[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Yes I agree on that and that the hijacking is ultimately on both sides as well. I do see & accept that the most recent, and rather worrying, development is that religious fundamentalists have very much reared their heads in the debate and of course, when it comes down to it, the last thing that group is interested in is women's rights (or anyone elses).

But just as disingenuous individuals use of Trans Rights dogma as protection from scrutiny doesn't mean that all trans people are dangerous, the presence of the hard right and religious groups hopping onto the "other side" doesn't mean that there aren't people with real, valid and reasonable safeguarding concerns.

Of course there are hijackers on both sides but the only one destined for a womens prison was Isla Bryson

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Yeah, the man that says girls should be having babies below the age of consent because that’s when they’re the most verile, definitely wants to protect kids

What?!??

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Of course there are hijackers on both sides but the only one destined for a womens prison was Isla Bryson

yep.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Of course there are hijackers on both sides but the only one destined for a womens prison was Isla Bryson

It isn't just Isla Bryson either , there's been other incidents of men pretending to be women as they think they can get away with it. As they get closer to their victims. Laws needs to be brought in to make it harder for predators to sneak into womens spaces.

This is why Scotland will now end up with a stricter political leader ,with views not everyone will agree. But if Forbes sticks to important social issues like this and education etc ,then she might actually be better than Sturgeon. But who knows.

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Of course there are hijackers on both sides but the only one destined for a womens prison was Isla Bryson

I would genuinely be remiss if I didn't caution against underestimating how awful some of the individuals looking to use/abuse the current situation from the other angle are though. I do believe that the LGBTQ community has unfortunately been asleep at the wheel when it comes to disingenuous individuals essentially using them to their own ends - but it would be very ironic to then not acknowledge that there are some actual bigots and people with genuinely dangerous views and sleepwalk into something even more sinister.

I'm always mindful that the "backlash to the backlash" and most "tribal social stuff" is frequently used as a distraction from other things.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

What?!??

Yeah, that’s the type of people being allowed to take over and become the face of the anti-trans movement, because they say things that people want to hear on the surface, but they’ve got their own ulterior motives based in fundamentalism and bigotry

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Yeah, that’s the type of people being allowed to take over and become the face of the anti-trans movement, because they say things that people want to hear on the surface, but they’ve got their own ulterior motives based in fundamentalism and bigotry

They can become the face of the "anti-trans" movement, that doesn't represent me as I'm only interested in the Pro-Women & Children "movement" anyway, like I always have been, long before trans became part of that debate.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Yeah, that’s the type of people being allowed to take over and become the face of the anti-trans movement, because they say things that people want to hear on the surface, but they’ve got their own ulterior motives based in fundamentalism and bigotry

Well the only Matt Walsh videos I've seen are to do with de transitioners and Dylan Mulvany .

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I notice there are never conversations about punishing other parts of society when people do dodgy things, teachers sleep with a student? Never a conversation about banning women from teaching to help protect children from it ever happening again, no conversation about restricting straight men’s rights, from doing things whenever one of them attacks or abuses someone, societal punishment is always aimed at the already targeted groups because they’re the easiest targets to strike fear into the ‘normal’ peoples heads, it’s so bloody transparent and frankly, as a gay man, terrifying to see the road society is going down, we’ll be back under section 28 before long, we’ll be banned from doing certain jobs and the people who are happy for it to be currently the aim to happen to trans people, will pretend to be sympathetic while they played a massive part in allowing the advancement of these wild theories

There was a case in the USA recently where this 15 year old lad slept with his very hot 26 year old female Biology teacher. The sad thing is that shortly after the event the poor lad died.

He was high-five'd to death

[LeatherTrumpet]

Youtube video

[Cherie]

Childen were encouraged to shout out slang words for genetalia which were written on the white board including the c...word

This was in a science class....nothing to do with the drag queen...

This seems a very strange school

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Childen were encouraged to shout out slang words for genetalia which were written on the white board including the c...word

This was in a science class....nothing to do with the drag queen...

This seems a very strange school

A Father of a pupil from that class is currently on with Nick. The school is now carrying out a second "enquiry" about this and the head has already said sorry to this family.

He said the 11 year olds come back into the family home and tell their 5,6,7 year old siblings

He is utterly disgusted and rightly so

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

A Father of a pupil from that class is currently on with Nick. The school is now carrying out a second "enquiry" about this and the head has already said sorry to this family.

He said the 11 year olds come back into the family home and tell their 5,6,7 year old siblings

He is utterly disgusted and rightly so

Yeah listening to that ...some parents have been called bigots for disagreeing

[bitontheslide]

the kids should have asked the guy to list the 73 genders

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the kids should have asked the guy to list the 73 genders

Yeah

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Childen were encouraged to shout out slang words for genetalia which were written on the white board including the c...word

"Clunge"

[GoldHeart]

That school sounds unhinged,they definitely need investigating by Ofsted.

[LeatherTrumpet]

[arista]

Yes LT


USA is far worse

[Cherie]

Nothing to see here, its only a minority....sucks for the kids but hey as long as the adults are okay thats fine and dandy

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes LT


USA is far worse

and the agenda is clear

[Soldier Boy]

The argument will be that "you can't use a few examples to say that all trans people are predators" and it's obviously true that the majority are not, however at this point, clearly - VERY CLEARLY - LGBTQ (and especially Q) is being used as a Trojan Horse by some very dangerous and troubled individuals to gain access to vulnerable people and groups. #

This should be a matter of serious concern to the entire LGBT community but there's seemingly a culture of denial/refusal to admit that there's any issue. I do actually understand the reasons, but at some point they're going to have to realise that, to a casual observer, this starts to look like complicity, and not just in the eyes of "bigots and -phobes".

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

The argument will be that "you can't use a few examples to say that all trans people are predators" and it's obviously true that the majority are not, however at this point, clearly - VERY CLEARLY - LGBTQ (and especially Q) is being used as a Trojan Horse by some very dangerous and troubled individuals to gain access to vulnerable people and groups. #

This should be a matter of serious concern to the entire LGBT community but there's seemingly a culture of denial/refusal to admit that there's any issue. I do actually understand the reasons, but at some point they're going to have to realise that, to a casual observer, this starts to look like complicity, and not just in the eyes of "bigots and -phobes".

The liberal LGBT folk will always turn a blind eye and downplay it ,
and get defensive like they're personally being attacked in their home.

From what I've seen it's only the more right leaning / conservative minded ones who actually speak out against it ...I keep hoping more of them on a whole speak out , because regardless of your politics you should be seeing this as wrong and innapropriate .