Politics talk, who was right?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I have talked about politics a lot to people who will talk about politics generally but not get into how they vote are want to delve too deeply into why they voted a certian way or hold the views they have.
At present, I find very few people who will even admit to voting Liberal Democrat for instance but still hold strong views on politics.
I personally wouldn't press them on that as much as Deana did with Sara, as I said she was likely just trying to understand why Sara had those views or came to get them but once Sara said she didn't want to go into that, Deana should have held back.

She should also know too that to get some logic from Sara is a pretty hard thing to achieve anyway.

While I understand your point, the problem I have with it, is that from what I can gather, Sara was the one who started talking about politics and telling everyone for an hour about how opinionated she is about them, but then she refuses to share what her opinions actually are? Why talk for that long on a subject that you're apparently opinionated about but then freak out when someone asks you to share those opinions? Surely if you didn't really want to share your opinions you wouldn't have brought up the topic in the first place

Sara seems to like talking but not having a discussion. A discussion involves more than one person.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Sara wasn't right, but she was drunk and getting confused and Deana should have just dropped it

Sara - don't take much to get her drunk ! drink or not she's always confused - she has not been able to string one sentence together since she arrived !! Best not to get into debates when you are as thick as she is !!

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

While I understand your point, the problem I have with it, is that from what I can gather, Sara was the one who started talking about politics and telling everyone for an hour about how opinionated she is about them, but then she refuses to share what her opinions actually are? Why talk for that long on a subject that you're apparently opinionated about but then freak out when someone asks you to share those opinions? Surely if you didn't really want to share your opinions you wouldn't have brought up the topic in the first place

Sara seems to like talking but not having a discussion. A discussion involves more than one person.

I think you have highlighted the problem exactly, Sara likes to say things but doesn't want then to be challenged as to them or maybe have to discuss a possible alternative view, sadly with politics there are a lot of people like that.

She did say for instance she saw good things in all the parties but Deana kept pressing to find out who she had voted for at the last election,to which Sara eventually stated Conservative,then Deana pressed further as to why she did.

I do know a lot of people who will happily discuss politics but never want to reveal who they voted for or why. As much as I would like to know how they did, if they weren't willing to volunteer that information,I have no right to press for them to say so,I should respect that is between them and the ballot box.

[Munchkins]

I'm loving the results of this poll

[MrWong]

Remember how the royal family / Queen chat went?

Sara ranting over everyone, no opposing views allowed.

This was very similar.

[Gizmo]

Sara doesn't listen when she wants to put her point of view across. She talks at people rather than with them. This puts me off listening to what she's got to say and weakens her arguement.

[glasstangerine]

What. The. ****.
Seriously? Deana just asked if Sara would ever be a vegetarian and Sara acted like Deana asked if she would ever slit her own mother's throat.

Sara you are really too much. Just because you are pretty and spoiled doesn't mean it's anyone elses' job to kiss your ass.

I'm off her.

[Marcus.]

deana

[erinp5]

Sara was speaking about politics for 56mins when Deana questioned some of her statements Sara didnt want to speak about.... politics! Sara gets very loud and a little aggressive when she has had a few beverages.

[Becker]

Sara is useless

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Blackeye

First post here hope you don't mind me jumping in. Sara was drunk and hadn't a clue what she was talking about but Deana kept kept winding her up trying to show her up. Another game play from Deana gone unnoticed.

Totally agree Blackeye and welcome to the forums xx

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I am in a big minority here but I would have sided with Sara, for 2 reasons, the first being that she said she watched politics,that doesn't mean however she has a great understanding of all the parties stand for, so for Deana to keep pushing her when she said she didn't want to get into depth on it was in my view wrong of Deana.

Secondly,it may have been that Sara realised Deana likely could have a good knowledge of politics so that was the reason she didn't want to go into things too much because she knew she hadn't the in depth knowledge.

On Deana's side of course, she probably only wanted to try to understand why Sara had voted the way she had, what was the things that made her decide to vote Conservative.
If someone though says,they don't want to discuss too deeply a subject then others should respect that.

I totally agree joeysteele and if you read through all the forums the majority of people like Sara so overall you're not in the minority

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by BigBrother3232

Week like 2ish? Caroline had to make out that she was some made up character from the royal family, despite Sara 'loving' the royal family, she absolutely believed and had heard of Carolines made up character!?
She just talks about what she thinks viewers wants to hear.
Hate to say this, cos I've always been a fan. She is a massive blimming fake. MASSIVE.

I dont think you have alwasy been a fan BigBrother3232

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by rionablue

I totally agree joeysteele and if you read through all the forums the majority of people like Sara so overall you're not in the minority

Agreed! That's why i chose Sara!

[boomoo]

Originally Posted by Blackeye

Don't like Deana, don't like Sara. Not bothered about any of them frankly. Wish they would change the whole format or stick with talking about Noms so they can play it as the game it is. That would do away with the pretendy stuff. Miss the innocence of the first few years and the Rules of the original Big Brother.

The trouble is the housemates now have studied how others have won. This is the reason we always have to watch a faux-mance.