[arista]

Who the Hell do they think they are,
They break all the Rules and get the Yanks backing them.

"At least 10 pro-Palestinian activists were killed and dozens
injured in a battle at sea with Israeli naval commandos today,
sparking an international diplomatic crisis and the prospect
of angry demonstrations across Israel, the Palestinian territories, Turkey and beyond."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...-flotilla-gaza



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...ship-Gaza.html


Sign Of The Times.

[Harry!]

Oh dear not looking good over there at the moment.

[ILoveTRW]

Israel ftw

[InOne]

They're both as bad as eachother.

[arista]

Originally Posted by InOne

They're both as bad as eachother.

Turkey has Nothing to do with this.

[LeatherTrumpet]

is this about Eurovision?

[Shaun]

gaaah. If Palestine/Lebanon/another muslim nation had done this to Israel the west would have been up in arms...

I mean sure, Israel's under fire from a lot of religious nutters (see: Ahmedinejad) but they're really about as innocent as a fox in a coop.

[Spike]

I dislike Israel, the only reason countries hold back is because The USA back Israel.

[InOne]

So much hate passed down from generation to generation.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by InOne

So much hate passed down from generation to generation.

Each have a good argument and can fully justify what they do in a logical way. The only solution is total forgiveness.

[Angus]

Israel will always have US backing, since they are the strategic proxy presence in the Middle East protecting US oil interests. It has nothing to do with the Jewish lobby in senate as many people believe - in fact it's the Democrats who attract the greatest amount of Jewish votes, YET it's the Republicans who have traditionally backed the Israelis. So long as there are massive oil reserves to be fought over, USA will continue to support the Israelis, whatever they might do.

The USA never do anything altruistically, there is always a massive element of self-interest.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Each have a good argument and can fully justify what they do in a logical way. The only solution is total forgiveness.

Which of course will never happen.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by InOne

Which of course will never happen.

ask ourselves if we forgive when we have been wronged?

[arista]

Lauren Booth just Live on SkyNewsHD
was most angry outside the London Israeli Embassy
she said Sweden has Got rid of the Embassy staff
the UK must do the same.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

ask ourselves if we forgive when we have been wronged?

I think it's gone beyond that with them.

[BB_Eye]

How can anybody say they're as bad as eachother?

It was not enough that Israel was set up illegally as a nation and forcibly drove Palestinians from their homes into those tiny ghettos known as the Gaza strip (an area smaller than the size of Newcastle) and the West Bank. They couldn't even stick to the UN partition and when Palestinians reacted, Israel bombed the shit out of their civilians and they justify the existence of their racist regime by labelling the Palestinians terrorists.

Modern day apartheid.

[BrooklynFan]

Hello??? Israeli soldiers first radioed the ships and told them to stop entering Gaza as tehre is a blockade there, as Hamas, a terrorist organization, has taken over it. the flotilla ignored them and continued on to Gaza. Israeli soldiers then entered the ship and were attacked by knives, metal bars and live fire. Ony then did the soldiers begin shooting TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. why, why, why is middle east press coverage ALWAYS biased and one-sided???

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by BrooklynFan

Hello??? Israeli soldiers first radioed the ships and told them to stop entering Gaza as tehre is a blockade there, as Hamas, a terrorist organization, has taken over it. the flotilla ignored them and continued on to Gaza. Israeli soldiers then entered the ship and were attacked by knives, metal bars and live fire. Ony then did the soldiers begin shooting TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. why, why, why is middle east press coverage ALWAYS biased and one-sided???

This is just the Israeli Defense Force's spin on the story and even they admit they were blocking foreign aid.

[Sticks]

These ships were supplying terrorists who have been firing rockets at Israeli civilians.

They got off lightly with only 10 deaths

By international law, (Article 51 of the UN Convention), Israel had every right to sink every last ship with all hands.

[WOMBAI]

Personally - sick to death of terrorists - couldn't care less what happens to any of them!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Sticks

These ships were supplying terrorists who have been firing rockets at Israeli civilians.

They got off lightly with only 10 deaths

By international law, (Article 51 of the UN Convention), Israel had every right to sink every last ship with all hands.

"These ships were supplying terrorists who have been firing rockets at Israeli civilians."


Wrong they were supplying Aid for the public of Gaza

[Sticks]

They were supplying an area that is ruled by Hamas, a terrorist organisation which has as it's aim the annihilation of Israel.

Even supplying food to terrorists is supplying and giving succour and support to terrorists and their aims.

The people of Gaza know what they have to do and over throw the men of violence, namely Hamas, but they choose not to. In fact they voted in this terrorist organisation. Israel, under article 51 of the UN charter has every right to do what ever it takes to defend her people.

Israel so far has shown great restraint when it would be well with in it's right of self defence to take more aggressive action with more casualties to eradicate a threat to it's people.

[arista]

Food is needed for Children - Sticks,
as for your Yank Attitude,
You are on your own.

[Sticks]

So it is perfectly acceptable to fire rockets at civilians and go in with explosives around your body into a crowded market to kill as many women and children as possible, but not acceptable to try and prevent that?

The Palestinian authority of Hamas has pledged to annihilate another sovereign state. All the people of Gaza need to do is overthrow this terrorist regime. Until then Israel has every right given to it by Article 51 of the UN charter to defend it's people, just like we did when we sent the armada in 1982 when our sovereign territory was attacked by Argentina.

As the Israeli PM at the time observed, Britain was allowed to send forces halfway around the world under article 51, but Israel who is defending against a real threat much closer to home can do nothing?

[keithafc]

Im behind Israel on this.

There is a video on youtube of the stabbings.

Go Israel!