[arista]

Doing it alone: The proportion of single mothers
has increased from 10 per cent to 25 in the past 20 years.



Going solo: Charlie Murray is raising her two-year-old twins alone
after falling pregnant when she was 17


Research shows that children of single parents
are more likely to do badly at school and get into trouble

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...#ixzz0gkBbA37G




What a Mess the UK is in
under New Labour.

[Dr.Gonzo]

I'm only responsible for half of those statistics! Seriously, it is a massive problem. A lot of my girlfriends (see: friends who are girls) are single mothers, some do a good job... some don't.

So girls, learn your lesson. If a guy comes up to you in a bar/pub and asks if you fancy going halves on a bastard, you should most definately say 'no'.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dr.Gonzo

I'm only responsible for half of those statistics! Seriously, it is a massive problem. A lot of my girlfriends (see: friends who are girls) are single mothers, some do a good job... some don't.

So girls, learn your lesson. If a guy comes up to you in a bar/pub and asks if you fancy going halves on a bastard, you should most definately say 'no'.

It is to late the Genie is out Of The Bottle.

[Dr.Gonzo]

Lovely terminology, my friend. I like.

[LeatherTrumpet]

http://www.christian.org.uk/news/tim...en-sex-crisis/

Pandering to the ‘sexual rights’ of children to combat teen pregnancies didn’t work in the past and won’t work in the future, according to a national newspaper columnist and a University professor.

Their comments follow figures which show the Government’s Ł280 million Teenage Pregnancy Strategy is set to fall desperately short of its target to cut rates in half by 2010.

Brenda Almond, Emeritus Professor of Moral and Social Philosophy at the University of Hull, highlights family breakdown as a key factor in the rise of teen pregnancies.

The Daily Mail’s Jan Moir says children should be told that any early sex is “just plain wrong”.

Prof Almond, writing in the Daily Mail, says the idea of young people’s ‘sexual rights’ could be “the new secular religion of our times”.

She criticises the Government for carrying on with the same policies to tackle teen pregnancy, saying, “instead of accepting its mistake and trying a different approach, the Government continues to cling to its discredited strategy of dishing out sex advice, pills and condoms.

“Albert Einstein once said that the definition of insanity was ‘doing the same thing, over and over again, and expecting different results’”.

She also raises concerns over the Government’s plans to introduce Sex and Relationships Education as part of the National Curriculum.

She asserts that the high levels of teenage pregnancy are actually caused by “deep-rooted social issues”, including family breakdown.

“Ironically, this collapse of traditional family life has been fuelled by deliberate Government policies, such as the end of tax relief for married couples and the introduction of financial incentives in the welfare system for lone parents.

“For make no mistake: despite what the Government might think, being brought up in a stable, domestic environment is by far the best way a child can learn about the importance of fidelity, restraint and personal responsibility”, she writes.

Prof Almond then exposes the fallacy that the Netherlands has low teenage pregnancy rates because of its explicit approach to sex education.

She says it is actually because Holland supports stable family life and does not ‘celebrate’ having children outside of marriage.

The Professor also points out that divorce rates are much lower in Holland and the Dutch benefits system, “which is generous in other respects, does not reward teenage mothers with large handouts and accommodation”.

Writing in the Daily Mail today columnist Jan Moir also expresses dismay at the failure of the Government’s Teenage Pregnancy Strategy.

She comments: “Clearly, at no point did anyone say: ‘Look, young lady, just don’t have sex. It is not appropriate. At your age, it will have awful repercussions and it may wreck your life.’”

The emphasis instead has been, she says, on telling teenagers they can do whatever they want, with taxpayers left to “take care of the inevitable fallout”.

She says contraception has been liberally dished out “like lollipops to schoolchildren both under and over the age of consent”.

Yet, the columnist adds, it hasn’t worked.

“By dint of tacit approval, it seems to have given young people the go-ahead to have sex.

“And the controversial expansion of confidential contraceptive services for girls under the age of 16 – children, I would call them – has not helped, either.”

The Government’s Teenage Pregnancy Strategy aimed to cut the teenage pregnancy rate by 50 per cent in the years between 1998 and 2010.

But the latest figures show only a 13.3 per cent decline over the ten years from 1998 to 2008 despite expenditure of Ł280 million.

And the real number of teenage conceptions may be masked by the easy availability of the morning-after pill.

Now the Government has promised a ‘new’ plan, Teenage Pregnancy Strategy: Beyond 2010, which involves piloting one-on-one sexual health and contraception consultations.

[Dr.Gonzo]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

http://www.christian.org.uk/news/tim...en-sex-crisis/

Pandering to the ‘sexual rights’ of children to combat teen pregnancies didn’t work in the past and won’t work in the future, according to a national newspaper columnist and a University professor.

Their comments follow figures which show the Government’s Ł280 million Teenage Pregnancy Strategy is set to fall desperately short of its target to cut rates in half by 2010.

Brenda Almond, Emeritus Professor of Moral and Social Philosophy at the University of Hull, highlights family breakdown as a key factor in the rise of teen pregnancies.

The Daily Mail’s Jan Moir says children should be told that any early sex is “just plain wrong”.

Prof Almond, writing in the Daily Mail, says the idea of young people’s ‘sexual rights’ could be “the new secular religion of our times”.

She criticises the Government for carrying on with the same policies to tackle teen pregnancy, saying, “instead of accepting its mistake and trying a different approach, the Government continues to cling to its discredited strategy of dishing out sex advice, pills and condoms.

“Albert Einstein once said that the definition of insanity was ‘doing the same thing, over and over again, and expecting different results’”.

She also raises concerns over the Government’s plans to introduce Sex and Relationships Education as part of the National Curriculum.

She asserts that the high levels of teenage pregnancy are actually caused by “deep-rooted social issues”, including family breakdown.

“Ironically, this collapse of traditional family life has been fuelled by deliberate Government policies, such as the end of tax relief for married couples and the introduction of financial incentives in the welfare system for lone parents.

“For make no mistake: despite what the Government might think, being brought up in a stable, domestic environment is by far the best way a child can learn about the importance of fidelity, restraint and personal responsibility”, she writes.

Prof Almond then exposes the fallacy that the Netherlands has low teenage pregnancy rates because of its explicit approach to sex education.

She says it is actually because Holland supports stable family life and does not ‘celebrate’ having children outside of marriage.

The Professor also points out that divorce rates are much lower in Holland and the Dutch benefits system, “which is generous in other respects, does not reward teenage mothers with large handouts and accommodation”.

Writing in the Daily Mail today columnist Jan Moir also expresses dismay at the failure of the Government’s Teenage Pregnancy Strategy.

She comments: “Clearly, at no point did anyone say: ‘Look, young lady, just don’t have sex. It is not appropriate. At your age, it will have awful repercussions and it may wreck your life.’”

The emphasis instead has been, she says, on telling teenagers they can do whatever they want, with taxpayers left to “take care of the inevitable fallout”.

She says contraception has been liberally dished out “like lollipops to schoolchildren both under and over the age of consent”.

Yet, the columnist adds, it hasn’t worked.

“By dint of tacit approval, it seems to have given young people the go-ahead to have sex.

“And the controversial expansion of confidential contraceptive services for girls under the age of 16 – children, I would call them – has not helped, either.”

The Government’s Teenage Pregnancy Strategy aimed to cut the teenage pregnancy rate by 50 per cent in the years between 1998 and 2010.

But the latest figures show only a 13.3 per cent decline over the ten years from 1998 to 2008 despite expenditure of Ł280 million.

And the real number of teenage conceptions may be masked by the easy availability of the morning-after pill.

Now the Government has promised a ‘new’ plan, Teenage Pregnancy Strategy: Beyond 2010, which involves piloting one-on-one sexual health and contraception consultations.

[andyman]

Arista, are the Conservatives against single mothers? .. Valid reason to ask seeing that you have made it political and hate New Labour.

[arista]

No One is Against them
it that they are Stuck in a Rut
under No Good New Labour.


It is pointing out the mess under this current power.


It is Time For Change.

[andyman]

What would the change bring? What is the policy for such change?
The Conservatives can't wave a magic wand.. Plus problems with money, health and crime will be around whoever is in power.. Unless the Daily Mail says so and Fox News win the war on all terror.

[arista]

Originally Posted by andyman

What would the change bring? What is the policy for such change?
The Conservatives can't wave a magic wand.. Plus problems with money, health and crime will be around whoever is in power.. Unless the Daily Mail says so and Fox News win the war on all terror.

Correct whoever is in Power it will be Very Hard.
but this nation has had enough
One Eyed Scottish Brown.

[Tom]

Rising teenage pregnancy is an issue due to a) there being more teenagers today and b) the media promoting sexuality so much which never used to happen.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Children must be told NO SEX until you are 18

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Children must be told NO SEX until you are 18

Yeah like that would work with rebellious teenagers knowing that the legal age for consent is 16. If you raised the age of consent again it wouldnt really have any effect. It doesnt stop them mating now.

Enforced chemical contraception perhaps Leather?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Yeah like that would work with rebellious teenagers knowing that the legal age for consent is 16. If you raised the age of consent again it wouldnt really have any effect. It doesnt stop them mating now.

Enforced chemical contraception perhaps Leather?

We are afraid to say no. No sex should be the message and combined with a ban on music videos that promote sex that would be a start.

Google should also be forced to make all searches safe and if you want it off you have to register.

Abortions should be for medical reasons only.

[Tom]

Under 16s are going to have sex if they want to and the more you tell them not to the more they will do it. Age limits on contraception won't work, it will just make them have it unprotected

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Tom

Under 16s are going to have sex if they want to and the more you tell them not to the more they will do it. Age limits on contraception won't work, it will just make them have it unprotected

no

good parenting stops that.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

We are afraid to say no. No sex should be the message and combined with a ban on music videos that promote sex that would be a start.

Google should also be forced to make all searches safe and if you want it off you have to register.

Abortions should be for medical reasons only.

How would you enforce a ban on music videos? kids are quite clever at getting round internet restrictions and limitations, so a ban would have to be worldwide.

Restrictions on abortions for medical reasons would have two effects; backstreet abortions by non medical people, the line where the decision is taken for medical reasons would blur and get extended very quickly.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Shasown

How would you enforce a ban on music videos? kids are quite clever at getting round internet restrictions and limitations, so a ban would have to be worldwide.

Restrictions on abortions for medical reasons would have two effects; backstreet abortions by non medical people, the line where the decision is taken for medical reasons would blur and get extended very quickly.

back street abortions are illegal, you cannot legislate negatively like that.

You order the main digital tv suppliers to stop showing music video tv. if they cant show it they makers will stop making it.

[Sophii3x]

My sister's a single mum, she had her first when she was 17 and her second when she was 19 (20 now). I think she's a good mum, she's raising them well and she gets a lot of support/help too from my parents, family and her friends.

Telling teens to stop having sex isn't going to work.. better sex education is needed really.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Sophii3x

My sister's a single mum, she had her first when she was 17 and her second when she was 19 (20 now). I think she's a good mum, she's raising them well and she gets a lot of support/help too from my parents, family and her friends.

Telling teens to stop having sex isn't going to work.. better sex education is needed really.

No

if you tell them no and stop giving them the opportunity to copulate the numbers will go down. education comes from good parents not from governments.

Your sister should be experiencing life at that age not bringing up children with no father figure.

[Harry!]

Sex education from the age of 5. Even if it it is just watershed terms.

[InOne]

Well alcohol is easily available, kids seem to want kids, so mix teens who can't handle their drink and naive lust, that is what you're going to get.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Children must be told NO SEX until you are 18

You've forgotten what it's like to be a teenager it seems The current tactic works well enough, the problem like Tom has stated lies elsewhere.

Forewarned is forearmed.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No

if you tell them no and stop giving them the opportunity to copulate the numbers will go down. education comes from good parents not from governments.

Your sister should be experiencing life at that age not bringing up children with no father figure.

So keep all teenagers under lock and key? That wouldn't work any better since you'd get more uninformed teenagers shagging each other out of rebellion.

To Arista, the conservatives wouldn't do Single mothers any more favours then Labour, look at their history.

[Enid]

Originally Posted by Sophii3x

My sister's a single mum, she had her first when she was 17 and her second when she was 19 (20 now). I think she's a good mum, she's raising them well and she gets a lot of support/help too from my parents, family and her friends.

Telling teens to stop having sex isn't going to work.. better sex education is needed really.

I bet most of that support was/is financial too...