. For every protest that gets sabotaged to violence, there are hundreds of peaceful protest without any racist interference. But by all means, make out that I'm just believing what I want to believe, you obviously know more about this then the police that investigated cases of violence throughout the protests that all led back to racist interference. |
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25-09-2020, 02:05 AM | #69 | ||
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25-09-2020, 02:18 AM | #70 | |||
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25-09-2020, 06:55 AM | #71 | ||
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Rioting and looting is a symptom of civil unrest and has been since there was a civilisation to be unrestful. It's just an inevitability of prolonged protest and should be viewed as a side-issue; it makes no difference in terms of discussing the reasons for the original protesting, though people will be more than happy to use it as a distraction.
Small groups of opportunistic people will use the cover of civil unrest to carry out selfish actions. You can acknowledge that but it's not really a key issue... It's just dolphins surfing the wake of a ship. Last edited by Toy Soldier; 25-09-2020 at 06:55 AM. |
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25-09-2020, 11:26 AM | #72 | |||
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25-09-2020, 11:36 AM | #73 | |||
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I think a murder is an excellent reason for a riot...especially if those doing the murdering are in the business of law enforcement. ..
Protests peaceful or otherwise are a gauge of public feeling, how are the public feeling about this? Throughout history there have been violent and non violent protests and riots for noble causes, and for things that the modern day take for granted. They are sometimes necessary. .. when all other avenues have been exhausted. Of course they're not ideal, but can everyone hand on heart say they are never warranted? Imo no.
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25-09-2020, 11:49 AM | #74 | |||
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If they took their riots to the police stations or City Hall (if that's the right term ) I might well be in support. Take it to the perpetrators!
But the level of destruction is inexcusable; pardon the anecdotal evidence but a twitter "friend" of mine lives in Chicago, and the riots left him without available food or medication for at least five miles. You'd be hard-pressed to find anyone sane who agrees with the police murdering people, but it'd be just as hard to find anyone who thinks a riot which achieved nothing but a food desert was worth it. |
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25-09-2020, 11:58 AM | #75 | |||
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