[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Not Yet.

They had to request the ruling be set aside in court at the hearing arista..not when it pleases them.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

They had to request the ruling be set aside in court at the hearing arista..not when it pleases them.

The appeal..how long can that be drawn out for?

[parmnion]

Just a thought.....


Britain has always been bang on regarding espionage and secretive shizzle. ..


Imagine if this was all a sneeky ploy....or would that be classed as tin hat worthy?

[smudgie]

So the English court threw it out, how can the Scottish civil ruling override that.
Uk Supreme Court will rule on Tuesday, hopefully whichever way it goes it is carried out.
Can’t wait for all this shambolic lot to be sorted.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by smudgie

So the English court threw it out, how can the Scottish civil ruling override that.
Uk Supreme Court will rule on Tuesday, hopefully whichever way it goes it is carried out.
Can’t wait for all this shambolic lot to be sorted.

They work to a different book so the same thing can be challenged in both courts....I think.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by parmnion

They work to a different book so the same thing can be challenged in both courts....I think.

There are 2 different cases.
The high court in England didn't uphold the Gina Miller case.
So they're taking it to the higher English supreme court.

The Scottish case in the Supreme court today is the Joanna Cherry case.

The lower courts haven't upheld the cases against the government.

However this higher Supreme court in Scotland has.

Now it may be, the English Supreme court may take both cases together.
Maybe not.

However if the higher English Supreme court now upholds the ruling from this Supreme court today.

Then Mr Johnson is likely in deep trouble for his rash and unsavoury type of democracy.
He has to hope the Supreme court next week agrees wholly with him.
Because if they don't.
His more than usual deceit will be well and truly exposed.

Justice has every right to be done however and it shouldn't be an issue where and how justice is sought.
Or how long it takes.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

There are 2 different cases.
The high court in England didn't uphold the Gina Miller case.
So they're taking it to the higher English supreme court.

The Scottish case in the Supreme court today is the Joanna Cherry case.

The lower courts haven't upheld the cases against the government.

However this higher Supreme court in Scotland has.

Now it may be, the English Supreme court may take both cases together.
Maybe not.

However if the higher English Supreme court now upholds the ruling from this Supreme court today.

Then Mr Johnson is likely in deep trouble for his rash and unsavoury type of democracy.
He has to hope the Supreme court next week agrees wholly with him.
Because if they don't.
His more than usual deceit will be well and truly exposed.

Justice has every right to be done however and it shouldn't be an issue where and how justice is sought.
Or how long it takes.

I will.pee myself if it ends up in the eu human courts....thanks for that info though joey..

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

There are 2 different cases.
The high court in England didn't uphold the Gina Miller case.
So they're taking it to the higher English supreme court.

The Scottish case in the Supreme court today is the Joanna Cherry case.

The lower courts haven't upheld the cases against the government.

However this higher Supreme court in Scotland has.

Now it may be, the English Supreme court may take both cases together.
Maybe not.

However if the higher English Supreme court now upholds the ruling from this Supreme court today.

Then Mr Johnson is likely in deep trouble for his rash and unsavoury type of democracy.
He has to hope the Supreme court next week agrees wholly with him.
Because if they don't.
His more than usual deceit will be well and truly exposed.

Justice has every right to be done however and it shouldn't be an issue where and how justice is sought.
Or how long it takes.

Thanks Joey, it is all so chaotic and hard to follow at the moment.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Thanks Joey, it is all so chaotic and hard to follow at the moment.

it's complicated by the fact that the Scottish and English legal systems are completely separate, so it doesn't matter what the English supreme court result is. As the UK parliament looks after scottish interests as well as english, rulings from Scottish courts apply. If the Scottish High court has deemed Boris's action illegal, it is illegal, it doesn't matter what the english supreme court view is.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

There are 2 different cases.
The high court in England didn't uphold the Gina Miller case.
So they're taking it to the higher English supreme court.

The Scottish case in the Supreme court today is the Joanna Cherry case.

The lower courts haven't upheld the cases against the government.

However this higher Supreme court in Scotland has.

Now it may be, the English Supreme court may take both cases together.
Maybe not.

However if the higher English Supreme court now upholds the ruling from this Supreme court today.

Then Mr Johnson is likely in deep trouble for his rash and unsavoury type of democracy.
He has to hope the Supreme court next week agrees wholly with him.
Because if they don't.
His more than usual deceit will be well and truly exposed.

Justice has every right to be done however and it shouldn't be an issue where and how justice is sought.
Or how long it takes.

I read there is a different approach to constitutional law matters in Scotland and England.
Apparently there is little chance of repeating the Scottish verdict in London. A shame

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Thanks Joey, it is all so chaotic and hard to follow at the moment.

He's a really nice guy joey, smudgie. As I'm sure you are aware..fantastic bb memories
..

I HATE BREXIT.....for that reason. ...it really makes me sad the way the forum has splintered in 4

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by parmnion

He's a really nice guy joey, smudgie. As I'm sure you are aware..fantastic bb memories
..

I HATE BREXIT.....for that reason. ...it really makes me sad the way the forum has splintered in 4

Indeed Parmy.
We have had plenty of political conversations, don’t always agree but I always respect his point of view.
Brexit won’t put me off anybody, not worth falling out over different viewpoints.

[arista]

Operation Yellowhammer: Government no-deal Brexit documents released

https://news.sky.com/story/operation...eased-11807339

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Thanks Joey, it is all so chaotic and hard to follow at the moment.

It is smudgie and it's desperately sad really.

All this should and could have been avoided.
In 2017 had Theresa May included properly all the Parties in parliament.
Then enabled free votes.
All MPs could have voted as to their consciences.

I think her and the EUs agreement may have had s couple of things different bit been passed at first trying.

There's no chance of consensus with this PM.

It's all desperately sad.

I voted remain and would over and over again.
However, I would be happy with a deal even Mrs Mays deal.
Which I said MPs should support last time it was put forward.

By the same token, I'll support anyone in any legal means to stop this madman plunging the whole UK into a no deal brexit.

It should never have come to this point.
While I will never agree with Johnson ever, especially on brexit.

The one I'll always blame the most for this, is Mrs May and her never ending uncompromising stance all through.
She should have led for all, not just her own prestige and Party.

That's hindsight for you.
Why can't we have politicians more prepared to try to acquire foresight on vital issues that affect the whole UK, and its citizens.

[parmnion]

I was complaining about the uk being dragged back into the dark old days of union rule. .bit now I hanker for those days. Those days of no social media, where memes sway opinion, and more worryingly where trails can be laid and never be back traced. .sad sad world we live in now. .

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I was complaining about the uk being dragged back into the dark old days of union rule. .bit now I hanker for those days. Those days of no social media, where memes sway opinion, and more worryingly where trails can be laid and never be back traced. .sad sad world we live in now. .

I don't know parmnion, how life was in the 70s myself.
My Mum says they were great years even with their problems and then she loved the Bay City Rollers.

However, it does seem to me, learning as much as I can, especially from those from those days.

It seems the answers we need to some of the very imposing questions we are struggling with now, are possibly to be found there.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't know parmnion, how life was in the 70s myself.
My Mum says they were great years even with their problems and then she loved the Bay City Rollers.

However, it does seem to me, learning as much as I can, especially from those from those days.

It seems the answers we need to some of the very imposing questions we are struggling with now, are possibly to be found there.

But to many people have that platform for us to be able to fully rely on any one opinion. .better not knowing imo...take away social.media and we would.be just waiting on brexit....far more united as a nation....and not split like this...which to me is far sadder than our political situation atm..

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by parmnion

But to many people have that platform for us to be able to fully rely on any one opinion. .better not knowing imo...take away social.media and we would.be just waiting on brexit....far more united as a nation....and not split like this...which to me is far sadder than our political situation atm..

Rubbish. Nothing to do with social media.
People are capable of forming opinions based on facts and logic.
I dont need the social media to tell me that turning our backs on our neighbours and biggest trading partners with whom we share a continent, including its security, culture and environment is the stupidest idea ever

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Rubbish. Nothing to do with social media.
People are capable of forming opinions based on facts and logic.
I dont need the social media to tell me that turning our backs on our neighbours and biggest trading partners with whom we share a continent, including its security, culture and environment is the stupidest idea ever

You may not need social media for that....but by the love of God and all that is almighty...you need a platform to air your drivel .you're nothing more than a face or a name...chirping pish......


I will go to my grave thinking that Twosugars.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by parmnion

You may not need social media for that....but by the love of God and all that is almighty...you need a platform to air it.. .your nothing more than a face or a name...chirping pish......


I will go to my grave thinking that Twosugars.

Yeah bc before social media people didnt communicate with one another

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Yeah bc before social media people didnt communicate with one another

Sorry, don't understand what your saying

[arista]

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

Operation Yellowhammer: Government no-deal Brexit documents released

https://news.sky.com/story/operation...eased-11807339

...so long as those in government and who they choose to inform, have time to stock pile their provisions...all the Jacks who are alright, eh...that’s the important thing...

[Ammi]

...I guess that panic buying at its finest is going to be happening at a shop/supermarket near us, soon...

[Ammi]

...the contempt that these elitists are showing for all who voted Brexit as well...why would they care about the people of Northern Ireland when they’re so contemptuous even of their supporters...