[Big Brother Cartoons uk]

I can't help but wonder how different things might be if she had, had her mum around as a teenager. She probably has an exaggated survival instinct as a result of the trauma of losing her mum so early. She's an intelligent girl, articulate..just no sense of self respect. Values money above it... Bizarre and sad. Let's hope something changes.

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by JH95

So have you got any form of statistics as to how many of the mentally ill use Danica's website? Because until you do, your point is not valid.

Ridiculous supposition. I have worked with vulnerable adults and financial abuse is rife especially with increased use of the internet, and dating/"fan" sites and the use of benefits and loans to send gifts or help needy strangers who they believe to be friends/boyfriends/girlfriends is quite common. I have worked with the targets of people like Danica and her actions are not harmless. Not everyone who falls for her and buys her gifts is a millionaire with a sugar-daddy complex. Many will be ordinary/broke lonely and desperate individuals. Have a look at her website and you'll see she has no filter to prevent these people from wasting money they don't have. There are topless pics, promises of a budding friendship, a wishlist and a postal address.
What databases have you sourced to infer all her victims are just idiots?

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

How very liberal and open-minded of you, but this very woman has been on a show called "Sex, Lies and Rinsing Guys." In this show she brags about desperate men buying her gifts for her time. We have seen her, first-hand, reeling these muppets in. There are many (probably not thousands) threads about her job probably because a good number of people are outraged that such behaviour is being normalised and she is being given celebrity status for what in some cases may be deemed financial abuse. The dipping of her toe (and likely other parts) into the porn industry for quick cash, in my opinion, shows there are likely few boundaries in her skyping if the price is right.

I do not wish to let this go, but thanks for the kind and liberal advice. And whilst she is on the television, in magazines and likely on the internet, I shall continue to express my opinion that she should not be. Porn does not lead vulnerable men on with the hope of a future relationship whilst systematically stripping them of all they own. Danica does. Were you to find your parents/son/nephew/cousin duped in this manner I doubt you would view this so liberally.

/ironic because you called these same men muppets

[Yayita]

There are lots of types of porn, I have no problem with normal softcore porn.. If she did some nasty hardcore lesbian porn, then I lose respect for that person.. disgusting!

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Yayita

There are lots of types of porn, I have no problem with normal softcore porn.. If she did some nasty hardcore lesbian porn, then I lose respect for that person.. disgusting!

Why? Because that isn't your thing? You can praise one type of porn and completely disregard another. It's all about what people are into.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Yayita

There are lots of types of porn, I have no problem with normal softcore porn.. If she did some nasty hardcore lesbian porn, then I lose respect for that person.. disgusting!

Why? Because that isn't your thing? You can't praise one type of porn and completely disregard another. It's all about what people are into.

[optimisticcynic]

I was referring to her view of them as cashcards and marks as opposed to people. If you take that sentence in the context of the whole post, I later clarify that some of these men are actually quite vulnerable. All she cares about is receiving the gifts, not who they are from or what was involved in obtaining them.

[Jake.]

Yes, some might be vunerable, but most are more than capable enough of making their own decisions in life. The fact that you persistantly push the blame onto Danica shows that you haven't thought about this.

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by JH95

Yes, some might be vunerable, but most are more than capable enough of making their own decisions in life. The fact that you persistantly push the blame onto Danica shows that you haven't thought about this.

I have thought it through and I am not bothered if people like Mike and the Prince try to have a cockfight over her and then splash their cash to impress her. That is passive. Actively putting out a wishlist and an address to profit from others with no safeguards is, however, wrong and demeans her. This should not be celebrated in society or condoned as there is no positive message from it. If you had a daughter, would you want her to aspire to make a living by getting naked for and requesting gifts from strangers?

[Jake.]

Would I want my daughter to do it? No. But is she my daughter? No. She is just a woman in society with a different job than others. Hating on her because she does something you disagree with is absurd.

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by JH95

Would I want my daughter to do it? No. But is she my daughter? No. She is just a woman in society with a different job than others. Hating on her because she does something you disagree with is absurd.

I'm not going to have an issue with people I do agree with?!! How is it absurd to take issue with something you feel strongly about?

[optimisticcynic]

I also dislike thieves, bullies, murderers, bouncers and mime artists (to different degrees of course. Mimes are obviously the spawn of satan)

[optimisticcynic]

And conning people, whether rich and foolish or poor and vulnerable or rich and vulnerable or poor and foolish cannot be called a job. Armed robbery brings in cash but it's not a job.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

And conning people, whether rich and foolish or poor and vulnerable or rich and vulnerable or poor and foolish cannot be called a job. Armed robbery brings in cash but it's not a job.

Except the CON part is an assumption you make. You are assuming (cause it suits your argument) that contrary to all evidence available that these guys think they stand a chance with her. Which clearly isn't the case... There is no CONNING going on.

Most of the criticism against Danica is based on false assumptions, which is why its so distasteful. Where as take someone like Jasmine who actually has done kiss and tell stories, she gets very little flak at all.

Frankly if people wanted to buy me presents in exchange for non sexual chatting online with them Id do it as well... so would most people. Many young women do a lot more than that in exchange for a few drinks on a night out... are they all sluts and *****s as well?

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by RodHull

Except the CON part is an assumption you make. You are assuming (cause it suits your argument) that contrary to all evidence available that these guys think they stand a chance with her. Which clearly isn't the case... There is no CONNING going on.

Most of the criticism against Danica is based on false assumptions, which is why its so distasteful. Where as take someone like Jasmine who actually has done kiss and tell stories, she gets very little flak at all.

Frankly if people wanted to buy me presents in exchange for non sexual chatting online with them Id do it as well... so would most people. Many young women do a lot more than that in exchange for a few drinks on a night out... are they all sluts and *****s as well?

Non-sexual chatting from a website with numerous pics of her in a state of undress. Here are some snippets placed alongside pics of her in lingerie...

I'll regularly be on webcam to chat to you. I can't wait to hear all about you ... and maybe tell you a few of my own secrets too.


I'll also be doing private, one-to-one Skype chats. Contact me to arrange a time and date.
FANMAIL & GIFTS

Please send to:

Danica
PO Box 57994
London
W4 4QG
OR

If you'd like some gift ideas, please check out my Amazon Wish List

[optimisticcynic]

And what is this "available evidence" that men send young stunning women gifts with no sexual motivation? I challenge you to do a poll of whether some form of sexual fulfilment would be the basis for such gift-sending.

[Withano]

Just so I'm clear on your views

I'm a man, if I ask a pornstar to set up a page so I can safely send her gifts and she obliges. Who would be at fault if I become bankrupt?

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by BigBrother3232

Just so I'm clear on your views

I'm a man, if I ask a pornstar to set up a page so I can safely send her gifts and she obliges. Who would be at fault if I become bankrupt?

Welcome back.
Why are you sending pornstars gifts? Are you vulnerable to financial abuse? What do you hope for in return? Does the acceptance of that gift give you hope of increased affection? Will an even bigger gift get you to that finish line?

What she does is unfair to others and likely quite dangerous for her. She minimises the intentions of those she is ripping off to justify her actions, but it will only take one disgruntled stalker acting out of jealousy/"love" and things could take a tragic turn. Amazingly short-sighted.

[CharlieO]

if you were good looking enough youd do what she does so zip it plz

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by CharlieO

if you were good looking enough youd do what she does so zip it plz

I am very handsome. My mother told me so!
Have you a constructive point to make?

[Withano]

I have the feeling that you're one of those annoying people who have to have the last word, even if they realise they're wrong and boring, and repeating themselves.
Thanks for answering my question with a different question. That was ****ing helpful, truth is you haven't came up with an original point since the thread was opened and I'd imagine that you too would set up an account for strangers to buy you gifts if you felt like people would do such things, so stop being a hypocrite and shu'p!

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by BigBrother3232

I have the feeling that you're one of those annoying people who have to have the last word, even if they realise they're wrong and boring, and repeating themselves.
Thanks for answering my question with a different question. That was ****ing helpful, truth is you haven't came up with an original point since the thread was opened and I'd imagine that you too would set up an account for strangers to buy you gifts if you felt like people would do such things, so stop being a hypocrite and shu'p!

Brilliant post. And what a profound finish. I suppose that is the price of me entering a battle of wits with an unarmed man. You're wasting your time trying to offend me as your opinion now holds little weight in my estimation. If you at any point have something constructive to say, feel free in the future.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

Brilliant post. And what a profound finish. I suppose that is the price of me entering a battle of wits with an unarmed man. You're wasting your time trying to offend me as your opinion now holds little weight in my estimation. If you at any point have something constructive to say, feel free in the future.

What's funny is you probably think you have held an awesome constructive argument throughout, when really you have avoided all questions people ask and answer instead with repeating yourself.

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

I am very handsome. My mother told me so!
Have you a constructive point to make?

k

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by BigBrother3232

What's funny is you probably think you have held an awesome constructive argument throughout, when really you have avoided all questions people ask and answer instead with repeating yourself.

Still waiting for a thought-provoking utterance from you, but I am patient. Take your time, son.