[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Enid

No, but SoBig did.

And why should I? I just proved people are too quick to judge.

Oh, she has a difference of opinion! Quick! Lets brand her a racist before I even hear what she has to say!

This is no place to have an intelligent discussion so I'll leave it there.

Do you not think it a bit hypocritical to criticise someone for being too quick to judge when your first post here accused people of using the word racism "to make themselves feel better than they actually are"? You didn't exactly foster much intelligent discussion yourself with that post

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Do you not think it a bit hypocritical to criticise someone for being too quick to judge when your first post here accused people of using the word racism "to make themselves feel better than they actually are"? You didn't exactly foster much intelligent discussion yourself with that post

[lostalex]

The fact that you all can't even agree on races. can someone please provide a list of the so-called "races" please?

What race am i? What race are you? IS english a race? british? European? White? what is race.

Someone please give me a list of these so called "races", cause i don't even know what "race" i am. I'd like to have a list to choose from, i guess race is a choice now?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by lostalex

The fact that you all can't even agree on races. can someone please provide a list of the so-called "races" please?

What race am i? What race are you? IS english a race? british? European? White? what is race.

Someone please give me a list of these so called "races", cause i don't even know what "race" i am. I'd like to have a list to choose from, i guess race is a choice now?

This should help you along the way in your quest for information.


*General Warning. Contains big words*

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Snowball

This should help you along the way in your quest for information.


*General Warning. Contains big words*

"Race is classification of humans into large and distinct populations or groups by factors such as heritable phenotypic characteristics or geographic ancestry, but also often influenced by and correlated with traits such as appearance, culture, ethnicity, and socio-economic status."


Wow, that REALLY narrows it down....

Thank you for proving my point.

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by lostalex

The fact that you all can't even agree on races. can someone please provide a list of the so-called "races" please?

What race am i? What race are you? IS english a race? british? European? White? what is race.

Someone please give me a list of these so called "races", cause i don't even know what "race" i am. I'd like to have a list to choose from, i guess race is a choice now?

English? No.
British? No.
European? No.
White? Yes.

There are nationalities, ethnicity and races.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by lostalex

"Race is classification of humans into large and distinct populations or groups by factors such as heritable phenotypic characteristics or geographic ancestry, but also often influenced by and correlated with traits such as appearance, culture, ethnicity, and socio-economic status."


Wow, that REALLY narrows it down....

Thank you for proving my point.

Which point would that have been exactly? It's so hard to keep up at times.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by SoBig

English? No.
British? No.
European? No.
White? Yes.

There are nationalities, ethnicity and races.

there are not concrete nationalities, ethnicities or races. sorry, but it's just false.

Jersey Shore? are they Italian? are they White? are they American?

It's all stupid choices to segregate yourself.

If you believe you have a race than you are voluntarily participating in segregation.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Snowball

Which point would that have been exactly? It's so hard to keep up at times.

My point that there is no such thing as definitive "races".

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by lostalex

"Race is classification of humans into large and distinct populations or groups by factors such as heritable phenotypic characteristics or geographic ancestry, but also often influenced by and correlated with traits such as appearance, culture, ethnicity, and socio-economic status."


Wow, that REALLY narrows it down....

Thank you for proving my point.

One thing I do agree with you is the whole race thing is bs. Race is something man came up with to separate people in groups.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by SoBig

lol dude you crack me up.

Again let me post this.


So if a black person says, "I hate that bleeping white cracker." "I hope all white people are exterminated off the face of this earth." Then he goes on a shooting spree and kills every white person that he sees.

That isn't racist according to you? Since racism doesn't exists.

Lost Alex..... what's your answer to this question that was asked?

[Enid]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Do you not think it a bit hypocritical to criticise someone for being too quick to judge when your first post here accused people of using the word racism "to make themselves feel better than they actually are"? You didn't exactly foster much intelligent discussion yourself with that post

Nah. Know why? Nobody jumped on the "black people > white people" comment. Although it was most likely said in jest, that's beside the point. Grimnir was likely trying to provoke a reaction and he received a very typical response.

Also lostalex, just know we all came from Africa once upon a time. Some of us just decided we were sick of living in mud huts and making a bajillion babies we were unable to feed.

Hohoho that'll get their mouths foaming.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Snowball

Lost Alex..... what's your answer to this question that was asked?

My answer is that it's not racist. Anyone that hateful would find any excuse to be violent, and the illusion of racism is just what he used. Anyone who would kill anyone is clearly a psychopath, and trying to justify murder by race is just as psychotic as the person capable of murder.

Murder is dispicable, and the inculsion of race into the conversation is just media sensationalism.

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by lostalex

there are not concrete nationalities, ethnicities or races. sorry, but it's just false.

Jersey Shore? are they Italian? are they White? are they American?

It's all stupid choices to segregate yourself.

If you believe you have a race than you are voluntarily participating in segregation.

Yes they are Italian American. Thats their ethnicity.

Yes, they are white. Thats their race.

Yes, they are American. Thats their nationality.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by SoBig

Yes they are Italian American. Thats their ethnicity.

Yes, they are white. Thats their race.

Yes, they are American. Thats their nationality.

white is a race? So then why is it called "racism" when people discriminate against Mexicans? Mexico is a majority WHITE european race country, but it's called racism if you don't like mexicans.

explain that to me.

or when the Nazi's killed the jews. the jews were white, but it's called racism...???

or when south africans kill zimbaweans, they are both black, but it's called racism...

i don't understand.

[Enid]

Originally Posted by lostalex

white is a race? So then why is it called "racism" when people discriminate against Mexicans? Mexico is a majority WHITE european race country, but it's called racism if you don't like mexicans.

explain that to me.

or when the Nazi's killed the jews. the jews were white, but it's called racism...???

or when south africans kill zimbaweans, they are both black, but it's called racism...

i don't understand.

It wasn't just the Jews Nazis disliked.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by lostalex

My point that there is no such thing as definitive "races".

here's a bit more from the link I provided you with. Some of it pertains to your own homeland so hopefully that will provide you with some answers closer to home. It even provides pictures to make it so much easier.

You'll note that the British Police don't just band folk into 4 classifications.

In law enforcement


In the U.S., the FBIidentifies fugitives to categories they define as sex, physical features, occupation, nationality, and race.


From left to right, the FBI assigns the above individuals to the following races: White, Black, White (Hispanic), Asian. Top row males, bottom row females.[122]




Main article: Racial profiling
See also: Race and crime and Race and crime in the United States
In an attempt to provide general descriptions that may facilitate the job of law enforcement officers seeking to apprehend suspects, the United States FBI employs the term "race" to summarize the general appearance (skin color, hair texture, eye shape, and other such easily noticed characteristics) of individuals whom they are attempting to apprehend.

From the perspective of law enforcement officers, it is generally more important to arrive at a description that will readily suggest the general appearance of an individual than to make a scientifically valid categorization by DNA or other such means.

Thus, in addition to assigning a wanted individual to a racial category, such a description will include: height, weight, eye color, scars and other distinguishing characteristics.

British Police use a classification based in the ethnic background of British society: W1 (White-British), W2 (White-Irish), W9 (Any other white background); M1 (White and black Caribbean), M2 (White and black African), M3 (White and Asian), M9 (Any other mixed background); A1 (Asian-Indian), A2 (Asian-Pakistani), A3 (Asian-Bangladeshi), A9 (Any other Asian background); B1 (Black Caribbean), B2 (Black African), B3 (Any other black background); O1 (Chinese), O9 (Any other). Some of the characteristics that constitute these groupings are biological and some are learned (cultural, linguistic, etc.) traits that are easy to notice.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Enid

It wasn't just the Jews Nazis disliked.

i never said it was. obviously they killed ******* and disableds and gays etc....

but people do describe anti-semitism as "racism" in the media and general culture quite regularly.

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by lostalex

white is a race? So then why is it called "racism" when people discriminate against Mexicans? Mexico is a majority WHITE european race country, but it's called racism if you don't like mexicans.

explain that to me.

or when the Nazi's killed the jews. the jews were white, but it's called racism...???

or when south africans kill zimbaweans, they are both black, but it's called racism...

i don't understand.

Because you Americans are ignorant. Don't know the difference of race, ethnicity and nationality. Three completely different things.

Most Mexicans have white and Native American ancestry.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i never said it was. obviously they killed ******* and disableds and gays etc....

but people do describe anti-semitism as "racism" in the media and general culture quite regularly.

Deary me.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Snowball

here's a bit more from the link I provided you with. Some of it pertains to your own homeland so hopefully that will provide you with some answers closer to home. It even provides pictures to make it so much easier.

You'll note that the British Police don't just band folk into 4 classifications.

how many classifications do you think is fair?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by SoBig

Because you Americans are ignorant. Don't know the difference of race, ethnicity and nationality. Three completely different things.

Most Mexicans have white and Native American ancestry.

yes, and so do most Americans... so how is it "racist" if an American hates a Mexican??? how is it racist if both are the same "race"?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by SoBig

lol dude you crack me up.

Again let me post this.


So if a black person says, "I hate that bleeping white cracker." "I hope all white people are exterminated off the face of this earth." Then he goes on a shooting spree and kills every white person that he sees.

That isn't racist according to you? Since racism doesn't exists.

Originally Posted by lostalex

My answer is that it's not racist. Anyone that hateful would find any excuse to be violent, and the illusion of racism is just what he used. Anyone who would kill anyone is clearly a psychopath, and trying to justify murder by race is just as psychotic as the person capable of murder.

Murder is dispicable, and the inculsion of race into the conversation is just media sensationalism.

You really are embarrassing yourself now.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Enid

Nah. Know why? Nobody jumped on the "black people > white people" comment. Although it was most likely said in jest, that's beside the point. Grimnir was likely trying to provoke a reaction and he received a very typical response.

Also lostalex, just know we all came from Africa once upon a time. Some of us just decided we were sick of living in mud huts and making a bajillion babies we were unable to feed.

Hohoho that'll get their mouths foaming.

It was certainly in jest, Scott being white and with his well known obsession with black women which I don't really get but each to their own.. having seen some of Grimnir's other posts in this section I have my doubts as to whether he was merely trying to provoke a reaction, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he meant every word. It was reminiscent of some 19th century attitude where people thought it was the white mans duty to "civilise" the heathens in Africa, and he was rebuffed for his post in the same way that the guy in this video was for his idea of exterminating white people.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by lostalex

how many classifications do you think is fair?

I'll go for the British classifications. Seems a whole lot fairer than the one the Americans use - seems to lump the whole world into 4 types.

We are far more diverse than that.