[Josy]

Everyone I know are taking their own pens with them to the polling stations because they are insisting pencils are used for the votes, the majority isn't willing to take a chance of having their votes tampered with, which basically says neither side is trusted.

They may even reject votes done in pen.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Josy

Everyone I know are taking their own pens with them to the polling stations because they are insisting pencils are used for the votes, the majority isn't willing to take a chance of having their votes tampered with, which basically says neither side is trusted.

They may even reject votes done in pen.

The idea of that mistrust makes me sad.

[Alf]

.Please don't go! vote no!

Don't leave us, stay British.

Don't be selfish, think of the future, think of your children and your childrens children.

As Paul McCartney once said "Mull of Kintyre" (sorry not that one)
He said "We all stand together"

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by wannashag

.Please don't go! vote no!

Don't leave us, stay British.

Don't be selfish, think of the future, think of your children and your childrens children.

As Paul McCartney once said "Mull of Kintyre" (sorry not that one)
He said "We all stand together"

To be honest, from what I've heard, it's "Yes" voters that are thinking more about what's better for the country long-term (even looking to a times when we'll all be long dead) whereas "No" voters are thinking more about their own comfort and security in the immediate future...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To be honest, from what I've heard, it's "Yes" voters that are thinking more about what's better for the country long-term (even looking to a times when we'll all be long dead) whereas "No" voters are thinking more about their own comfort and security in the immediate future...

The yes campaign is all about getting free of the conservative stranglehold, that is a given next year I would have thought?

[Scarlett.]

I think it's rather insane that the 'Yes' campaigners are calling their fellow countrymen 'Traitors' for not sharing the same view as them, I'm kind of worried what the reaction will be if the outcome is 'No'.

[Kizzy]

I'm more worried about what they will do if it is a yes! Have you seen 'The wicker man'? I'm guessing it'll be something like that, all the no supporters wheeled to Gretna and set alight

[arista]

[Jeremy Paxman: Scandal of Britons having no say in Scottish referendum
Ex-Newsnight presenter criticises that many in the United Kingdom are banned from voting on its future]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ote-referendum



No Pax
the English would vote Yes for the Scottish Freedom

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

[Jeremy Paxman: Scandal of Britons having no say in Scottish referendum
Ex-Newsnight presenter criticises that many in the United Kingdom are banned from voting on its future]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ote-referendum



No Pax
the English would vote Yes for the Scottish Freedom

I wouldn't, I like Scotland and I don't like that Salmon guy... there's something fishy about him

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I wouldn't, I like Scotland and I don't like that Salmon guy... there's something fishy about him

Yes but more millions in England
would vote Yes
than no

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes but more millions in England
would vote Yes
than no

Why.... logically where is the benefit for the us to cast Scotland adrift?

[parmnion]

here is an idea Scotland.....all the other countries who voted for independence became independent, you should be ashamed to call yourself Scottish if it is a no vote, you will be the laughing stock of the world if you become the first nation to resist independence when given the vote...heard all of this loads of times, it makes me laugh cause they are basically telling you that to become independent you have to follow what everyone else does.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The yes campaign is all about getting free of the conservative stranglehold, that is a given next year I would have thought?

maybe the slimy wee ****e should go down England and campaign to get more votes for his ****ty little party instead of going all out to rip a strong unit apart.

[Josy]

So sad to see the abuse each side are giving out to each other in comments under articles and stuff now, so much for Salmond's peaceful campaign, the insults I have seen flung around is actually sickening, regardless of what happens on Thursday we still have to live together and the country will never be the same again.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Josy

So sad to see the abuse each side are giving out to each other in comments under articles and stuff now, so much for Salmond's peaceful campaign, the insults I have seen flung around is actually sickening, regardless of what happens on Thursday we still have to live together and the country will never be the same again.

You can live with us
but have freedom from Westminster.




The PM up there again Live on all news
is enough for another thousand to vote Yes.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Josy

So sad to see the abuse each side are giving out to each other in comments under articles and stuff now, so much for Salmond's peaceful campaign, the insults I have seen flung around is actually sickening, regardless of what happens on Thursday we still have to live together and the country will never be the same again.

It is sad and particularly that I had felt we were good neighbours with the other union countries, part of the same whole, but it feels that was all a sham now and there is a lot more hatred than I ever imagined.

I have a feeling that it will be a yes vote and will be very close like 51%. I don't think it is the right thing really for any of us to fragment rather than sticking together but that is my feeling. I hope I'm wrong though!

[joeysteele]

It won't have gone down that well I guess with the Scots overall I doubt.
However I must be feeling ill at the minute as I thought David Cameron made a really strong and valid speech today,I was impressed.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The yes campaign is all about getting free of the conservative stranglehold, that is a given next year I would have thought?

Well yes, until next time. Scotland was torn to shreds by Thatcher and the end of Thatcherism was a given, and yet here we are again... living with a number of policies that Thatcher herself shied away from in the 80's. Labour is likely to come into power right on top of the latest Tory economic illusion, which will then pop spectacularly... Tories then blame Labour because they were in power when this happened... and so the pendulum swings back to them only with even more reasoning and ammunition to justify horrendous political decisions.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Josy

So sad to see the abuse each side are giving out to each other in comments under articles and stuff now, so much for Salmond's peaceful campaign, the insults I have seen flung around is actually sickening, regardless of what happens on Thursday we still have to live together and the country will never be the same again.

It's inevitable in these final days with emotions running high, it'll settle down in time no matter which way the vote goes. If anything, I think at the very least, the political eyes of the whole of Scotland are currently WIDE open. And that can only ever be a good thing. If the rest of the UK could follow suit then we would ALL be better off, whether together or apart. We've all been far too comfortable, sleepwalking through decades of lies and rhetoric.

[lostalex]

Scotland should be like the EU, and just hold a referendum every year until they get the YES result they want.

Isn't that what the EU did to many countries on the Lisbon treaty? especially Ireland. and speaking of Ireland, they should do the same, hold a referendum for joining the rest of the island every year.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Scotland should be like the EU, and just hold a referendum every year until they get the YES result they want.

Isn't that what the EU did to many countries on the Lisbon treaty?

Scotland only got to hold this one because Westminster "allowed it" (which completely baffled China, apparently ). Therein lies part of the reason that Scotland should be independent, of course.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Scotland only got to hold this one because Westminster "allowed it" (which completely baffled China, apparently ). Therein lies part of the reason that Scotland should be independent, of course.

wait, what? what does China have to do with it? is that a reference to Taiwan/Hong Kong/Tibet?

[lostalex]

As an American I wish Texas and the rest of the south would have such a referendum and leave the US.

The civil war was worth it because we could free the slaves, but now i see no reason to keep the south at all. They should form their own ****ed up confederation however they like, and we should put an economic blockade on them just like Cuba.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Well yes, until next time. Scotland was torn to shreds by Thatcher and the end of Thatcherism was a given, and yet here we are again... living with a number of policies that Thatcher herself shied away from in the 80's. Labour is likely to come into power right on top of the latest Tory economic illusion, which will then pop spectacularly... Tories then blame Labour because they were in power when this happened... and so the pendulum swings back to them only with even more reasoning and ammunition to justify horrendous political decisions.

That's not a given, we don't have a crystal ball and what ifs are not a good enough basis to cut away from the union.

[joeysteele]

I see there is a signed pledge of extra powers from all 3 main party leaders today if Scotland votes 'no'.

Powers that are not yet agreed on, excpet in that more powers should be given to Scotland.
That is actually quite insulting to the Scots,not to be able to detail in full exactly what and when will be transferred to them.

Also I would think near all voters should know and remember how meaningless signed pledges are from Nick Clegg particularly.