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ThriceShy · 09-01-2016, 10:09 PM

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Anyone that votes against equality is a douchebag so I don't quite get the argument. Are you sayin because so many people agree with winstons ignorant homophobic views that makes them correct? It doesn't.

I am saying it makes the treatment of him bizarre. Especially as another CBB winner has demonstrated real homophobia on TV.

Glenn. · 09-01-2016, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy

it was 7 years before jim Davidson appeared in CBB.

So are you saying in 7 years Winstons comments won't matter any more. Fair enough.

Jim Davidson appeared on an entirely different show on a completely different channel. Of course something that happened 7yrs previous wasn't going to be mentioned. On what basis would it be? If this is literally your side of the debate it's pretty poor.

Winstons behaviour and ignorant views that he expressed on the show he was evicted from are what he is being judged on. Is that so difficult to understand?

Vicky. · 09-01-2016, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Quasar

Jim Davidson appeared on an entirely different show on a completely different channel. Of course something that happened 7yrs previous wasn't going to be mentioned. On what basis would it be? If this is literally your side of the debate it's pretty poor.

Winstons behaviour and ignorant views that he expressed on the show he was evicted from are what he is being judged on. Is that so difficult to understand?

Tbf though, Winstons was only said on the show because BB brought it up. I guess it could be argued that they could have done a task designed to out Jim the same.

I didn't watch Jims series nor do I know much about the guy but I think this may be part of the issue.

As for the OP. I think Winstons speech was a load of waffle. He could have used it to explain a bit but no, he went off on a tangent about irrelevant stuff then told the others to put their hands up (!) to ask questions. I don't think the issue was that he was against gay adoption, more the child abuse comment..whcih is understandable.

Davids 'ANYONE should be able to adopt' amused me slightly though....anyone? Really?

ThriceShy · 09-01-2016, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Quasar

Jim Davidson appeared on an entirely different show on a completely different channel. Of course something that happened 7yrs previous wasn't going to be mentioned. On what basis would it be? If this is literally your side of the debate it's pretty poor.

Winstons behaviour and ignorant views that he expressed on the show he was evicted from are what he is being judged on. Is that so difficult to understand?

He didn't express them on the show. He gave a political opinion during an election campaign, 7 months before the show.

On the other hand, Jim Davidson has had a reputation for 40 years of being a homophobe and racist. He was thrown off a show for abusing a former presenter of BB.

If you don't find a strange disparity in their treatment then I can't help you, I'm afraid.

Glenn. · 09-01-2016, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

Tbf though, Winstons was only said on the show because BB brought it up. I guess it could be argued that they could have done a task designed to out Jim the same.

I didn't watch Jims series nor do I know much about the guy but I think this may be part of the issue.

As for the OP. I think Winstons speech was a load of waffle. He could have used it to explain a bit but no, he went off on a tangent about irrelevant stuff then told the others to put their hands up (!) to ask questions. I don't think the issue was that he was against gay adoption, more the child abuse comment..whcih is understandable.

Davids 'ANYONE should be able to adopt' amused me slightly though....anyone? Really?

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy

He didn't express them on the show. He gave a political opinion during an election campaign, 7 months before the show.

On the other hand, Jim Davidson has had a reputation for 40 years of being a homophobe and racist. He was thrown off a show for abusing a former presenter of BB.

If you don't find a strange disparity in their treatment then I can't help you, I'm afraid.

Everyone seems to be forgetting the homophobic slurs in his VT? Asks his chance to put the adoption thing down as paper talk. Instead he proudly admitted it and refused to back down. Regardless of his ignorant election campaign, his behaviour and attitude is unacceptable.

Amy Jade · 09-01-2016, 10:19 PM

I respect your opinion that he was right.

I disagree and think he was talking a load of ****.

Glenn. · 09-01-2016, 10:20 PM

I don't respect people who agree with ignorant homophobes

ThriceShy · 09-01-2016, 10:22 PM

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I don't respect people who agree with ignorant homophobes

So you don't respect Emma then as she was happy to cosy up with homophobe jim Davidson.

Glenn. · 09-01-2016, 10:24 PM

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So you don't respect Emma then as she was happy to cosy up with homophobe jim Davidson.

Not once have I said I do

Glenn. · 09-01-2016, 10:25 PM

Stop dragging Jim Davidson into your weak ass argument.

Amy Jade · 09-01-2016, 10:26 PM

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So you don't respect Emma then as she was happy to cosy up with homophobe jim Davidson.

You keep saying this but Jim said that about 10 years ago and he never said anything like it during his stay in the house so he could neither retract or confirm his view.

Winston admitted he said and still thought a gay couple adopting was child abuse - the homophobic aspect aside that is a disgusting view to carry - likening him to Jim makes Winston no better.

ThriceShy · 09-01-2016, 10:27 PM

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Stop dragging Jim Davidson into your weak ass argument.

Makes it a bit difficult for you doesn't it.

Vicky. · 09-01-2016, 10:29 PM

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Everyone seems to be forgetting the homophobic slurs in his VT? Asks his chance to put the adoption thing down as paper talk. Instead he proudly admitted it and refused to back down. Regardless of his ignorant election campaign, his behaviour and attitude is unacceptable.

Nope not forgetting that. I thought the main issue was the child abuse thing though. Which was actually brought up by BB

I suspect as they were pissed off that Winston had not been as homophobic as they wishes him to be during his stay inside the house up til then

Glenn. · 09-01-2016, 10:30 PM

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Makes it a bit difficult for you doesn't it.

No it just makes no sense. It's completely irrelevant.

I'd understand if Jim was homophobic on big brother but he wasn't. The two don't compare.

reece(: · 09-01-2016, 10:31 PM

Jim Davidson argument is completely irrelevant, as was the Katie Hopkins one.

Glenn. · 09-01-2016, 10:32 PM

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Nope not forgetting that. I thought the main issue was the child abuse thing though. Which was actually brought up by BB

I suspect as they were pissed off that Winston had not been as homophobic as they wishes him to be during his stay inside the house up til then

Which is fair enough and I don't really dispute it. But Winston could have had it backfire on them and denied it. Instead proudly admitted it and didn't back down from it. There's no difference. Nothing changes what an awful person he is regardless.

parmnion · 09-01-2016, 10:32 PM

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Everyone seems to be forgetting the homophobic slurs in his VT? Asks his chance to put the adoption thing down as paper talk. Instead he proudly admitted it and refused to back down. Regardless of his ignorant election campaign, his behaviour and attitude is unacceptable.

If you're offended by his jokey backs to the wall comment then you need to get a better grip on reality.