[Stu]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

That's all very true but "ideally" I think having both a male & a female parent is better. I accept that there are plenty of bad hetrosexual parents and plenty of very good same sex parents but If I had a choice of putting a child into a good hetro couple family or a good same sex couple family, I would choose the former as I believe children benefit more from having both male & female inputs and role models.

Again for me I think it just goes in a circle right back to how good a set of parents they are. I don't believe by default that a heterosexual couple is automatically 'better'. Same goes for homosexual couples, to be fair.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Stu

Again for me I think it just goes in a circle right back to how good a set of parents they are. I don't believe by default that a heterosexual couple is automatically 'better'. Same goes for homosexual couples, to be fair.

No, you're right of course not, I'm talking purely on If it was decision between 2 sets of parents who were equally as good as eachother than I would pick the mother & father option. Of course, in reality, there is no way of telling who is going to be the better parents just by interviewing them!

And back to what I said originally, my son has a great relationship with his dad and I would hate If he didn't have a father in his life, of course just cos you do have a father in your life doesn't automatically mean he'll teach you great things and you'll have a great relationship with him either.

[setanta]

Give them a chance for fecks sake. It's highly doubtful that they'll balls it up as often as heterosexual relationships have done and continue to do.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by wannashag

i have no problem, as long as these children are brought up with love, discipline and respect for others.

do you mean in the world that the Waltons live in?

[NettoSuperstar!]

I see no reason why they shouldnt

[LeatherTrumpet]

what is the success rate of male male civil partnerships?


and how monogamous are they?

[NettoSuperstar!]

"Grew said that the low rate so far of gay divorce - known as 'dissolution' of a civil partnership - and the long time spent together by many couples who form one, 'shows that gay people are treating them with due solemnity and respect. Generally, they take them more seriously than many people who get married. The people who go for it are older, have been together longer and have more committed relationships. That's why we won't see the 40 per cent or 50 per cent divorce rates we see in heterosexual marriages,' he said."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/fe...ayrights.world

[LeatherTrumpet]

The numbers are so small as to negate much debate it seems.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The numbers are so small as to negate much debate it seems.

lol rite o

[setanta]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

"Grew said that the low rate so far of gay divorce - known as 'dissolution' of a civil partnership - and the long time spent together by many couples who form one, 'shows that gay people are treating them with due solemnity and respect. Generally, they take them more seriously than many people who get married. The people who go for it are older, have been together longer and have more committed relationships. That's why we won't see the 40 per cent or 50 per cent divorce rates we see in heterosexual marriages,' he said."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/fe...ayrights.world

Thanks Netto. Like I said, give them a go at it.... I doubt they'll f it up as often as male/female relationships do with their children.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

"Grew said that the low rate so far of gay divorce - known as 'dissolution' of a civil partnership - and the long time spent together by many couples who form one, 'shows that gay people are treating them with due solemnity and respect. Generally, they take them more seriously than many people who get married. The people who go for it are older, have been together longer and have more committed relationships. That's why we won't see the 40 per cent or 50 per cent divorce rates we see in heterosexual marriages,' he said."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/fe...ayrights.world

I don't know about that, I mean people are people at the end of the day, whether you're gay or straight If you're the type of person to cheat or do whatever thing that breaks up a marriage, Thats down to somebodies personality not their sexual orientation surely?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by setanta

Thanks Netto. Like I said, give them a go at it.... I doubt they'll f it up as often as male/female relationships do with their children.

but most do not, like all of us on here

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

I don't know about that, I mean people are people at the end of the day, whether you're gay or straight If you're the type of person to cheat or do whatever thing that breaks up a marriage, Thats down to somebodies personality not their sexual orientation surely?

Im just printing the statistics

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

Im just printing the statistics

It was a prediction though, he said "why we won't see" . Marriage is only a new thing for Gay couples so It's not a fair comparison imo

Like I said, people are people, I think it's ridiculous to say Gay people are more commited in relationships, everyone is an individual so you can't just generalise like that

[setanta]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

but most do not, like all of us on here

Doubt it. I'm sure that most on here have been affected by marital breakdowns in one way or another.

[LeatherTrumpet]

I would not like to be the kid at school with 2 dads that is for sure.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

It was a prediction though, he said "why we won't see" . Marriage is only a new thing for Gay couples so It's not a fair comparison imo

Like I said, people are people, I think it's ridiculous to say Gay people are more commited in relationships, everyone is an individual so you can't just generalise like that

that bit at the end was yeh but the number of gay divorces is something like 1% at the moment compared to 40/50 % hetero but its early days...personally I dont see their being much difference between them in the future, but maybe we will see that same sex couples have more understanding of each other and that helps them stay together who knows

[30stone]

Originally Posted by setanta

I think it could be argued that a more loving enviroment might stem from same sex partnerships.

What?



and what about the riducule?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by setanta

Doubt it. I'm sure that most on here have been affected by marital breakdowns in one way or another.

mental, I would give you

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by 30stone

What?



and what about the riducule?

i think the poster is referring to happy land where the liberals run free and you get lager out of the cold tap.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by setanta

Doubt it. I'm sure that most on here have been affected by marital breakdowns in one way or another.

Yes, you're right but at the same time, I don't think it's fair to suggest that same sex couples would be any different, relationships are relationships after all

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by 30stone

What?



and what about the riducule?

People get ridiculed for all sorts of reasons, wearing glasses, ginger hair etc...its not right for people to have to change because of bullies. Bullying needs to be tackled by society...

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

People get ridiculed for all sorts of reasons, wearing glasses, ginger hair etc...its not right for people to have to change because of bullies. Bullying needs to be tackled by society...

again in "happyland"

[30stone]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

People get ridiculed for all sorts of reasons, wearing glasses, ginger hair etc...its not right for people to have to change because of bullies. Bullying needs to be tackled by society...

Bullying wont stop, EVER.

people get picked on every day at school and it doesnt stop until they move school sometimes.. it happens again.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

again in "happyland"

Right so what your saying is a ginger haired boy should dye his hair incase of ridicule? Or should we as a society say ridicule is wrong? We've come along way because people have fought prejudice Trumpet dude, so dont give me "its the way it is bollox"! If we all had that attitude we'd still be sat round the fire in our caves mate!