[InOne]

So this has been dominating the news, buit would she get this much attention if she wasn't good looking and in a decent job? The media is so fickle

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-12080254

[arista]

Something the Parents said
'She Was Classy'

Who ever took her may have be drawn to that
and Why is the Boyfriend not checked out better.

How many times do we find out later
it was the partner


http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-...%2C_Police_Say




Sad news for the Family.

[Benjamin]

Her poor family, there is no good time to be told this news, but this is probably the worst time

[Shaun]

The way the media are treating this, you'd think it was the first murder in a year

That said, R.I.P. Terrible tragedy for the family.

[Jords]

=/

[InOne]

I'm not taking away anything from the fact she was murdered and it's sad for her family and that, but you can see the point i'm making.

[lostalex]

We don't live in a kind world.

All the best wishes to her family. I can only imagine the intolerable grief they must be feeling.

[arista]

Live on all UK media
Police Confirmed she was Strangled.

So now a Murder.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Scrooge

I'm not taking away anything from the fact she was murdered and it's sad for her family and that, but you can see the point i'm making.

Yes.

[InOne]

So it's a sex crime?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Scrooge

So this has been dominating the news, buit would she get this much attention if she wasn't good looking and in a decent job? The media is so fickle

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-12080254

Originally Posted by Scrooge

I'm not taking away anything from the fact she was murdered and it's sad for her family and that, but you can see the point i'm making.

I think it dominating the news has more to do with the fact that the 'news has been dominated with more trivial things such as snow, flight delays etc'.... and less to do with her levels of attractiveness and employments status: this puts all the moans about the weather, delays, inconveniences etc it has caused, into perspective.

sorry but I don't see the point you are making?

It's a particularly sensitive time of the year, and her family will never ever be able to celebrate Christmas/New Year with real joy - for the rest of their lives. THAT'S the point...... not that she wasn't ugly or unemployed.

[InOne]

The point I was making is clear, the media is fickle. Come on, you know this.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Scrooge

The point I was making is clear, the media is fickle. Come on, you know this.

On this one, I totally disagree.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Snowball

On this one, I totally disagree.

Think about it, especially with kids. They're worst for that. Everyone gets heartbroken with one case with a kid until the next one comes along.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Scrooge

I'm not taking away anything from the fact she was murdered and it's sad for her family and that, but you can see the point i'm making.

Yeah, it's a terrible thing to happen but there are hundreds of murders in the UK every year, most of whom dont get the attention and the publicity that this case is getting

[Kazanne]

The worst thing in life is to lose a child to murder,I feel for them,must be a horrendous time for them.Are they certain she has been murdered though,I read something that gave indications she MIGHT just have died from the cold.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yeah, it's a terrible thing to happen but there are hundreds of murders in the UK every year, most of whom dont get the attention and the publicity that this case is getting

Okay then. So what do you expect the news to currently concentrate on then? The continuing weather, when the next snow fall is expected? It's news. As it is news when all the other murders are reported on.

And Scrooge..... if they are being fickle as you say in reporting on Joanna - are they also being fickle when it is someone elses child, but a child of a younger age, when they are reporting those types of murder?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by kazanne

The worst thing in life is to lose a child to murder,I feel for them,must be a horrendous time for them.Are they certain she has been murdered though,I read something that gave indications she MIGHT just have died from the cold.

Given the recent weather, it's not beyond the realms of possibility. Though the fact that she left the house when her phone, bag, purse etc were all still there... does seem 'odd'.

It goes against nature for a parent to have to bury a child - and regardless of her age, social status etc: I don't think the media are over reporting on this. It's news, and at this time of year, it's more newsworthy -and as you say, it's still unsolved - that's what gives the media the interest in it (along with the time of year).

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Snowball

Okay then. So what do you expect the news to currently concentrate on then? The continuing weather, when the next snow fall is expected? It's news. As it is news when all the other murders are reported on.

And Scrooge..... if they are being fickle as you say in reporting on Joanna - are they also being fickle when it is someone elses child, but a child of a younger age, when they are reporting those types of murder?

Oh look, a quick google search and what do I find - http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/87588...ar_Chichester/

"Residents in a sleepy village spoke of their shock after a man’s body was found with multiple stab wounds

Detectives were yesterday combing the isolated, rural location looking for clues after the death of a 45-year-old man.

The Romanian nursery worker, who was living and working at the plant nursery, in Second Avenue, Almodington, near Chichester, was stabbed several times late on Christmas Day"

He wont be on the front page of every newspaper in Britain, noone gives a sh*t about him. What makes Joanna Yates murder any more important than this guys?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Oh look, a quick google search and what do I find - http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/87588...ar_Chichester/

"Residents in a sleepy village spoke of their shock after a man’s body was found with multiple stab wounds

Detectives were yesterday combing the isolated, rural location looking for clues after the death of a 45-year-old man.

The Romanian nursery worker, who was living and working at the plant nursery, in Second Avenue, Almodington, near Chichester, was stabbed several times late on Christmas Day"

He wont be on the front page of every newspaper in Britain, noone gives a sh*t about him. What makes Joanna Yates murder any more important than this guys?

It clearly has escaped your attention that the 'victim' is not the one who is giving themselves the publicity. It's the relatives and those involved who push the publicity..... if this man doesn't have relatives who want to push in the same way as Joanna's relatives (and friends) do.... it's hardly the media's fault.

They will respond to what is being given the biggest push.

Joanna had been reported missing since 17th December - therefore the media push was not for a murder, but on finding her - that was the news story. Unfortunately they have found her. Dead, therefore the news will expand on the original story.

You'll also note that the person 'murdered' in your link, has not yet been officially identified (according to the link you posted). Joanna's body has been identified.

You'll also note that a 53 year old man has been arrested in connection with the murder. Joanna's death is still under investigation.

Lots of differing factors. Lots of differing reasons & circumstances for a national paper not picking up the story.

As for your comments, "Nobody gives a sh!t about him".... maybe you want to go ask his relatives/family why they haven't contacted the press to see if that will help .... oh wait... the police already have someone they suspect as being responsible. Maybe that's a huge big clue - it's nothing to do with no one giving a damn, but more to do with 'WHO' murdered - which is what the police are focusing on at the moment with Joanna's case.

[arista]

Originally Posted by InOne

So it's a sex crime?

At the Press Meeting today
The Police were asked that Question
And they Do not know ,as yet?


The Body was Frozen
so they take there time on what they find.

[InOne]

You just keep missing the point. Don't get why you keep bringing all these other factors into it. You really think the media would have a 52 year old man as head line news rather than Joanna?

It's like with suicides, always a lovely young girl who was doing so well in life or something. You come up with all these other factors and dodge the actual point. The media is fickle and so are people in some cases. Everyone is guilty of it.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by InOne

You just keep missing the point. Don't get why you keep bringing all these other factors into it. You really think the media would have a 52 year old man as head line news rather than Joanna?

It's like with suicides, always a lovely young girl who was doing so well in life or something. You come up with all these other factors and dodge the actual point. The media is fickle and so are people in some cases. Everyone is guilty of it.

I'm not missing any point. I was addressing a particular post that MTVN made and towards a link that they posted - and all of what I said was relevant - not dodging the point as you have stated (ie: bringing other factors into it) - read MTVN's post and you will understand why I said what I did in my reply to them. I've addressed 'your point' several times over on this thread.

Sorry if you disagree, but that's the way life works. I disagree that the media are being fickle. Joanna's story has gone from a missing person hunt over several days to a finding the missing person dead ..... and now trying to establish whether it was murder or not. It's hardly a 'like for like' scenario is it.

That's a bit different from a 53 year old man being murdered, and within 1 day of his body being found, someone has actually been arrested in connection with being responsible.

Twist it all you like, but those are the facts of the matter. Those ARE the points. Joanna was missing since 17 December: the hunt for her went on since the 17 December, appeals to the public at her parents and local police requests: until they found her body yesterday: now the story has changed to establishing whether she was murdered or not.

Now which part of 'my points' is it that you aren't quite understanding? The story began as a missing person story - and has ended up in a possible murder investigation. The media have continued the story due to the changes that happened. It's not that difficult to understanad. (and I far preferred Scrooge!)

ps. the Romanian guy was reported as being 53. Not 52.

[InOne]

Those are your points, but we'll have to agree to disagree lol We'll only end up going round in circles. I was just letting you know the way the media works, take it how you want...

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by InOne

Those are your points, but we'll have to agree to disagree lol We'll only end up going round in circles. I was just letting you know the way the media works, take it how you want...

I think I'm pretty much long enough in the tooth to know how the media works.........

But yes we will have to agree to disagree.