[Jords]

Possibly an excuse, but who knows

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah, I agree with that alright. The sing off itself seems pretty pointless to me, I mean they should either base it completely on the sing off or just not waste theirs (or the acts) time and energy on it.

Yep. I'm sure we've all watched sing offs where we've heard the judges saying "Decision has to be based on this performance alone...so on that basis..... " Like all these shows though: highly manipulated - but again: those who take part in it, will almost certainly know this is the way it works.


Better still....leave it as what it's 'supposed to be'.... the public votes actually counting .... in full. Chances of that ever happening from the start of the show - zero, unfortunately.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Yep. I'm sure we've all watched sing offs where we've heard the judges saying "Decision has to be based on this performance alone...so on that basis..... " Like all these shows though: highly manipulated - but again: those who take part in it, will almost certainly know this is the way it works.


Better still....leave it as what it's 'supposed to be'.... the public votes actually counting .... in full. Chances of that ever happening from the start of the show - zero, unfortunately.

Yeah, I'd bet my life on the judges actually being told who to vote for anyway to be quite honest. One of these days I'm going to actually stop watching it instead of whinging about how fixed and manipulated it is I was almost there this year too!

[MusicXian]

Problem is every year you will get a fave to keep you watching and I don't mind a bet on it either

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah, I'd bet my life on the judges actually being told who to vote for anyway to be quite honest. One of these days I'm going to actually stop watching it instead of whinging about how fixed and manipulated it is I was almost there this year too!

For sure. Mr Cowell is still pulling the strings, they are merely employees!

Ach, we all know the way it works, us all moaning about it, well, we're only saying what everyone else thinks !!

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MusicXian

Problem is every year you will get a fave to keep you watching and I don't mind a bet on it either

The cast it out, we bite, and then they reel us in.

Hook, line and sinker.

[Vicky.]

I actually stopped watching after they pulled the double elimination to get frankie out...it failed so they kicked him out anyway(I know that wasnt the 'official story though, but its clear as crystal to me ). Not necessarily because I liked Frankie, but just because of how off the whole situation was...

Its always been fixed to an extent, but this year it has been more blatant than ever.

I watch if its on, but I dont make a point of watching like I used to, and no WAY would I ever vote. There isnt really much point.

[Mystic Mock]

The most fixed X Factor was last year imo,even down to who made the final out of Cher and Mary.

Anyway I believe Janet probably was feeling sick as she looked nervous as hell.

[robb]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

She hasn't argued the point on This Morning show,in fact she agreed she forgot the words.

That's a long way from what was said over the weekend. It will be interesting to see what is said much later when the show is well finished for this year,they do get tied up with all sorts of things they can't say or not do until the tour is over so maybe we will never get an answer to this really now.

I still go with the 'she felt she was likely going to be sick' as that is what she said herself 'live' before anyone got to her.I am near sure if she felt she was really going to be sick anyway then the words to the song would have gone out of her mind totally.

I think she is a great talent and a great find too however it's more evidence of how the X Factor shows and themed weeks actually bring out the worst of the acts rather than concentrate on their best. Making singers sing songs they wouldn't touch in a million years normally is not bringing out their best it's stifling their best.

And in the end it 'did ' for her, with a little help from the running order (always on as the first girl) and the biased judges who put her on a pedestal and then proceeded to knock her down. Barlow and Tulisa are just as culpable as Kelly in that respect.No question she looked more unhappy as the weeks went by, but she pulled out a blinder in the sing off. THAT TOO, WAS MAINLY IGNORED.....gotta have Misha B IN THE FINAL, YOU SEE.....