[Kizzy]

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I'd rather have IBS

[bitontheslide]

I don't like IDS, but i don't agree with mob rule either.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I don't like IDS, but i don't agree with mob rule either.

Good job it's not anything like that then, just a handful of people expressing how they feel about IDS, mind you that is how it would be reported in some rags, well done for preempting that.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Good job it's not anything like that then, just a handful of people expressing how they feel about IDS, mind you that is how it would be reported in some rags, well done for preempting that.

it was an undemocratic mob

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it was an undemocratic mob

Is is undemocratic to voice your opinion to an elected official?
*clue- It isn't*

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Is is undemocratic to voice your opinion to an elected official?
*clue- It isn't*

It seems it appears to be if they are demonstrating or shouting anything against a Conservative politician Kizzy.

My guess,only a guess mind you, is that if these had maybe been moaning at Corbyn as to say as an example Trident, they would be classed as being intelligent and right.

A good thing I wasn't anywhere near him, I would possibly even have got arrested for what I would say to him for his disgraceful and obscene policies against the sick and disabled which actually are getting worse.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Is is undemocratic to voice your opinion to an elected official?
*clue- It isn't*

It is not right. I remember people on here saying it was fine to hound Nigel Farage and his daughters, something I also did not support

Its not that I am protecting the Tories - again a usual, predictable put down. I just have principles on the correct way to voice discontent - through the ballot box

Its distasteful the way posters behave on here

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Is is undemocratic to voice your opinion to an elected official?
*clue- It isn't*

If I was on the Headrow in Leeds and you were walking towards me, and I decided that I did not like your hair colour or the way you dress, have I a right to convert my dislike into hatred and scream obscenities at you?

More than that, having screamed obscenities at you, have I then a right to try to physically prevent you from going about your LAWFUL business by blocking your path and unlawfully detaining you?

Do not confuse anarchy - in any of its ugly forms - with peaceful protest.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it was an undemocratic mob

Non-violent protest is a key aspect of democracy.

[joeysteele]

Just what he deserves, I wouldn't want to be within sight of him.
It is a disgrace this heartless vile failure that the Conservatives dumped as leader even before he could lead them into a election, has ever been given power over the lives, livelihoods and incomes of the most vulnerable in UK society.

[LeatherTrumpet]

If it can help couples have a baby I cant see why oiks would try and shout at it?


bloody lefties

[LeatherTrumpet]

If it can help couples have a baby I cant see why oiks would try and shout at it?


bloody lefties

[King Gizzard]

Usually I'm not down with this sort of thing but he's a massive **** so meh

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Nathan

Usually I'm not down with this sort of thing but he's a massive **** so meh

Pretty much this

[MTVN]

IDS just chilling in the back seat reading the paper

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

IDS just chilling in the back seat reading the paper

Yes he must get the Work done


I will have to have another word with Dave
a Terrorist can mingle in that group.

In the future
The Road will be cleared fist


One Crazy Lady called IDS a Nazi
she must get back to finish her Education

[Johnnyuk123]

The Tories are still in charge so all is well for the UK recovery from the mess that the labour party left us in.

[Vicky.]

Yup. I'm alright jack. Whats the deaths of a few disabled to anyone eh.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yup. I'm alright jack. Whats the deaths of a few disabled to anyone eh.

They mean nothing at all to IDS or this PM either.

[Kizzy]

This was proven again this week, when it emerged that the Department for Work and Pensions’ fit-to-work assessments actually cost more money than they save. An official report by the government’s own financial watchdog revealed the damning fact that while the DWP is paying Ł1.6 billion for the tests between now and 2020, the system is expected to save the government less than Ł1bn during the same period.'

Just because we have had six years of austerity rhetoric doesn’t mean that we should ever accept the government’s campaign of cuts is about being financially sensible rather than right-wing ideology. Prejudice against the working class is something the Conservatives have long-held; ‘austerity’ is merely being co-opted as the current convenient and socially acceptable veneer through which to administer it.

The government can try as much as it likes to frame the austerity debate as one of prudence, paternalism or public interest but the reality is that the numbers simply do not add up. Austerity in 2015 is not about economics but ideology, and the most vulnerable people in our society will suffer under it for as long as the Conservatives continue to convince us otherwise

'The country is paying Ł600 million to actively hound vulnerable benefits claimants, with no benefit to taxpayers at all.

A critical glance elsewhere within the government’s austerity programme shows similar cracks through which their ideological motivations of rolling back the state and advancing middle class interests burst through, groaning under the strain of feigned sincerity about economic prudence.

It is not about financial prudence following the recession but strategic rolling back of the state and removal of support for vulnerable people, in line with the Conservatives’ ideology.


http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-a6807741.html

[Kizzy]

Wonder if the protesters in Cannock and Staffordshire were inbred too?... Seems inbreds follow IDS everywhere :/

[Tom4784]

I'm guessing some people in this thread would be a lot more sympathetic if the IDS weren't killing people on benefits because who cares about vulnerable people on benefits amirite? They're just parasites at the end of day aren't they so who cares if they're being erroneously taken off benefits they need to live and put in harm's way? They're just dole dossers and they deserve what they get because I pay taxes and that means I can pass judgement on my 'lessers' with a clean conscience.

The protesters didn't pose any kind of physical threat to the officials, the only threat they posed was that they wanted to delay them from their next appointment. These officials deserve to know the negative impact their murderous decisions are having, being called a murderer is a lot more civil than some of the more 'civilised and obviously better people' would have if they lost a loved one to the IDS' awful decisions.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'm guessing some people in this thread would be a lot more sympathetic if the IDS weren't killing people on benefits because who cares about vulnerable people on benefits amirite? They're just parasites at the end of day aren't they so who cares if they're being erroneously taken off benefits they need to live and put in harm's way? They're just dole dossers and they deserve what they get because I pay taxes and that means I can pass judgement on my 'lessers' with a clean conscience.

The protesters didn't pose any kind of physical threat to the officials, the only threat they posed was that they wanted to delay them from their next appointment. These officials deserve to know the negative impact their murderous decisions are having, being called a murderer is a lot more civil than some of the more 'civilised and obviously better people' would have if they lost a loved one to the IDS' awful decisions.

Excellent points all through,sadly lost on this thread.
I agree with every word you say.
I wasn't going to comment again but you are right as to how some see those on benefits and who also ignore the fact that IDS rarely if ever allows himself to be challenged or really take part in an in depth interview.

When people are dismissed and treated as if they are absolutely nothing by anyone so called democratically elected whose real purpose should be to serve, not dictate to an electorate,then frustration and anger will become evident towards such a 100% undeserving individual such as IDS.

I am proud my Cousin took part although it surprised me, however tramping people into the ground they walk on as IDS has done to the sick and disabled,then ignoring even those who work in the care and support of the most vulnerable will inevitably in the end, bring out the worst in people.
Even more sadly and wrong,is the way having power just barely,has brought out the extreme worst of not only IDS but a good number in this rotten govt.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Excellent points all through,sadly lost on this thread.
I agree with every word you say.
I wasn't going to comment again but you are right as to how some see those on benefits and who also ignore the fact that IDS rarely if ever allows himself to be challenged or really take part in an in depth interview.

When people are dismissed and treated as if they are absolutely nothing by anyone so called democratically elected whose real purpose should be to serve, not dictate to an electorate,then frustration and anger will become evident towards such a 100% undeserving individual such as IDS.

I am proud my Cousin took part although it surprised me, however tramping people into the ground they walk on as IDS has done to the sick and disabled,then ignoring even those who work in the care and support of the most vulnerable will inevitably in the end, bring out the worst in people.
Even more sadly and wrong,is the way having power just barely,has brought out the extreme worst of not only IDS but a good number in this rotten govt.

Thanks for staying Joey, you know I'd go crazy without you
I'm proud of your cousin too it's an integral part of living in a democracy for public to voice their feelings, be heard and be responded to.
There seems to be a distinct lack of responses lately to anyone relating to anything. You'll see more than most things snuck in, passed without debate and rushed through.
Hunt threatened yesterday to go 'atomic' on jr doctors, so basically he's suggesting they agree or it's happening regardless... Is this in your opinion democratic or autocratic?