[starry]

We never had live feed with Freddie though.

[BB_Eye]

I would say bullying has been pretty much a staple of the series.

Penny BB2 - Stuart was very cruel to her and possibly the reason she got evicted the first week. Thank goodness Stuart was gone a week later.

Sophie BB3 - Very petty and malicious, totally unprovoked and done for no other reason than the fact that she was the newbie.

Sam BB6 - She was isolated in the house and wasn't just bullied by Leslie, but also Derek who had an almost obsessive vendetta against her.

Shahbaz, Sam and Suzie BB7 - Yes, Shahbaz may have been a nightmare to live with, but Grace and Sezer took a pretty vicious campaign against him. Grace plotted against Sam and was very good at getting away with it... placing the blame on to Lisa and Lea. Later on we got Grace's obsessive bitching about Suzie. I remember BB doing a lie detector test on the housemate and found Grace was the only one not to show any signs of anxiety while lying. Alarm bells pretty much rang at that point. Psycho bitch alert!

Everyone BB8 - Well... what can I say? Carole made the whole house miserable with plenty of help from Charley and Ziggy.

Mohamed BB9 - Alexandra and Team Bitch's bullying of Mo was probably the most unpleasant to watch. It went on for weeks on end, hardly anyone stuck up for him and worst of all, he ended up befriending the BBlock twats Rex and Darnell.

Freddie - Another one which is easy to make excuses for just because he may have been irritating at times. Lisa and Bea obviously felt threatened by someone more intelligent than them.

[chauncey]

Originally Posted by kisywisy

well, 1. my sister wouldn't have the attitude that she does
and 2. she wouldn't burst into tears like a pathetic child

my daughter cries when she's given into trouble...she EIGHT!!
if she cries to me about someone being horrible to her, i send her out to stick up for herself.

my daughter HAS been bullied in the past, so i've not got my head in the sand either.

Yeah yeah,because only children have reason to cry,or get bullied.I love these 'tough as nails' characters on the net.You've never cried as an adult,or comforted an adult friend who has?

,yep she deserved it,silly woman, already seen other JJ fans saying she 'needs a slap',if he did,I'm sure you'd justify that too.

[kisywisy]

Originally Posted by chauncey

Sigh,victim blaming.Yes it's HER fault for crying after being systematically targetted,verbally attacked,and character assassinated for 3 days.Not the fault of the guy doing it,no???

Funny how JJ fans don't address that NO ONE in the house supports his behaviour towards Rachael,even his closest friends,they all say he's going too far and needs to move on,yet people on here are justifying his behaviour.

erm...closest friends?? they've know each other for a week!! noone in that house are friends yet. they are ALL just getting to know each other and they are ALL still in 'game plan mode'

he went too far at the table, yes, but ONLY because he started shouting. his point was valid.

verbally attacked?? you mean, like...arguing?? character assassinated?? oh, please!!

[chauncey]

Originally Posted by kisywisy

erm...closest friends?? they've know each other for a week!! noone in that house are friends yet. they are ALL just getting to know each other and they are ALL still in 'game plan mode'

he went too far at the table, yes, but ONLY because he started shouting. his point was valid.

verbally attacked?? you mean, like...arguing?? character assassinated?? oh, please!!

Mmmhmm yeah.You forgot to add the standard 'oh my god JJ is so *special and unique* for being the beautifullest guy in there and not going for Rachael!'- I can't believe people are actually falling for his game.

[bansheewails]

It makes me laugh because JJ has said on numerous occasions that he wants to be Heats torso of the week. He is a hypocrite as well as arrogant!

[chauncey]

Originally Posted by bansheewails

It makes me laugh because JJ has said on numerous occasions that he wants to be Heats torso of the week. He is a hypocrite as well as arrogant!

He'll have his arse out in a gay mag the second he leaves.

Do his fans really believe he is so above the girls in terms of wanting fame and exposure?Yeah,he flew halfway around the world to appear on a foriegn BB just for 'the experiwience and to make new fwends'

[kisywisy]

Originally Posted by chauncey

Yeah yeah,because only children have reason to cry,or get bullied.I love these 'tough as nails' characters on the net.You've never cried as an adult,or comforted an adult friend who has?

,yep she deserved it,silly woman, already seen other JJ fans saying she 'needs a slap',if he did,I'm sure you'd justify that too.

hello?? hellooooooo?? are you still in my head, reading my thoughts?? no?? well DON'T assume you know how i'd react to that.

yes, i've cried but NOT over something as STUPID as that!! (as least, not since i was 15/16)

i'd prefer to be 'tough as nails' than a wet blanket

[kisywisy]

Originally Posted by chauncey

Mmmhmm yeah.You forgot to add the standard 'oh my god JJ is so *special and unique* for being the beautifullest guy in there and not going for Rachael!'- I can't believe people are actually falling for his game.

not really much point continuing this with you. getting tedious

enjoy bb

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by kisywisy

erm...closest friends?? they've know each other for a week!! noone in that house are friends yet. they are ALL just getting to know each other and they are ALL still in 'game plan mode'

he went too far at the table, yes, but ONLY because he started shouting. his point was valid.

verbally attacked?? you mean, like...arguing?? character assassinated?? oh, please!!

You'll get used to Chauncey Kis.

She uses the most extreme over dramatic language ('victim', 'abuse', 'bully') to describe what is basicially an argument between two equal adults.

I have no idea why, maybe it's just projection, maybe it's for attention, maybe for some other reason, but I wouldnt let it bother you.

it's a shame though, people like her have killed this show slowly over the years.

[MrWong]

"Psychological bullying.
Examples of psychological bullying and social manipulation include: ostracizing or ignoring peers, not inviting them to join groups or activities, spreading lies or rumors, name calling, and teasing hurtfully.


So are people denying that he's doing those things?

There are examples like this on the net, on Beat Bullying websites for instance. Why not educate yourself about it?

It's relentless aswell. On and on. Dude needs to give it a rest

[LBB11]

I dont like her but i dont think its fair the amont of crap hes giving her and yes i am a JJ fan but it seems hes being a tad over nasty way her, but hey its realy life yes but they wanted to go into big brother and **** always happens in the house that people in there and out here wont like but after 11years everybody should no that or if going in the house be aware of how people will treat them. Im a hearty person and that would have hurt me as well but i would have give it back as good as i got, and no children arent the only people that are allowed to cry, i cry alot proberly more than my 2 children lol. We all like the show and we all like diffrent people and everyones point counts to them if they dont like it well argue here or get over it we,re no in the house we,re just watching its a show its on to entertain us imho.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by MrWong

It's relentless aswell. On and on. Dude needs to give it a rest

Yeah, some people around here need to as well

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by vesavius

You'll get used to Chauncey Kis.

She uses the most extreme over dramatic language ('victim', 'abuse', 'bully') to describe what is basicially an argument between two equal adults.

I have no idea why, maybe it's just projection, maybe it's for attention, maybe for some other reason, but I wouldnt let it bother you.

it's a shame though, people like her have killed this show slowly over the years.

Since you're familier with projection. Can you not see that's exactly what's happening with JJ towards Rach? He hates her for everything that he is.

Vain, fame hungry wannabe.

[Real]

She should have stood her ground and gave as good as she got instead of leaving the table.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Yeah, some people around here need to as well

Mighty fine debating skills you've got there

[LBB11]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Yeah, some people around here need to as well

lmao your so right, i fine it so funny because i dont get why people get so hot up about things that are so sad/stupid and have to do with people that arent in there rell lifes. Lifes hard for most so they like to argue and bitch and this is just the place every year to vent it out.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Real

She should have stood her ground and gave as good as she got instead of leaving the table.

Maybe she would have if she wasn't up for eviction?

When you're up it's best not to have an argument.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Mighty fine debating skills you've got there

would debating you really do any good wong? would you listen? would you have a moment of clarity, see the other side of things, and change your stance to accomadate valid points made to you?

I don't think so, so I have given up trying. Sorry.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by vesavius

would debating you really do any good wong? would you listen? would you have a moment of clarity, see the other side of things, and change your stance to accomadate valid points made to you?

I don't think so, so I have given up trying. Sorry.

Try answering some of the points i make then?

I gave examples of bullying. Do you think he's done any of the things i highlighted in the text?

What's the other side of things? Go ahead and justify what he's doing instead of making smart arsed comments. That's not really debating is it.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Try answering some of the points i make then?

I gave examples of bullying. Do you think he's done any of the things i highlighted in the text?

What's the other side of things? Go ahead and justify what he's doing instead of making smart arsed comments. That's not really debating is it.

No it isnt, but I have explained I have given up debating with you on this issue.

I have said what i think, you have said what you think. neither of us will cause the other to have an epiphany, so just take what you want and move on. Use it or don't, but theres no point in flogging a dead horse.

It's honestly all the same to me.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by vesavius

No it isnt, but I have explained I have given up debating with you on this issue.

I have said what i think, you have said what you think. neither of us will cause the other to have an epiphany, so just take what you want and move on. Use it or don't, but theres no point in flogging a dead horse.

Given up? You didn't even start. Read back the thread.

Debating is making valid arguments and defending them.

You didn't do that.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Given up? You didn't even start. Read back the thread.

Debating is making valid arguments and defending them.

You didn't do that.

it's not just this thread that you have been saying the same things in though is it?

Like I say though, done with you on this topic. The inevitable last word is yours.

[fruit_cake]

i dont see how it can be bullying when there's five of them and only one of JJ?

[chauncey]

JJ fans you're right.It doesn't matter whether or not Rachael's being bullied,
all that matters is that Shabby is odds on to go and Rachael is staying,I'm sure this will please JJ and by extension you,his fans,very much!