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Omah · 29-08-2010, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cath03

You do have a point. But Coolio's argument (speculation here) was probably about him doing exactly what he was supposed to do and was being paid for. I.e. being a wind up merchant.

So he is sat in that DR for two hours saying to BB that they told him to do that and what the heck are they complaining about.

That's why I think he's been paid off. I think that Coolio would have apoligised (again speculation), but he didn't even have that choice because Nadia had already said that she wouldn't accept it and it was a her or him to go situation.

Big Brother, to save Nadia, had to pay Coolio off. Their only other recourse was to not give in to Nadia's demands and eject her.

OTOH, BB have refused to pay him a penny and that's why he was escorted off the premises by minders without any of his belongings - he's also been told to find his own flight home .....

Coolio is escorted from the Big Brother house after it was 'mutually' deciding to leave

A spokeswoman for the show was unable to confirm if Coolio would still get paid for his appearance following his decision to walk out.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...#ixzz0y2hUdMlZ

CaudleHalbard · 29-08-2010, 11:51 PM

We still don't know what Coolio actually said to Nadia.

If it was very un-PC (e.g. a scathing remark about her sex change) you would not be able to throw Nadia out without her screaming to the media about it.

Pure speculation but how about this:

Coolio: "Sex change??? We thought you still savin' up for it .... dawg!"

flamingGalah! · 30-08-2010, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cath03

If we go by the highlights, he said that he didn't want to leave, but he was going to continue being a wind up merchant. Rewind it and watch it again.

That isn't someone who was wanting to leave at all.

Add that to the two hour long diary room session, then I think he was persuaded to take that fee and perhaps more in order for Nadia to stay.

Of course, it's all opinion and speculation, but the highlight show in my view showed a clearly upset and somewhat surprised Coolio and certainly not a callous one just looking for a fee and a quick exit.

But whether Coolio stated he wanted to stay or not doesn't really matter, he was only on the show for the money in the first place... I doubt he would really give a flying monkeys as long as he was paid his original fee...

And we don't know what went on in the diary room for 2 hours, but I am sure he was negotiating his fee, as they usually have it in their contract that they must stay until evicted...

Coolio to is as a silly old man, who man have just been having a laugh, but he comes across as rather intimidating & aggressive with it... If he was upset or surprised then he should have thought about that before acting like a complete twat...

cath03 · 30-08-2010, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

But whether Coolio stated he wanted to stay or not doesn't really matter, he was only on the show for the money in the first place... I doubt he would really give a flying monkeys as long as he was paid his original fee...

And we don't know what went on in the diary room for 2 hours, but I am sure he was negotiating his fee, as they usually have it in their contract that they must stay until evicted...

Coolio to is as a silly old man, who man have just been having a laugh, but he comes across as rather intimidating & aggressive with it... If he was upset or surprised then he should have thought about that before acting like a complete twat...

Jeez....what the heck are the rest of them there for if it isn't their fee? They all know that only one of them can win, so why even bother if it's so clear cut who is going to win.

However, Nadia has upped her game by overruling BB and got her way. I suspect many of the housemates might be feeling a bit peeved that BB has shown blatant favouritism, regardless of their outward support of her.

flamingGalah! · 30-08-2010, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by cath03

Jeez....what the heck are the rest of them there for if it isn't their fee? They all know that only one of them can win, so why even bother if it's so clear cut who is going to win.

However, Nadia has upped her game by overruling BB and got her way. I suspect many of the housemates might be feeling a bit peeved that BB has shown blatant favouritism, regardless of their outward support of her.

Obviously they are all in there because of the money they are receiving, I never said they wern't & I don't think it's clear cut at all as to who will win...

You obviously do not like Nadia, but we do not know what Coolio said to her. He could have made a derogatory comment about her being a transsexual, if so then he deserves to be kicked out. That is not "blatant favouritism" that is simply not standing for any kind of discriminatory abuse...

cath03 · 30-08-2010, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Obviously they are all in there because of the money they are receiving, I never said they wern't & I don't think it's clear cut at all as to who will win...

You obviously do not like Nadia, but we do not know what Coolio said to her. He could have made a derogatory comment about her being a transsexual, if so then he deserves to be kicked out. That is not "blatant favouritism" that is simply not standing for any kind of discriminatory abuse...

See this is what I mean about speculation and editing.

There's absolutely no proof anywhere that Coolio said anything about Nadia's gender. Nowhere.

I've read all the WHATM's both here and on Digital Spy and not one forum member can absolutely state that Coolio said anything derogatory about her gender.

However what I do know is that Ulrika and Josie singled him out for a slating on the very first night before Josie had even had a chance to get to know him.

I also know for a fact that Josie called him a wanker....again before even speaking to him.

I also know that Josie decided to steal his cigarettes even though she had none and Coolio had freely offered his.

I also know that Ulrika set the tone about Coolio to other housemates outwith his earshot, this included Nadia who happened to comment that he's an idiot.......again we have no way of knowing if Nadia ever spoke to him one to one.

So what I viewed at this point was a bit of a 'made up of minds' in regards to Coolio.

Chantelle, who was also part of the group that Ulrika was speaking to, broke rank and found Coolio harmless and funny. She even remarked that he's too old to be a gangster to which he himself laughed about but said he has to keep to the image.

I could go on .....but my point here is that a witchhunt was already in place about Coolio before even getting to know him. Ulrika and Josie were very much part of that influence over other housemates.

parmnion · 30-08-2010, 12:44 AM

cath...you are a legend.

flamingGalah! · 30-08-2010, 12:46 AM

Nick has said that what Coolio said to Nadia was out of order, if BB really did remove him then it has to be for transphobic comments doesn't it?

Can't see what else he could have said to her to be honest & ALL the other housemates were on Nadia's side...

cath03 · 30-08-2010, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Nick has said that what Coolio said to Nadia was out of order, if BB really did remove him then it has to be for transphobic comments doesn't it?

Can't see what else he could have said to her to be honest & ALL the other housemates were on Nadia's side...

Nick said that in response to pure hearsay from another housemate. I.e. What he said was, *if that is true, then it's out of order"

Nick himself, did not hear Coolio say anything and is a victim of hearsay.

flamingGalah! · 30-08-2010, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by cath03

Nick said that in response to pure hearsay from another housemate. I.e. What he said was, *if that is true, then it's out of order"

Nick himself, did not hear Coolio say anything and is a victim of hearsay.

But BB must have heard it mustn't they?...

cath03 · 30-08-2010, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

But BB must have heard it mustn't they?...

BB don't give a **** about Coolio, do they?

stonedape · 30-08-2010, 12:53 AM

If BB doesn't want people to be pissed about ejecting Coolio based on what seems to be nothing, they need to show the comments he made that were responsible for him leaving. And if it causes controversy, good, the show needs it.

cath03 · 30-08-2010, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by stonedape

If BB doesn't want people to be pissed about ejecting Coolio based on what seems to be nothing, they need to show the comments he made that were responsible for him leaving. And if it causes controversy, good, the show needs it.

Exactly.

But they won't and didn't.

And we have to question why not if it is true.

And we also need to question if there was indeed a witchhunt against him in the first place at the behest of Ulrika who really started this.

humourwins · 30-08-2010, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Nick has said that what Coolio said to Nadia was out of order, if BB really did remove him then it has to be for transphobic comments doesn't it?

Can't see what else he could have said to her to be honest & ALL the other housemates were on Nadia's side...

I agree with you. I think they saved themselves the grief of an Ofcom investigation by not showing it, but had no choice but to get him to go. They couldn't give a sh*t about the housemates - as was shown by their blatant lack of care for Josie. All they care about is going out with a bang. To them that probably constitutes Preston and Chantelle getting back together. They would have been quite happy to let Nadia go if it had just been about the shoes - they would have shown her the door. However, if there was a clear case of prejudice and others heard it, they knew they didn't have a leg to stand on because she would have talked about it and so would they.

BigBrotherfan4ever · 30-08-2010, 10:18 AM

Personally i think they both should have been removed, for aggressive behavior.

flamingGalah! · 30-08-2010, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by cath03

BB don't give a **** about Coolio, do they?

And why should they?? If he made a disgusting & transphobic comment to Nadia he deserves to be kicked out. End of.

Don't quite know why you are sticking up for him to be honest...

MassiveTruck · 30-08-2010, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Nick has said that what Coolio said to Nadia was out of order, if BB really did remove him then it has to be for transphobic comments doesn't it?

Can't see what else he could have said to her to be honest & ALL the other housemates were on Nadia's side...

That doesn't mean it was anything against trans-sexuals or her operation is it. It could just be Nick playing the party line to the cameras - who knows.

Even if Coolio did say something about Trans-Sexuality then it's not discrimination. That's a joke! A complete and utter joke!! If coolio wants to say something about Nadia having her penis removed, why is it wrong?

Did Nadia have a penis removed? Yes. So... what's the problem? If he makes a joke out of it, is it a problem? No... because it happened. It's not discriminating - it's just talking about the elephant.

You're saying like you're not supposed to talk about it because it's some big white elephant in the room!!

Now if he treated Nadia worse because of it - that is a question but we all know very well that is not the case. We all know very well it was Nadia who treated Coolio worse. It was Nadia who singled out Coolio and it was Nadia who ignored him and and didn't like him for no reason, just like Josie, Ulrika and Nikki didn't.

But oh... let's get one thing straight... Poor Nadia is a Trans-Sexual so we wrap Nadia in cotton wool and leave Nadia be!! ShheeeesH!!!

flamingGalah! · 30-08-2010, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cath03

Exactly.

But they won't and didn't.

And we have to question why not if it is true.

And we also need to question if there was indeed a witchhunt against him in the first place at the behest of Ulrika who really started this.

There was no witch hunt. Ulrika shared the house with Coolio before, she knew exactly what he was like... and she was right.

Coolio is gone, good riddance I say too. Get over it.

flamingGalah! · 30-08-2010, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MassiveTruck

That doesn't mean it was anything against trans-sexuals or her operation is it. It could just be Nick playing the party line to the cameras - who knows.

Even if Coolio did say something about Trans-Sexuality then it's not discrimination. That's a joke! A complete and utter joke!! If coolio wants to say something about Nadia having her penis removed, why is it wrong?

Did Nadia have a penis removed? Yes. So... what's the problem? If he makes a joke out of it, is it a problem? No... because it happened. It's not discriminating - it's just talking about the elephant.

You're saying like you're not supposed to talk about it because it's some big white elephant in the room!!

Now if he treated Nadia worse because of it - that is a question but we all know very well that is not the case. We all know very well it was Nadia who treated Coolio worse. It was Nadia who singled out Coolio and it was Nadia who ignored him and and didn't like him for no reason, just like Josie, Ulrika and Nikki didn't.

But oh... let's get one thing straight... Poor Nadia is a Trans-Sexual so we wrap Nadia in cotton wool and leave Nadia be!! ShheeeesH!!!

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Just ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ is all I have to say to you mate...

MassiveTruck · 30-08-2010, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Just ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ is all I have to say to you mate...

Oh I'm sorry. Wasn't it riddled with fake drama and pointless hysteria for you?

Let me address that forthwith.

TABLOID EMOTIONS MODE - []ON[]

----OH NO OH NO

COOLIO must have he MUST HAVE absoluted gone on and on and on and on about Nadia's missing genitalia and mocked it incessantly and I know this because Coolio is just the type. He acts arrogant and mysoginistic and he is disgusting to Women, All women and acts like that _ HEAVEN FORBID I have some perspective on the issue and base everything on the facts but we must, I say we need to and desire the effects of high power tabloid induced fake drama to make somebody look awful because poor wee cuddly nadia needs to be nurtured and breastfed from the teddy bear nipple of candy floss and jelly babies?-----

TABLOID EMOTIONS MODE - []OFF[]

Is that ok?

flamingGalah! · 30-08-2010, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MassiveTruck

Oh I'm sorry. Wasn't it riddled with fake drama and pointless hysteria for you?

Let me address that forthwith.

TABLOID EMOTIONS MODE - []ON[]

----OH NO OH NO

COOLIO must have he MUST HAVE absoluted gone on and on and on and on about Nadia's missing genitalia and mocked it incessantly and I know this because Coolio is just the type. He acts arrogant and mysoginistic and he is disgusting to Women, All women and acts like that _ HEAVEN FORBID I have some perspective on the issue and base everything on the facts but we must, I say we need to and desire the effects of high power tabloid induced fake drama to make somebody look awful because poor wee cuddly nadia needs to be nurtured and breastfed from the teddy bear nipple of candy floss and jelly babies?-----

TABLOID EMOTIONS MODE - []OFF[]

Is that ok?

Grow up... seriously.

MassiveTruck · 30-08-2010, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Grow up... seriously.

I would say the same thing to you.

At least listen and understand what people are saying here about the facts and what we know about the show.

You are basing nothing on facts but are focussing on pseudo-charity and blind protest in this Nadia thing.

Julie10 · 30-08-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Omah

23:17

They are talking about Coolio and Nadia's row.

"I've never seen Nadia kick off like that before," says Victor.

"Well Ulrika said she's never seen Coolio like that," adds Nick.

So there's much more to the "argument" than has, so far, met the eye .....

I am sure Nadia actually hit Vanessa during the fight night and was warned. So she should know about aggression and not act all innocent.

MassiveTruck · 30-08-2010, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Julie10

I am sure Nadia actually hit Vanessa during the fight night and was warned. So she should know about aggression and not act all innocent.

I also think Ulrika would speak out against Coolio if he was sitting down doing nothing - or even feeding the starving millions and nursing the sick back to health.

CaudleHalbard · 30-08-2010, 11:46 AM

Everything relevant has been edited out so we don't really know what Coolio said or what Nadia said in response.

But whatever it was, it was obviously bad enough for BB to ask Coolio to change his ways with Nadia - or leave. He chose to leave.

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