[jet]

After what started out as one of the best BB has ended up with one of the worst finals. Much as I like Adam, Luke A, Luke S and Sara, they could never be described as 'entertaining' in the true sense of the word nor will any of them go down in BB history as one of the 'greats'.
As for Deana, who I dislike, if she wins it will be by default. Conor started the ball rolling for her and got her noticed so that every slight against her from then on had her marked as a poor victim and gained her a devoted fanbase. Some people don't like to think they are wrong so no matter how she conducted herself after that they block it out, justify her behaviour and vote vote vote to prove they were not mistaken about her. But without that story, she was really a boring, lazy HM who just happened to get the spotlight centred around her. So again, not a 'great' HM in her own right, and as I said before, is in the final by default.
'If only' are sad words - but if only Lauren, or Benedict, or Lydia, or Chris or Arron for example had been given the chance to show us more of who they were and had gone much further we would have had a final worthy of the promise of the launch.
Out of the ones we have left, the best of the bunch - Scott - has gone. To me, he was the only one left who deserved to win - and he came out to rapturous cheers. While others still in the house are booed!!! The whole thing is skewed, and a total farce....
Instead of taking it week by week and evaluating the HM's people seem to latch on to one person and stick to them stubbornly and justify their actions no matter what they are. That's human nature, I suppose, but it doesn't give us a true and worthy winner who really DESERVES it.

[Jimrod]

Conor didn't deserve to walk away with £50k just because the producers had their favourites either but **** happens.

[Lwize]

As long as an outsider wins, I'm good.

I project it'll be:

5. Luke S
4. Sara
3. Adam
2. Deana
1. Luke A

The producers screwed up by allowing nom discussions, leading to alliances, then trying to stop the runaway train. An "Us vs Them" series was set in motion, so a conclusion featuring one group or the other was inevitable. Voters went with the outsiders as the insiders imploded (or walked with £50K).

[Munchkins]

Brilliant series which will end perfectly if Deana wins

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by jet

After what started out as one of the best BB has ended up with one of the worst finals. Much as I like Adam, Luke A, Luke S and Sara, they could never be described as 'entertaining' in the true sense of word nor will any of them go down in BB history as one of the 'greats'.
As for Deana, who I dislike, if she wins it will be by default. Conor started the ball rolling for her and got her noticed so that every slight against her from then on had her marked as a poor victim and gained her a devoted fanbase. Some people don't like to think they are wrong so no matter how she conducted herself after that they block it out, justify her behaviour and vote vote vote to prove they were not mistaken about her. But without that story, she was really a boring, lazy HM who just happened to get the spotlight centred around her. So again, not a 'great' HM in her own right, and as I said before, is in the final by default.
'If only' are sad words - but if only Lauren, or Benedict, or Lydia, or Chris or Arron for example had been given the chance to show us more of who they were and had gone much further we would have had a final worthy of the promise of the launch.
Out of the ones we have left, the best of the bunch - Scott - has gone. To me, he was the only one left who deserved to win - and he came out to rapturous cheers. While others still in the house are booed!!! The whole thing is skewed, and a total farce....
Instead of taking it week by week and evaluating the HM's people seem to latch on to one person and stick to them stubbornly and justify their actions no matter what they are. That's human nature, I suppose, but it doesn't give us a true and worthy winner who really DESERVES it.

I read this and wondered if I could add anything to it, I couldn't, you have said it all really, I do completely agree with all you have said.
Really great post.

[Me. I Am Salman]

ffs there are so many of these threads, couldn't you just post this in one of the other ones

[jet]

Originally Posted by Jimrod

Conor didn't deserve to walk away with £50k just because the producers had their favourites either but **** happens.

Totally agree. But people didn't vote for him to walk away with the 50k, did they.
I bet if he had stayed, he would be in the final. People would have gone for a Deana/Conor stand off. BB voting has become skewed and twisted - it is no longer about the most entertaining or deserving winner, it is about taking sides no matter what. The whole essence and purpose of BB has been lost somehow. Sad, sad, sad.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Salman!

ffs there are so many of these threads, couldn't you just post this in one of the other ones

This.

The forum is full of people moaning about everything lol

[reece(:]

Stop moaning and get over it, it's the best finale of BB. Period.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by Munchkins

Brilliant series which will end perfectly if Deana wins

Yep as long as a manipulative, duplicitous, overprivileged princess who has servants and treats her friends like her staff wins, then the series will be a success

If she wins it will be the worst result since Denise won CBB

[jet]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I read this and wondered if I could add anything to it, I couldn't, you have said it all really, I do completely agree with all you have said.
Really great post.

Thank you. I feel really strongly about this, so your words mean a lot.

[Brother Leon]

Adam getting to the final is amazing. Just a shame we get to miss out on the epic ending that is Conor beating Deana to the 100k which was a certainty almost.

[halfacrown]

Deana, or any of the others, will only win if they are the most popular with the public: fact. Apart from cheating and lying his way to £50K, Conor will be remembered for his vile comments about Deana. Instead of walking, Conor could have been true to his word and tried to win BB by staying, but he clearly didn't think he could do it.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Lwize

As long as an outsider wins, I'm good.

I project it'll be:

5. Luke S
4. Sara
3. Adam
2. Deana
1. Luke A

The producers screwed up by allowing nom discussions, leading to alliances, then trying to stop the runaway train. An "Us vs Them" series was set in motion, so a conclusion featuring one group or the other was inevitable. Voters went with the outsiders as the insiders imploded (or walked with £50K).

I see what you mean, but people complain of HM's being like 'sheep' when they may behave like sheep themselves and let themselves be led by the nose. Why would they let themselves have to choose between 'outsiders' or 'insiders' or for that matter 'Individuals' like Scott and Sara (I would never call them 'floaters' as not everyone wants to conform to a particular group).
I look at every HM individually, no matter what 'group' they belong to.
The producers didn't screw up - some of the viewers did if they let themselves follow and vote for the members of a particular group regardless of whether they liked them as individuals or not. That is not what BB should be about, is it?

[jyunga]

How do you even define the 'most deserving' winner? Different types of viewers are entertained by different types of HMs. Someone you think should get the money for how they acted might have been annoying as hell to someone else.

[jyunga]

How do you even define the 'most deserving' winner? Different types of viewers are entertained by different types of HMs. Someone you think should get the money for how they acted might have been annoying as hell to someone else.

[jet]

Originally Posted by jyunga

How do you even define the 'most deserving' winner? Different types of viewers are entertained by different types of HMs. Someone you think should get the money for how they acted might have been annoying as hell to someone else.

That's a very good point. But one thing BB viewers have always went for is consistency of personality...it was the one thing they never compromised on.
Until now... with Deana.

This is the first time I've ever considered we might get a winner by 'default' of purely sympathy votes which stem in many cases from just being stubborn and not wanting to back down.
Oh well. It's only once in the history of BB, and it will be remembered as such.

[jet]

Originally Posted by halfacrown

Deana, or any of the others, will only win if they are the most popular with the public: fact. Apart from cheating and lying his way to £50K, Conor will be remembered for his vile comments about Deana. Instead of walking, Conor could have been true to his word and tried to win BB by staying, but he clearly didn't think he could do it.

Yes, Conor will be remembered for being vile and a cheat, and rightly so.

Deana will be remembered for being the recipient of Conor's vile rant and gaining huge sympathy votes no matter what her subsequent negative actions were... and not gaining votes purely on her own merit.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Jords

This.

The forum is full of people moaning about everything lol

Or those who just post rude comments instead of replying intelligently to the OP's comments or just passing on it and moving on if they prefer.

[toronto_matt]

gonna be an AMAZINGGGGGGG FINAL!

[Pauline Wilson]

Personally I think the vote to save has ruined this series. Vote to evict is deeply ingrained in the shows format and the VTS is nothing more than an economical equation invented by the producers to get more votes. Every year the public vote off the biggest charachters and it ruins the show. This year was no exception. One thing I find amusing is that when we evict a real baddie, within 3 days everyone loves them on the outside. Casing example this year was chris, bendict and aaron. All hated but now we all want them back in.

[waterhog]

Originally Posted by Lwize

As long as an outsider wins, I'm good.

I project it'll be:

5. Luke S
4. Sara
3. Adam
2. Deana
1. Luke A

The producers screwed up by allowing nom discussions, leading to alliances, then trying to stop the runaway train. An "Us vs Them" series was set in motion, so a conclusion featuring one group or the other was inevitable. Voters went with the outsiders as the insiders imploded (or walked with £50K).

love your prediction - same as mine.

[realitytvsux]

I don't think it's been an anti climax at all. It's been pretty exciting all the way through, including this week. It's been one long bitch fest both in and outside of the house. O what fun

[Maia]

Originally Posted by RodHull

Yep as long as a manipulative, duplicitous, overprivileged princess who has servants and treats her friends like her staff wins, then the series will be a success

If she wins it will be the worst result since Denise won CBB

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by RodHull

Yep as long as a manipulative, duplicitous, overprivileged princess who has servants and treats her friends like her staff wins, then the series will be a success

If she wins it will be the worst result since Denise won CBB

Like Mollie, I agree with you as to this too.