[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by redbear

Honestly, I think the internet psychologist stuff is a bit excessive. Some people are just complete and utter dicks with no redeeming qualities. She talking about everybody at an ashram hating her and saying she had ruined their holiday, she wasn't remorseful or troubled by their reactions. She seemed positively gleeful.
Again, some people are just not very nice. Being a bad person isn't a diagnosable disorder.

Yep!

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by redbear

Honestly, I think the internet psychologist stuff is a bit excessive. Some people are just complete and utter dicks with no redeeming qualities. She talking about everybody at an ashram hating her and saying she had ruined their holiday, she wasn't remorseful or troubled by their reactions. She seemed positively gleeful.
Again, some people are just not very nice. Being a bad person isn't a diagnosable disorder.

What your calling her glee, I'm calling her breakdown. And sometimes not showing remorse and displaying unsocially acceptable behavior can be diagnosable and they are red flags that may point to several disorders

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by WozMan

Caroline is in the middle of a fricking BREAKDOWN people!!!

And Brian and BOTS TRIED to ask her to explain herself but she just spouted gibberish. I really do love Helen for talking her down a bit and showing her a bit of love. I REALLY DO THINK SHE IS A SUICIDE RISK!!!! She REALLY needs psychological help ASAP!!

i agree ive been sayingit for a while. wait till she speaks to her parents who arn't happy. she will be even worst luckily we dont have to see it.
she needs a shrink she;s defentially heading for meltdown, though now she's out she may calm down. crazy girl

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by Mokkajava

What your calling her glee, I'm calling her breakdown. And sometimes not showing remorse and displaying unsocially acceptable behavior can be diagnosable and they are red flags that may point to several disorders

Everything can point to a disorder. Caroline is capable of empathy as shown by her crying when Scott suffered a bereavement of some form. She bitches and doesn't care because she thinks she's better than those she has bitched about. She's clearly not been through the criminal justice system so her socially unacceptable behaviour is not linked to a conduct disorder, and she's not on the autism spectrum. Hence, no diagnosis. Stop medicalising everything. She's just nasty, and whether she ever decides to change is completely up to her.

[MarcusLloydAK]

Originally Posted by Munchkins

Helen love

Emma should host evictions
Alice BOTS Monday-Friday
Helen on Weekends

I agree with this!! Emma would probably be the next best thing after Davina, and Brian is not doing a good job!

[MarcusLloydAK]

And I don\t get why she was laughing at the names of the people who asked her comments. TBH I feel sorry for her in a way, as I think she's privy to her life being ruined.

[sampvt]

I love it when the door opens and out pops a dick. This usually allows all the armchair trick cyclists to offer their opinions ranging from ahad, suicidal and metally deranged. She is simply a spoilt brat who has never had to face concequences from her nasty little traits and views the world as a place full of insignificant fools that are deranged if they dare to challenge her. She dosent need a phyco evaluation, she needs some tough love and a slap on that larger than life arse of hers. She is a prime candidate for Bootcamp.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I love it when the door opens and out pops a dick.

Whatever you get up to in your spare time is your business and should be kept private.
I really don't think we want to be hearing your Glory Hole exploits Sam!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by gravity

Caroline is funny

Not nice to laugh at someone who obviously is not 100% all there.

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Not nice to laugh at someone who obviously is not 100% all there.

It's just her heart missing Kazanne. Her mental faculties aren't impaired. She managed to quite coherently tear into every other "stupid" person in the house. She's blubbered her way through eviction as she did when she got the warning and she'll be slating everyone again by lunchtime today.

[exoticrosebud]

..this is what i love about this site.......no one is entitled to an opinion...if you dare express one......you are slaughtered........there are the chosen ones that rule however!

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by gravity

How do you know her father is a doctor? Just curious? Link please lol

I heard that on one of the programmes - Father a doctor - Mother a pharmacologist

[Kizzy]

Helen did a really good job caroline was acting very irrationally.
I agree she will deffo need a psychological assessment following BB, her interview with brian was cringeworthy he looked terrified of her haha!

[Marc]

She's just childish

[Slevin]

Originally Posted by bobnot

I dont think anyone wants to see her destroyed but at the same time she should also be forced as an adult to confront the consequences of her own actions for once in her life.

I hope she uses this mess in the right way and is forced to grow up instead of being thrown the pity card and let off scot free that wont achieve anything or help her in anyway.

Her behaviour was a disgrace and allowing her to get away with it all her life is just as bad.

eh some probably do. saying that people that like Adam and Luke A are deluded didnt help lol. that girl needs some help.

[Tregard]

"OnehundredmillionpercentcertainIwasgoing,lovelych ocolateohmygodIjustdon'tcareanymorebyebyeseeyalatt a"

-Every response from Caroline

[ransom]

What a mess. So glad she has gone.

[WozMan]

Originally Posted by exoticrosebud

..this is what i love about this site.......no one is entitled to an opinion...if you dare express one......you are slaughtered........there are the chosen ones that rule however!

I don't mind people coming down hard on my opinion. This is an internet forum. People are entitled to think Caroline is merely a 'bad person.' Such reasoning is fine for people who do not work in the caring professions and simply have to decide whether they want such a person in their lives. I certainly know AS IS I would not want to associate with Caroline socially.

However I DO work in the caring profession and as such empathy and understanding are key traits/skills. So I will say she needs help and possibly meet her in the future and others can say she needs dipping in a volcano and be on their merry.

I am also very worried she will NOT get proper help because her parents may well think help = medication. This is fine for many medical problems but very rarely true for many mental health issues.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Whatever you get up to in your spare time is your business and should be kept private.
I really don't think we want to be hearing your Glory Hole exploits Sam!

Reading isnt your strong point if you decide to slag me off again girl.....DICK AS IN THE CONTEXT OF THE PIECE REFERS TO A DETECTIVE. NOW GO AND CHERRY PICK SOMEONE ELSE, Your constant poking fun at me isnt clever anymore.

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by WozMan

I don't mind people coming down hard on my opinion. This is an internet forum. People are entitled to think Caroline is merely a 'bad person.' Such reasoning is fine for people who do not work in the caring professions and simply have to decide whether they want such a person in their lives. I certainly know AS IS I would not want to associate with Caroline socially.

However I DO work in the caring profession and as such empathy and understanding are key traits/skills. So I will say she needs help and possibly meet her in the future and others can say she needs dipping in a volcano and be on their merry.

I am also very worried she will NOT get proper help because her parents may well think help = medication. This is fine for many medical problems but very rarely true for many mental health issues.

She suffers from no mental illness. There may be intra and interpersonal difficulties intrinsic to her personality, but there is no mental illness. And she will only change when she is ready to do so. She clearly is not at present. Plus empathy and understanding are not the sole remit of healthcare professionals. Many have little and many go tov far the other way, as in all walks of life.

[WozMan]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

She suffers from no mental illness. There may be intra and interpersonal difficulties intrinsic to her personality, but there is no mental illness. And she will only change when she is ready to do so. She clearly is not at present. Plus empathy and understanding are not the sole remit of healthcare professionals. Many have little and many go tov far the other way, as in all walks of life.

Yes there are many professionals who see it solely as a job rather than a vocation and that saddens me. Of course empathy and understanding are general human traits and not the sole remit of ANY group.

You are entitled to believe Caroline has no mental illness. I am entitled catagorically disagree. Which I do. I peronally believe there is no such thing as a happy bitch or a happy murderer. People do nasty things because they are miserable and don't know how to cope with the stresses in their lives.

Moreso than any strictly 'physical' illness mental health has very blurry edges and most people experience states which could be interpreted as being 'mentally ill'.

[EzzaB]

Caroline is ****ed up!
Love Helen!

[Gizmo]

I would have thought that after Aaron's comments about three attempted suicides after last year's series, BB would have to be seen to take after-show care more seriously.

[WozMan]

Originally Posted by Gizmo

I would have thought that after Aaron's comments about three attempted suicides after last year's series, BB would have to be seen to take after-show care more seriously.

when was this?

[Gizmo]

Originally Posted by WozMan

when was this?

Just before BB 13 started.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...annel-5-862534

Just seen this about Sheivonne....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...de-remark.html

Mind you this is the Daily Mail so who knows what the truth is!