[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

yep, Republic of Ireland over Northern Ireland any time for me as my favourite Ireland honestly

why

[Nicky91]

why not instead of Brexit from EU, a UKxit (breaking up all countries) making Scotland, Wales, England, Northern Ireland independent countries

also justice for the own languages in scotland, northern ireland, wales

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

why not instead of Brexit from EU, a UKxit (breaking up all countries) making Scotland, Wales, England, Northern Ireland independent countries

also justice for the own languages in scotland, northern ireland, wales

Yes, let's go with this. Totally independent countries... that means no other country can rely on any other country for funding. I'd vote for that.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yes, let's go with this. Totally independent countries... that means no other country can rely on any other country for funding. I'd vote for that.

cuz i was thinking like with brexit from EU you'd still have England as the majority party inside UK with the english language and london as capital which is in england so the other countries wales, scotland, northern ireland still won't have much independence

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

cuz i was thinking like with brexit from EU you'd still have England as the majority party inside UK with the english language and london as capital which is in england so the other countries wales, scotland, northern ireland still won't have much independence

England subsidises the other three countries. I'd give them all their independence.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

People don't get "exported" these days Cherie, there's plenty of work here, has been for a longtime. I should know, I actually live here

Why is there a mini Ireland in Australia then

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ramsay

Cherie you no good West Brit, get out of my sight.

I think that is the first time you have ever addressed me what a charmer you are

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

People are doing just fine over here, tyvm, jesus, how long has it actually been since you were in Ireland, how ****ing rude

Its not rude, its facts, was Southern Ireland not bailed out in 2013, a mere 5 years ago? a yes or no will be fine

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Whey is there a mini Ireland in Australia then

Don't be silly there couldn't possibly be a mini Ireland in Australia, after all immigrants don't sit under their Irish flags, singing songs about British tyranny and wait for the day they can return in box.

Or people may just like travelling and working abroad as an experience. I did that when i was younger, I didn't have to but I wanted to see the world a bit

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Its not rude, its facts, was Southern Ireland not bailed out in 2013, a mere 5 years ago? a yes or no will be fine

Along with other countries sure, we're still a country and still thriving, a fantastic recovery we made

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Why is there a mini Ireland in Australia then

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austra...land_relations

bit of information on the relations between Australia and Ireland

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Its not rude, its facts, was Southern Ireland not bailed out in 2013, a mere 5 years ago? a yes or no will be fine

Also, It's called the Republic of Ireland not "Southern Ireland" The most Northern part of Ireland is in the Republic

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Along with other countries sure, we're still a country and still thriving, a fantastic recovery we made

Not saying you are not thriving now, but it doesn't change the fact that the government ****ed up and it had to be bailed out

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Also, It's called the Republic of Ireland not "Southern Ireland" The most Northern part of Ireland is in the Republic

Bloody hell that's me told, that is what I have to say in the Post Office when I am sending cards

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Not saying you are not thriving now, but it doesn't change the fact that the government ****ed up and it had to be bailed out

There was a world wide recession Cherie, we weren't the only ones and it doesn't make your point valid, we have been doing well before and since then.

Originally Posted by Cherie

Bloody hell that's me told, that is what I have to say in the Post Office when I am sending cards

You should correct them then

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

There was a world wide recession Cherie, we weren't the only ones and it doesn't make your point valid, we have been doing well before and since then.



You should correct them then

It does make my point valid because plenty other smaller nations did not need bailouts ...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It does make my point valid because plenty other smaller nations did not need bailouts ...

And some larger countries did, so what? We're paying back everything we owe and then some. You'd swear no other country in the world ever borrowed money..........

[The Slim Reaper]

[lime]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The UK has done more for me than Ireland ever did, all the Irish government in the main is export its citizens

Wow cherie what type of madness is this..I migrated to Ireland and after the Polish ...the English are the highest number of migrants to Ireland..The Uk may ...and i have no reason to doubt you..have done more for you you and your family.

Ireland has done more for me and mine.

You are a migrant the same as me and many other FM's are decented from...Look around you Cherie whilst living in the UK...I'm sure you see many from different countries and continents...why insult Ireland and say thy "export" It's citizens?.If you have any remaining family here in Ireland you will know that they don't export their young...Jeez Cherie I can't believe that you haven't seen the heartbreack here in Ireland over family members having to leave...To describe as export ffs you would swear you were you talking about a cattle marcket.

"Export it's citizens"....very insulting.


I'm sure you don't mean it but t me it imply's that the Irish breed and when old enough ..they export...hope I'm wrong

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by lime

Wow cherie what type of madness is this..I migrated to Ireland and after the Polish ...the English are the highest number of migrants to Ireland..The Uk may ...and i have no reason to doubt you..have done more for you you and your family.

Ireland has done more for me and mine.

You are a migrant the same as me and many other FM's are decented from...Look around you Cherie whilst living in the UK...I'm sure you see many from different countries and continents...why insult Ireland and say thy "export" It's citizens?.If you have any remaining family here in Ireland you will know that they don't export their young...Jeez Cherie I can't believe that you haven't seen the heartbreack here in Ireland over family members having to leave...To describe as export ffs you would swear you were you talking about a cattle marcket.

"Export it's citizens"....very insulting.


I'm sure you don't mean it but t me it imply's that the Irish breed and when old enough ..they export...hope I'm wrong

Lime, you only have to look at the long history of Irish immigration to see where I am coming from, successive Irish government have let young Irish people down for years, yes it might be all fine and dandy now but you don't have to look very far back in history to see a different story. I am sorry if you took offence at the word export but that is exactly what happened back for decades, you were educated in Ireland but there no jobs so you had to leave, if you look at the point I was making it was in response to Niamh holding up Ireland as an example of how Scotland would thrive on its own, I was pointing out that while that might the case now, it doesn't take much to destablise an economy, my point being that you cannot hold up Ireland as a model for a glowing economy that others should aspire to. I never mentioned anything about breeding you made that up in your own head

[joeysteele]

I think another referendum is the only way forward if this daft deluded PMs deal is thrown out by Parliament.

Unless the DUP get really furious with the Cons. they won't help a general election come about.

Although the thought of another referendum disappoints me, it does seem at present, the only way to try to resolve this mess.
As we have a PM who hasn't the ability to reach out and work with Parliament at all.

On the Irish issue.
All my family on my Mum's side were and are Irish.
My Mum now lives in the Republic of Ireland, both my Mum does and my Grandparents when they were alive, all called Ireland, the Republic of Ireland.

Even as to football, it is the Republic of Ireland football team not Southern Ireland one.
So Niamh is dead right totally as to that.

I think too the Republic of Ireland is a far more forward looking and thinking Nation than England for sure.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I think another referendum is the only way forward if this daft deluded PMs deal is thrown out by Parliament.

Unless the DUP get really furious with the Cons. they won't help a general election come about.

Although the thought of another referendum disappoints me, it does seem at present, the only way to try to resolve this mess.
As we have a PM who hasn't the ability to reach out and work with Parliament at all.

On the Irish issue.
All my family on my Mum's side were and are Irish.
My Mum now lives in the Republic of Ireland, both my Mum does and my Grandparents when they were alive, all called Ireland, the Republic of Ireland.

Even as to football, it is the Republic of Ireland football team not Southern Ireland one.
So Niamh is dead right totally as to that.

I think too the Republic of Ireland is a far more forward looking and thinking Nation than England for sure.

People do still refer to the North and the South of Ireland, it's not an obsolete term

[lime]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Lime, you only have to look at the long history of Irish immigration to see where I am coming from, successive Irish government have let young Irish people down for years, yes it might be all fine and dandy now but you don't have to look very far back in history to see a different story. I am sorry if you took offence at the word export but that is exactly what happened back for decades, you were educated in Ireland but there no jobs so you had to leave, if you look at the point I was making it was in response to Niamh holding up Ireland as an example of how Scotland would thrive on its own, I was pointing out that while that might the case now, it doesn't take much to destablise an economy, my point being that you cannot hold up Ireland as a model for a glowing economy that others should aspire to. I never mentioned anything about breeding you made that up in your own head

Oh i see where you are coming from Cherie..and it is a British attidue to Ireland..I am happy for you as an Irish person ...you feel more British.


Sure why would I complain when I feel more Irish than South African.


I do take offence of you talking about the Irish "exportiong" their citizens ..But sure that's grand as long as the British do the same ..but they are called ex pats.


i do feel i have to ask ...Do you know anything about you own history?

Far from popular believe ...the Irish goverment are standing strong for Ireland...A steady ship is needed to ride these waves.


Ireland is not a utophia ..but it is grown up enough to know to put country first...
Wish your land of paradise would do the same

[The Slim Reaper]

I heard it was Cherie who banished all the snakes.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I heard it was Cherie who banished all the snakes.

I'm pretty sure that was Dezzy...