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Old 20-09-2015, 07:00 AM #101
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If you are stupid enough to have your details on sites like that then you take the risk of them being hacked... it's the internet, it happens.
The difference there being it's your choice, the proposals that security services have everyones data is not our choice is it?
So although you've manipulated this scenario to meet your agenda it hasn't worked has it? Because the flaws are apparent.
Cheating may be immoral but it is not illegal. Hacking, extortion and blackmail are.

By your criterion, if stupidity justifies being a victim of crime, every skimpily dressed girl in our town centres on a weekend is 'asking for it', and anyone taking a shortcut through a dark underpass on a night is asking to be robbed.

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Whilst cheating isn't illegal, what it can do is destroy the life of the spouse and throw a childs life into turmoil. One of the common reasons for men committing suicide and attempting suicide is from a marriage/relationship split because men who lose their wife often have complicated access to their children.

Remaining faithful doesn't have to follow the rules of law but having an affair can devastate lives; therefore, promoting and enticing people to be unfaithful in my eyes is heinous because of the devastation that often follows.

Here's another example of action that can be deemed illegal.
You see a distressed dog in a hot car so you call 999. After a further 10-15 minutes of the police not arriving you take action into your own hands and smash a window. This could be classed as criminal damage and, potentially, you may need to be prepared to defend your actions in court. Did you do the right thing or should you only work within the arm of the law?

The question is, should this site of been allowed to continue? and should we sympathise with this site over what happened to it?

I feel that because of the sheer number of members on that site, all looking to do something that society deems immoral; it speaks volumes about how fractured our society is regarding being faithful within a relationship.

I also don't believe that these hackers thought about the consequences of their actions. The aftermath of devastation is huge because spouses not in the know are now in the know. The site itself was charging for people to delete profiles and when members got wind of what was about to happen, there was a sudden flood of people paying to get out (hmm something not quite right about this). Profiles were deleted but peoples information was stored and not deleted, so even if they weren't continuing with the site they were still outed.
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Old 20-09-2015, 09:04 AM #103
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Cheating may be immoral but it is not illegal. Hacking, extortion and blackmail are.

By your criterion, if stupidity justifies being a victim of crime, every skimpily dressed girl in our town centres on a weekend is 'asking for it', and anyone taking a shortcut through a dark underpass on a night is asking to be robbed.

Wow this debate got very dark very fast, no the two crimes are in no way similar,.there couldn't and shouldn't be any comparisons drawn.
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So we're going with...

Unnamed illegal hackers releasing people's details on the Internet if what those people are doing breaks their particular code of ethics but doesn't necessarily break the law = Good.

MI5 want more power to do their jobs = Bad.

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So we're going with...

Unnamed illegal hackers releasing people's details on the Internet if what those people are doing breaks their particular code of ethics but doesn't necessarily break the law = Good.

MI5 want more power to do their jobs = Bad.
I explained my stance on this yesterday, if that's what you're going with it seems rather simplistic... Don't forget that at the moment MI5 are illegal hackers.
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