[reece(:]

Originally Posted by JH95

The smilies to every post made against my argument really backs others opinions up...

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by reece(:

never said Jasmine is beautiful etc. Usual words being put in my mouth. All three are as bad as each other with too much makeup and all three are far from stunning with the fakery pounded on. False assumptions as per

So why just target one?

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by reece(:

The smilies to every post made against my argument really backs others opinions up...

I've used it in the way you've described once... so yeah.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by JH95

So why just target one?

the post stated a particular HM and I replied about that post made about that HM.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by reece(:

the post stated a particular HM and I replied about that post made about that HM.

So if you think the same about a HM you support and that factor about them doesn't bother you, why comment on the fact that Rhian wears makeup?

[reece(:]

what are you on about the factor not bothering me, I've clearly stated in the thread all 3 have horridly abused makeup, I still like Jas as a housemate and don't like the others. My opinion won't change so we will have to agree to disagree as this debate is just a continuous roundabout.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by reece(:

what are you on about the factor not bothering me, I've clearly stated in the thread all 3 have horridly abused makeup, I still like Jas as a housemate and don't like the others. My opinion won't change so we will have to agree to disagree as this debate is just a continuous roundabout.

You wouldn't bring up the fact that Jasmine wears makeup is bad in another thread (if you have, please correct me). You are using the fact that Rhian wears makeup as another 'reason' or 'excuse' to dislike her, which doesn't make sense to me. But yeah, we will have to.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by reece(:

never said Jasmine is beautiful etc. Usual words being put in my mouth. All three are as bad as each other with too much makeup and all three are far from stunning with the fakery pounded on. False assumptions as per

Nice way to dodge my other points that you cant argue... expertly done there

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by JH95

You wouldn't bring up the fact that Jasmine wears makeup is bad in another thread (if you have, please correct me). You are using the fact that Rhian wears makeup as another 'reason' or 'excuse' to dislike her, which doesn't make sense to me. But yeah, we will have to.

I haven't mentioned makeup on any HM in any other threads at all so maybe that's why???

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by RodHull

Nice way to dodge my other points that you cant argue... expertly done there

no point wasting my time writing paragraph upon paragraph for no reason fighting my part, the line is made. I'm on one side and you the other, nothing's going to change.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by reece(:

I haven't mentioned makeup on any HM in any other threads at all so maybe that's why???

But do you see my point? It was only when someone in this thread said that Jasmine also uses makeup that you said she overuses it as well. You were happy enough to use it as a negative for Rhian, but clearly in Jasmine's case, it isn't important?

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by reece(:

no point wasting my time writing paragraph upon paragraph for no reason fighting my part, the line is made. I'm on one side and you the other, nothing's going to change.

Im willing to change my mind if you can prove how they were vicious to anyone... something you have said repeatedly in this thread without a shred of evidence, not even bad biased evidence.

You made the thread dont try to make out Im here harassing you. You wanted to know what people thought of them, I told you and asked in reply for you to explain how you can support Jas if you dislike these sorts of character traits.

Simple enough request I think.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by JH95

But do you see my point? It was only when someone in this thread said that Jasmine also uses makeup that you said she overuses it as well. You were happy enough to use it as a negative for Rhian, but clearly in Kasmine's case, it isn't important?

This is not on that topic, someone made a comment on Rhian after I said all the young women are plastic. I replied to that comment on the topic of Rhian. Jasmine was not brought up until I was accused of saying only the other 2 overuse makeup

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by RodHull

Im willing to change my mind if you can prove how they were vicious to anyone... something you have said repeatedly in this thread without a shred of evidence, not even bad biased evidence.

You made the thread dont try to make out Im here harassing you. You wanted to know what people thought of them, I told you and asked in reply for you to explain how you can support Jas if you dislike these sorts of character traits.

Simple enough request I think.

The difference is those two go and have bitching sessions as shown the other night *recapping the events*. Rhian spreading the word of how she's been victimised and is so scared to say her feelings to Jasmine.

The reason I prefer Jasmine is that she is not scared to go and say something to someone's face and say how she feels. And don't say that makes me think she's admirable like a comment was quoted in another thread, it doesn't. But it makes her provide a hell of a lot more to the show than the other two going around bitching. This is all I will say on that matter as going into this has just hijacked the whole thread.

[Jake.]

Could it not be possible that Rhian is scared to say what she really feels infront of Jasmine? Lets not beat around the bush here, Jasmine might say it how she sees it, but she does it ina pretty agreesive, patronising and sometimes nasty way. Maybe Rhian doesn't want to make her flip her lid again. Look at the DR segmemt on BBBOTS tonight: Rhian looked pretty uncomfortable and was being careful with her words as to not provoke her.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by reece(:

The difference is those two go and have bitching sessions as shown the other night *recapping the events*. Rhian spreading the word of how she's been victimised and is so scared to say her feelings to Jasmine.

The reason I prefer Jasmine is that she is not scared to go and say something to someone's face and say how she feels. And don't say that makes me think she's admirable like a comment was quoted in another thread, it doesn't. But it makes her provide a hell of a lot more to the show than the other two going around bitching. This is all I will say on that matter as going into this has just hijacked the whole thread.

Whether it provides more to the show is ANOTHER matter, in this thread you are presenting them as worse human beings, you are attempting to paint them as evil and vile.

If you'd said 'Jasmine is a nasty b***h who makes a living doing this on TV shows but I prefer watching her to those two glamour models' guess what nobody would be arguing with you or at least not challenging you as thats an opinion.

But you've tried to attack and twist the other 2s behaviour to make them seem worse than someone you support, thats not coo imho

And she OFTEN bitches behind peoples backs, she also rants and screams at people but shes not at all honest, always looking for an angle to use on people and totally fake.

Point is mate everything you direct at Rhian and Danica the same and worse can be said of Jasmine. I dont think people would be here berating you if you supported say Julie or Cheryl, but you support the most two faced, least pleasant, fakest, nastiest HM in the whole show and then use those flaws to try to smear the other HMs... Thats not cool

Great if you like Jas but dont make s**t up about the others to validate yourself just admit you like a bitchy HM and who cares. Why the attempted character assassination of the other 2, who at worst are just a bit dull?

[reece(:]

Well I believe that the other two are worse people for doing what they're doing on TV. Flirting and worming men to them and playing them, whilst both have BFs. Jasmine hasn't done that, there's the difference.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Well I believe that the other two are worse people for doing what they're doing on TV. Flirting and worming men to them and playing them, whilst both have BFs. Jasmine hasn't done that, there's the difference.

Except Rhian doesn't have a BF. I can see your point with Danica, but not Rhian.

[reece(:]

Both do, she said the other night without fully laying the cards on the table

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Both do, she said the other night without fully laying the cards on the table

She admitted to a HM (cant remeber who) that she doesn't, and said it to stop Ashley from being too full on or something.

[reece(:]

But she has someone on the outside who she's been going out with recently, all of twitter has been all over it as well

[DanielLuis]

I cant believe people can't see how fake and how much of a player Danica is.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Well I believe that the other two are worse people for doing what they're doing on TV. Flirting and worming men to them and playing them, whilst both have BFs. Jasmine hasn't done that, there's the difference.

Arrrrgggh are you listening. Rhian doesn't have a BF, she admitted this afterwards. Danica does and hasn't done anything wrong... shes flirting a bit, thats what humans do in close proximity, hes also doing this, do you think hes blameless? They both know the deal, he has no interest in her either, its a bit of fun, until the point she kisses him your point is invalid, shes done nothing wrong, unless you were brought up in a convent or something.

Jasmine has however sold two stories of her sexploits for money but thats cool huh? She has defended a known cheat on tonights HLs, but thats cool right?

Again its fine to dislike them but what exactly have they done wrong? Do you live in some world were Mike and Ash are poor fools desperately in love and being used? Please get over it already, its a bit of fun they are big boys.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by reece(:

But she has someone on the outside who she's been going out with recently, all of twitter has been all over it as well

Oh twitter says so it must be true then...

Im done here I think I made my point, but just to reitterate, its cool to like a talentless bitch more than them, you dont have to try to make them out to be awful for our benefit.

[Jake.]

I view it this way... Flirting doesn't make either of them sluts etc, both of the men do and most likely do it day to day.