[tonyface]

With clever editing, and use of people like Natalie Cassidy (Use of a supposed trusted face) going around the shows, saying stuff to people who probably were not even watching the series, but might have tuned into the final and voted, it all just proved to me yet again, how you can whip up the people of this country into a Nationalistic Xenophobic frenzy, against people from another country.
Kirk could not even point out where the USA was on a map and yet admitted that he has the dosh to have been there a number of times.........

Most of the dislike of the twins seemed to be due to their alleged relationship with Hugh Heffner, when most people really know that an 85 is hardly likely to be even capable these days.

Confessions of an ex playmate, were maybe referring to the lethario's exploits over 20 years ago.

The other thing used against them was that Karissa had made a sex tape, with her boyfriend, well I have not seen it and are hardly ever likely to, but I have had sex with my partner and I liked it......so what is the big crime there or was it because he was black....

[Cherie]

I do believe there was a concerted effort on BOTs and in the Desmond owned media to show them and Michael in a bad light, ...it was very similar to the type of bad editing and lack of support Aaron received ...in Aarons case it turned into votes as it put peoples backs up rather than turned them towards Jay or Alex, but in the Twins case, the old national rivalries were aired, and spurred on by the likes of Pete Burns, they didnt get it, they didnt get us, they shouldnt even be here, it should be British celebs, its a British institution, once it became a Britain v America final, it was a fairly pointless exercise voting for the Americans.

[InOne]

Of course they were. Who in their right mind could possibly dislike the twins? They're adorable!

[dathadiguy]

It's because they didn't get their tits out!!

[rusticgal]

Duped into disliking them...??? NO...!!!

[Carniala]

I hope you are joking, right?
The twins are self loathers arrogant beyond belief and they were bi*&hing behind everyone's back at all time. what great people they are!

They represent all the nasty selfish behavior that seem to be the norm in today's society, no respect for anyone, not even themselves, honestly saying they are nice, generous and good housemates or even good role models, give me a break, all they want is money, money, money and the first reflex they have is to ask if they are going to be paid extra for TALKING to someone or doing anything at all.

Typical American behavior, no sense of community or awareness of anything but their belly button.

As for Kirk not knowing where is America, may I remind you that most American have no idea where Canada is! their neighbor, and biggest trade partners (biggest trade partners in the world as well and supplier of 70% of their oil and energy)

So if you want self absorbs and no so clever, do not look further than the twins, with very nasty as a bonus gift.

What's not to like, ho so nice!

[Scotty07]

I clearly haven't been watching the same show as some of the haters, that is all I have to say in this thread.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by CherieB

I do believe there was a concerted effort on BOTs and in the Desmond owned media to show them and Michael in a bad light, ...it was very similar to the type of bad editing and lack of support Aaron received ...in Aarons case it turned into votes as it put peoples backs up rather than turned them towards Jay or Alex, but in the Twins case, the old national rivalries were aired, and spurred on by the likes of Pete Burns, they didnt get it, they didnt get us, they shouldnt even be here, it should be British celebs, its a British institution, once it became a Britain v America final, it was a fairly pointless exercise voting for the Americans.

It wasnt pointless as such because we got them into the finals. Would loved to have seen either of them win but I agree with the Natalie thing and I wouldnt be surprised if she had a lot to do with it. Then many standing up for Denise when she was clearly in the wrong. They were no worse than any of the others in the house and I am glad to say that I voted for them although my majority of votes went to Michael. I do not regret doing this in any way.

[tomflint]

The twins are horrible. end of.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Carniala

I hope you are joking, right?
The twins are self loathers arrogant beyond belief and they were bi*&hing behind everyone's back at all time. what great people they are!

They represent all the nasty selfish behavior that seem to be the norm in today's society, no respect for anyone, not even themselves, honestly saying they are nice, generous and good housemates or even good role models, give me a break, all they want is money, money, money and the first reflex they have is to ask if they are going to be paid extra for TALKING to someone or doing anything at all.

Typical American behavior, no sense of community or awareness of anything but their belly button.

As for Kirk not knowing where is America, may I remind you that most American have no idea where Canada is! their neighbor, and biggest trade partners (biggest trade partners in the world as well and supplier of 70% of their oil and energy)

So if you want self absorbs and no so clever, do not look further than the twins, with very nasty as a bonus gift.

What's not to like, ho so nice!

The house was turned against the twins and Michael by the likes of Natalie, Nicola and Denise. This is proven by the amount of nominations each gained during their stay. They each had 13....so I wonder who "bitched" behind whos back. Natalie only had 1 or two votes, the 1 was enough for the public to get her out. Denise was the main instigator where Michael was concerned, she nominated him in the first lot and then the 2nd and third, he didnt nominate her first of all but did for the 2nd and third. She was a woman scorned imo.

[Marcus.]

the twins are allways thinking there better then everyone ha ha ha

[tonyface]

Originally Posted by Carniala

I hope you are joking, right?
The twins are self loathers arrogant beyond belief and they were bi*&hing behind everyone's back at all time. what great people they are!

They represent all the nasty selfish behavior that seem to be the norm in today's society, no respect for anyone, not even themselves, honestly saying they are nice, generous and good housemates or even good role models, give me a break, all they want is money, money, money and the first reflex they have is to ask if they are going to be paid extra for TALKING to someone or doing anything at all.

Typical American behavior, no sense of community or awareness of anything but their belly button.

As for Kirk not knowing where is America, may I remind you that most American have no idea where Canada is! their neighbor, and biggest trade partners (biggest trade partners in the world as well and supplier of 70% of their oil and energy)

So if you want self absorbs and no so clever, do not look further than the twins, with very nasty as a bonus gift.

What's not to like, ho so nice!

Prejudices, but not many objective observations on their actual behaviour in the house, which quite frankly showed our so called celebrities up.
Kirk & Frankies, constant references to their sexual wishes and desires, and Denise who's behaviour firstly stalking Micheal and then the twins was was positively creepy.

[Jackie]

Originally Posted by Carniala

I hope you are joking, right?
The twins are self loathers arrogant beyond belief and they were bi*&hing behind everyone's back at all time. what great people they are!

They represent all the nasty selfish behavior that seem to be the norm in today's society, no respect for anyone, not even themselves, honestly saying they are nice, generous and good housemates or even good role models, give me a break, all they want is money, money, money and the first reflex they have is to ask if they are going to be paid extra for TALKING to someone or doing anything at all.

Typical American behavior, no sense of community or awareness of anything but their belly button.

As for Kirk not knowing where is America, may I remind you that most American have no idea where Canada is! their neighbor, and biggest trade partners (biggest trade partners in the world as well and supplier of 70% of their oil and energy)

So if you want self absorbs and no so clever, do not look further than the twins, with very nasty as a bonus gift.

What's not to like, ho so nice!

Totally agree

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jules2

It wasnt pointless as such because we got them into the finals. Would loved to have seen either of them win but I agree with the Natalie thing and I wouldnt be surprised if she had a lot to do with it. Then many standing up for Denise when she was clearly in the wrong. They were no worse than any of the others in the house and I am glad to say that I voted for them although my majority of votes went to Michael. I do not regret doing this in any way.

Yes agreed, I could have put it better, I suppose I meant it was pointless from the point of view that once you suggest a nation v nation scenario, it would be very difficult for them no matter how entertaining to come out on top.

[dathadiguy]

Originally Posted by Carniala

I hope you are joking, right?
The twins are self loathers arrogant beyond belief and they were bi*&hing behind everyone's back at all time. what great people they are!
They represent all the nasty selfish behavior that seem to be the norm in today's society, no respect for anyone, not even themselves, honestly saying they are nice, generous and good housemates or even good role models, give me a break, all they want is money, money, money and the first reflex they have is to ask if they are going to be paid extra for TALKING to someone or doing anything at all.

Typical American behavior, no sense of community or awareness of anything but their belly button.

As for Kirk not knowing where is America, may I remind you that most American have no idea where Canada is! their neighbor, and biggest trade partners (biggest trade partners in the world as well and supplier of 70% of their oil and energy)

So if you want self absorbs and no so clever, do not look further than the twins, with very nasty as a bonus gift.

What's not to like, ho so nice!

Originally Posted by Jackie

Totally agree

So none of the other housemates bitched about other housemates or is that just a negative trait exclusively latent in Americans to which the Brits valiantly rose above. At least the Twins and Michael were open about who they disliked. Nice to see you're supporting Natalie btw, that paradigm of goodwill and honesty.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by dathadiguy

So none of the other housemates bitched about other housemates or is that just a negative trait exclusively latent in Americans to which the Brits valiantly rose above. At least the Twins and Michael were open about who they disliked. Nice to see you're supporting Natalie btw, that paradigm of goodwill and honesty.

Hear Hear! They all bitched and like you said atleast the twins weren't sly about it. I read an interview with Natalie in a magazine today where she said "She was robbed" (but she's not arrogant) and also said it hurt her so much when the Twins nominated her, they were calling her aunty Natalie the day before .............excuse me Natalie didn't you nominate them as well?? but they have no feelings? yeah?

[tonyface]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Hear Hear! They all bitched and like you said atleast the twins weren't sly about it. I read an interview with Natalie in a magazine today where she said "She was robbed" (but she's not arrogant) and also said it hurt her so much when the Twins nominated her, they were calling her aunty Natalie the day before .............excuse me Natalie didn't you nominate them as well?? but they have no feelings? yeah?

Great post........I think Natalie has lived in Television land all of her life, being told what a National Treasure she is, and actually believes it so much.

Accussing someone else of arrogance is in itself an act of arrogance because you are implying and working on the assupmtion that you are better than the other person...

[Jords]

Xenophobic... boooooooooooooooring

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by tonyface

Great post........I think Natalie has lived in Television land all of her life, being told what a National Treasure she is, and actually believes it so much.

Accussing someone else of arrogance is in itself an act of arrogance because you are implying and working on the assupmtion that you are better than the other person...

She was also pretty nasty about Georgia in that interview too, attacking her personality, I mean ok she was quiet in there but that's no reason to be so mean is it? Georgia was lucky the twins were in there really, the rest of the HMs were horrible to and about her, when her only crime was being a bit quiet.

[Incensed]

Originally Posted by tonyface

With clever editing, and use of people like Natalie Cassidy (Use of a supposed trusted face) going around the shows, saying stuff to people who probably were not even watching the series, but might have tuned into the final and voted, it all just proved to me yet again, how you can whip up the people of this country into a Nationalistic Xenophobic frenzy, against people from another country.
Kirk could not even point out where the USA was on a map and yet admitted that he has the dosh to have been there a number of times.........

Most of the dislike of the twins seemed to be due to their alleged relationship with Hugh Heffner, when most people really know that an 85 is hardly likely to be even capable these days.

Confessions of an ex playmate, were maybe referring to the lethario's exploits over 20 years ago.

The other thing used against them was that Karissa had made a sex tape, with her boyfriend, well I have not seen it and are hardly ever likely to, but I have had sex with my partner and I liked it......so what is the big crime there or was it because he was black....

O please!!

[vortex]

I dont know, BB can edit the show in any way they want to make some people look good and others bad, even if they didn't it was sad to see a lot xenophobic comments on youtube, facebook and twitter.

[billy123]

Absolutely pathetic why cant you get it into your head that people just didnt like them because of their Arrogance and bitchiness? The accusations from the op asserting that anybody that doesnt like them was duped or is a xenophobe are childish and frankly offensive.

[tonyface]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Absolutely pathetic why cant you get it into your head that people just didnt like them because of their Arrogance and bitchiness? The accusations from the op asserting that anybody that doesnt like them was duped or is a xenophobe are childish and frankly offensive.

I was merely asking the question if anyone felt that some people had acted like the people in your signature photo, apparently quite a few people on here and on DS do.

[WozMan]

I get why the twins were entertaining. One question though. What makes them good people?

[WozMan]

So no one actually likes the twins as people then? Glad we're all agreed on that :-)