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Old 17-05-2019, 11:01 AM   #5326
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Heard on the radio there that there a petition by fans to get s8 refilmed lol
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Old 17-05-2019, 11:02 AM   #5327
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Heard on the radio there that there a petition by fans to get s8 refilmed lol
It has over 3/4 million signatures
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Old 17-05-2019, 11:03 AM   #5328
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It has over 3/4 million signatures
Petitions never seem to work for that kinda stuff though
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Old 17-05-2019, 11:18 AM   #5329
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I mean as awful as this episode is, I just can't say it isn't entertaining. When Dany is trying to kiss Jon and he's like "N... no... hmm... I don't know... maybe? Err... m... MAYBE? ... Ewwwww nah I just can't, this is gross Aunty Dany "

[edit] I'm also reading this scene differently this time; I don't really buy the "woman scorned" argument now, I think what they're trying to get at in this scene, is that Dany has realised that the people will never let her "rule with love" on her own and she's actually trying to see if there's still a chance for her and Jon to be together, as they could rule together and have the love of the people (she could use his popularity to make herself loved, basically) and when it becomes clear that it's just not a possibility any more, she resigns herself to the "path of fear".

With that in mind... thinking about the surrender... it's not enough for Daenerys to be able to take the throne through fear. By allowing the surrender with very little bloodshed, the people would still be likely to rally behind Jon Snow when they find out about his claim to the throne, and thus if she wants the throne she HAS to burn the city. She has to make people utterly terrified. And then the scene where the bells ring and Dany looks tearful and full of rage can be interpreted not as her "snapping" and deciding that she just wants to burn everyone, but steeling herself to doing it even though she DOESN'T want to kill innocents. She's closing herself off to it, because she believes so strongly that she has to take the throne, that it's become a necessary evil (in her mind)... and she's actually pained by every minute of it?

I reckon if I'm right, the problem with the show vs the books (as well as it being rushed) is the lack of internal monologue. Her thought process can be explained in book form... it can't on screen.
The only problem there is that there's probably no KL inhabitants left to rule after her rampage

But yes your version would make more sense but they needed to be more clear on her thought process. I suppose they could still do that in the final episode
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Old 17-05-2019, 11:22 AM   #5330
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Another thing that doesn't make sense is that although people will now know he's a Targaryen, they DON'T know that he's "died and come back" which is the loophole that got him out of the Night's Watch... as far as everyone knows, Jon is still a member of the watch, and joining the watch involves giving up any claim to hereditary rule. The only reason he could leave, is that the oath said "until death" and he died.

But if he really doesn't want to be king he can just say "I swore an oath to the Night's Watch so..."
Yeah but there is no wall or night watch anymore
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Old 17-05-2019, 11:30 AM   #5331
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Pointless petition. As if they will actually redo the season ffs. Even most of the Actors would tell them to **** Off.
I think the intent isn't to get the series remade, it's to shame the writers more than anything. If enough people sign it, it could give Disney pause when it comes to handing over the next Star Wars trilogy to them and it could lead to less opportunities for them in future.

Season 8 won't be remade but a petition like this could send a message to studios in future when they consider hiring those hacks.
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Old 17-05-2019, 02:09 PM   #5332
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yay ruining careers
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Old 17-05-2019, 02:19 PM   #5333
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i think 1 of the reasons people are being critical, and overly critical is because the show is coming to an end and its natures way of getting over it finishing. Also, people became too invested in particular characters when it should just be considered a game (the clue is in the name)
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Old 17-05-2019, 02:38 PM   #5334
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How is it ruining careers when those people shouldnít be in that position anyway, itís people unqualified for a job having it
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How is it ruining careers when those people shouldnít be in that position anyway, itís people unqualified for a job having it
bc most people are actually enjoying the show it's just the vocal and entitled minority online that try to make it look otherwise. What percentage is a few million out of the expected worldwide audience?
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It’s not an entitled minority when it’s being dragged by fans AND critics alike
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Poor Kit. His character has been made irrelevant. At least Emilia will probably get the Emmy nomination to show for it.
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I wonder what characters will feature, besides the obvious such as; Jon, Dany, Sansa, Arya, Tyrion, Grey Worm
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Surely Brienne. Her final scene being her crying over Jaime leaving would be appalling
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Surely Brienne. Her final scene being her crying over Jaime leaving would be appalling
I'm expecting it tbh, they turned Daenerys into the Mad Queen in the space of two episodes for the sake of Jon Snow so they've got form for sacrificing strong female characters for the betterment of male characters.
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I'm expecting it tbh, they turned Daenerys into the Mad Queen in the space of two episodes for the sake of Jon Snow so they've got form for sacrificing strong female characters for the betterment of male characters.
They’ve made Jon a side character all season basically behind Dany and Arya. Even Sansa and Brienne have been more meaningful. The least they could do is give him the Dany kill/Throne.
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