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Old 07-08-2017, 09:55 PM #3576
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I felt so sorry for all the horse deaths

I hope Jamie is dead but he definately isn't.
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If Jamie is dead then it would be up there with Stannis' as the worst death on the show, in terms of how they died.

Pretty certain he's still alive though.
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It makes no logical sense that someone can rescue him from a pool of water that is currently right next to Daenerys, her winning army, and a ****ing dragon
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I'm surprised they're keeping Bronn alive tbh I didn't think he'd have much importance and immediately thought he'd be gone when this all started

Then again, it sort of looked like the fire caught him as they went in the pool
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It makes no logical sense that someone can rescue him from a pool of water that is currently right next to Daenerys, her winning army, and a ****ing dragon
Bronn is in the water also so he could rescue him. I wouldn't be suprised if Bronn is injured from saving him
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I don't see anything happening other than Tyrion first convincing Bronn and then Jaime to switch allegiance..Cersei probably doing something really evil even Jaime has enough
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that battle was just amazing!
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Tyrion didn't seem too happy with how Daenarys went about attacking the Lannisters though. If he also starts to get sidelined a bit because she doesn't trust his judgement anymore then I can see him getting frustrated and going north with Jon
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Great episode.

Don't know who was more stupid. Jaime charging or Dany burning all the food wagons in Winter.

All hail Lord Bronn, Wounder of Dragons.
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Oh and I can't wait for the Arya and Jon reunion. The Stark reunion we all need. Jon needs to leave Miss Bend The Knee already and meet his little sister(yeah, I'm not calling them cousins. **** that lol).
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The way I saw it is he sees loads of things he doesn't fully understand and they come out jumbled in his head like the montages we've seen, so while he can see some things in the past they don't make much coherent sense as yet and he's having to piece them together and it's made him a bit weird
The "chaos is a ladder" comment suggests otherwise though, it's a very specific reference to something Littlefinger said years ago, and basically Bran telling him that he knows everything.
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Yeah. No chance Jaime or Bronn die and nor should they really. They are both arguably more likeable than anyone on Team Dany bar Tyrion, so they balance out the Cersei hate.
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Cersei is really reminding me of Tywin. Just the way they do things, all the sneaky plans/double bluffing.
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I'm surprised they're keeping Bronn alive tbh I didn't think he'd have much importance and immediately thought he'd be gone when this all started

Then again, it sort of looked like the fire caught him as they went in the pool
I think the fact he lost his money and yet ran to the scorpion to wound the dragon anyway and then risked his life to save Jaime is trying to show us that he's starting to become more than just a Mercenary and his loyalties may not simply just be to Money.
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No way Jaime is dead. Why bother having him saved from an awesome dragon death if he's just going to drown in the next scene? Would be incredibly pointless, he still has lots to do.

I think he probably will be captured, which will lead to Tyrion having to make an important choice. After Jaime freed Tyrion from the King's Landing dungeon which lead to him killing Tywin, you've got to imagine Tyrion would return the favour.

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Could the "she would give me a ship and wish me well" bit with Missandei be foreshadowing? I think Tyrion might ask to leave Dragonstone with Jon and head for Winterfell, and if so, he might request that they take Jaime with them...

I strongly suspect that anyone who holds a Valerian Steel weapon is destined to fight White Walkers, and Jaime has one.

Or..... As he gifted his original one to Brienne..... Might he gift Widow's Wail to Bronn for saving his life?

I mean there's also the Tarly sword that Sam has, someone else will surely be using that at some point. I can't see Sam himself flailing around with it... He can barely lift it .

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No way Jaime is dead. Why bother having him saved from an awesome dragon death if he's just going to drown in the next scene? Would be incredibly pointless, he still has lots to do.

I think he probably will be captured, which will lead to Tyrion having to make an important choice. After Jaime freed Tyrion from the King's Landing dungeon which lead to him killing Tywin, you've got to imagine Tyrion would return the favour.
Tyrion wasn't guilty of what he was imprisoned for, Jamie just tried to kill the queen that tyrion has declared for, if he frees Jamie, he'll either have to go with him or he's ready to be a dragon snack
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Tyrion wasn't guilty of what he was imprisoned for, Jamie just tried to kill the queen that tyrion has declared for, if he frees Jamie, he'll either have to go with him or he's ready to be a dragon snack
i can think of Tyrion going to winterfell and the wall with Jaime for the upcoming white walker war


Dany already nearly lost her mind, walking the same path her father did, also burning lots of people to the ground with the dragons, so i can see her downfall also coming very soon or near the end of season 8
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How is killing soilders of an opposing army with dragons any different to killing them with men
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How is killing soilders of an opposing army with dragons any different to killing them with men
It isn't really. Whether you get burned by a dragon or chopped to bits with a sword... It's not really any different at all. She did take Jon's advice - she wanted to fly her dragons right into King's Landing and burn Cersei right there and then - he told her not to go burning towns and castles, so she changed the plan and targeted the soldiers in the open.

The real change with Daenerys is that before, she has been raising armies to free slaves and make people's lives better. While Cersei isn't "good", as a ruler she is basically just letting the "common people" get on with their lives, she isn't doing anything particularly awful to them, their day to day lives would be no different under Dany. So she isn't doing to to liberate like she was before, or to defend people like Jon... She just "wants the throne". She's a conqueror not really all that different to Cersei.
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How is killing soilders of an opposing army with dragons any different to killing them with men
with dragons it's a bloodbath and a massacre


but with men to men fights, at least everyone has a fair chance, and the strongest will survive that
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Pretty terrible PR for her to deliberately burn all the food which was needed to keep the most important city in Westeros from starving
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Pretty terrible PR for her to deliberately burn all the food which was needed to keep the most important city in Westeros from starving
she doesn't care about that, all she cares about is her iron throne, cause it's her birthright as the one last targaryen
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Tyrion wasn't guilty of what he was imprisoned for, Jamie just tried to kill the queen that tyrion has declared for, if he frees Jamie, he'll either have to go with him or he's ready to be a dragon snack
I felt that a lot of the focus on Tyrion during that battle was very much a "he doesn't agree with what she is doing here" kind of thing. The small clip of Varys and Tyrion in next weeks promo enforces that as well. I think his love for Jaime will be more important to him than winning Dany the throne, especially as his relationship with her seems to be starting to strain, on both his and her parts.
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