[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

A young Downs syndrome girl abused for years and covered up by people in high places

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[billy123]

Jimmy Saville raped me..........And me and me and dah da dah!!!

These stories have been around forever but never had the substance to be taken to the police but now he is dead i suppose there is a few quid to be made out of coming out with these things as its not a police matter anymore.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Jimmy Saville raped me..........And me and me and dah da dah!!!

These stories have been around forever but never had the substance to be taken to the police but now he is dead i suppose there is a few quid to be made out of coming out with it now he is dead.

no one would allow it to come out, do you really think we live in a world where no cover up goes on ?all police/press are honest ? because we really do not

[billy123]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

no one would allow it to come out, do you really think we live in a world where no cover up goes on ?all police/press are honest ? because we really do not

What do you mean it wasnt allowed to come out? none of these are new claims they are all old claims that were investigated and thrown out they are only being repeated now because of a tv programme.

[arista]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz27wvxoiGA

Even a Presenter was told to not say a word.


And Yes Bob
The TV Prog is the base.
ITV1HD 11:10PM Weds 3-Oct
this week Exposure: The Other Side Of Jimmy Savile

[Omah]

Originally Posted by bobnot

What do you mean it wasnt allowed to come out? none of these are new claims they are all old claims that were investigated and thrown out they are only being repeated now because of a tv programme.

It seems you are wrong :

Five alleged victims have come forward to tell how the late TV star used his fame to carry out a string of serious sex *attacks, including rape, at the height of his stardom (the '60's and '70's)

There is only one "old claim" :

In 2007, Surrey Police received at least two complaints that Savile had abused pupils at the now defunct Duncroft Approved School for Girls near Staines, for which he did charity work in the Seventies. The investigation was dropped after a Crown Prosecution Service lawyer advised no further action be taken. The force refuses to say whether Savile was formally interviewed.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz27y3gfoul

Mark Williams-Thomas, who for 12 years was a detective and child protection officer, spent a year talking to Savile’s former victims.

He was a child protection officer with Surrey Police and worked on the prosecution of pop impresario Jonathan King on charges of sex with underage boys.

Since leaving the police, he has become a consultant on child protection and fronted the ITV documentary To Catch A Paedophile.

[arista]

Yes that Former Detective
now doing this Docu
Knows his stuff


11:10 ITV1HD Weds 3/Oct/12

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

found this comment of a year ago under Jimmy's videos

MET HIM TODAY, HE KISSED MY HAND!

she must be disgusted now.

[billy123]

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/...se-claims.html

[arista]

"Sir Jimmy Savile's nephew slams abuse claims"


Of course
his own nephew is angry that all week it could be Front page





Todays

[billy123]

Originally Posted by arista

"Sir Jimmy Savile's nephew slams abuse claims"


Of course
his own nephew is angry that all week it could be Front page

He is annoyed that the claims are from the 70's and if a crime is being alleged why is it being claimed to a tv show and not the police.
I couldnt give a damn if he was a pedo or not but the fact these old claims are being repeated now just stinks of using a story to make money to me.

[arista]

A Clip was just on ITV1 News.


Its a Solid Docu.

[arista]

Originally Posted by bobnot

He is annoyed that the claims are from the 70's and if a crime is being alleged why is it being claimed to a tv show and not the police.
I couldnt give a damn if he was a pedo or not but the fact these old claims are being repeated now just stinks of using a story to make money to me.

Could be because
he is 6 feet under

[Omah]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...aim-women.html

Savile would visit Duncroft, a Home Office Approved School “for intelligent, emotionally disturbed” girls, based in a manor house near Staines in Surrey, to raise its profile.

One of the women, who has written about her claims online, said he would “reward” girls who polished his sports car with an outing.

She wrote: “I looked forward to Jimmy Savile visiting because it meant pleasant food, rides down the lane in his sports car and extra cigarettes.

“Sadly, it also meant one had to put up with being mauled and groped when he pulled into a lay-by some five miles along the road.

“I wasn't the only girl that Sir Jimmy favoured with this either. In fact, he often tried to press me to 'go further' than simply fondling him and allowing him to grope inside my knickers and at my partly formed breasts. He promised me all manner of good things if I would give him oral sex.”

When she eventually complied, she claimed, he invited her backstage for his show Clunk-Click.

Clunk-Click every trip means Jimmy's Dick between your lips .....

[arista]

"Clunk-Click every trip means Jimmy's Dick between your lips "


Yes ITV1HD Late night on Weds







Mondays Papers

[Z]

I have a personal connection to the Hollie Greig case people were mentioning on the previous page and I'm certain that it's not true, or at least what is being told to the media is not completely true. As for this case - I don't know whether or not to believe these women, simply because of the timing of this media scandal. Surely this would have been a news story before now. It's not like the media are afraid to report on celebrities with alleged paedophilic tendencies: see Gary Glitter. I dunno, I don't want to doubt people who say they are the victims of sexual abuse, because it's a very serious matter, but I think it's pretty bad journalism regardless of what's true and what isn't.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by bobnot

What do you mean it wasnt allowed to come out? none of these are new claims they are all old claims that were investigated and thrown out they are only being repeated now because of a tv programme.

umm do you not remember the whole injunction and super injunction scandal recently?? yes, the authorities CAN cover things up. especially when a celebrity is involved.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by bobnot

He is annoyed that the claims are from the 70's and if a crime is being alleged why is it being claimed to a tv show and not the police.
I couldnt give a damn if he was a pedo or not but the fact these old claims are being repeated now just stinks of using a story to make money to me.

umm, why would you not care? If it's true then it's very important and you SHOULD care.

[Jack_]

I find this case, thread and any issues surrounding this quite vile. The man is dead, regardless of whether or not any of these claims are true, there's going to be very little ways of proving it, no trial and he has no way of defending himself. As far as I'm concerned this is irrelevant and attempting to defame the character of a dead man is quite sick IMO.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I find this case, thread and any issues surrounding this quite vile. The man is dead, regardless of whether or not any of these claims are true, there's going to be very little ways of proving it, no trial and he has no way of defending himself. As far as I'm concerned this is irrelevant and attempting to defame the character of a dead man is quite sick IMO.

he's dead so it doesn't matter, but for victims of rape and sexual abuse, just having people listen to you and believe you can be incredibly healing.

I think they did him a huge favor by waiting til after he was dead. They showed more compassion to him by waiting than he ever showed to them.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Attempting to defame the character of a dead man is quite sick IMO.

So Hitler was an angel?

[Omah]

Originally Posted by lostalex

he's dead so it doesn't matter, but for victims of rape and sexual abuse, just having people listen to you and believe you can be incredibly healing.

I think they did him a huge favor by waiting til after he was dead. They showed more compassion to him by waiting than he ever showed to them.

Very true .....

[Z]

Originally Posted by Omah

So Hitler was an angel?

What a ridiculous comparison - Adolf Hitler was a political leader whose conquest for 'living space' and 'racial purity' caused the death and suffering of millions of people, and he proudly did so. His crimes are well documented and he was guilty. Jimmy Savile was a television personality who may or may not have sexually abused some people - and as he is dead, all we have is the word of the people who have come forward. He cannot defend himself. I'm all for balanced discussion but that's a really preposterous comparison.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I find this case, thread and any issues surrounding this quite vile. The man is dead, regardless of whether or not any of these claims are true, there's going to be very little ways of proving it, no trial and he has no way of defending himself. As far as I'm concerned this is irrelevant and attempting to defame the character of a dead man is quite sick IMO.

I've read most of the posts which allege he was not what he seemed and he did have a reputation for being a nasty arrogant man. But to claim now after his death that he was a serial rapist is totally unacceptable. He cannot defend his name and these allegations should have been made years ago. This cannot result in any sort of trial, in fact the only thing that is going to come from this is that his name and reputation are going to be damaged. I find this whole situation very unfair to Jimmy Saville and I would hope any family he has takes the appropriate legal action...!!!!

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Zee

What a ridiculous comparison - Adolf Hitler was a political leader whose conquest for 'living space' and 'racial purity' caused the death and suffering of millions of people, and he proudly did so. His crimes are well documented and he was guilty. Jimmy Savile was a television personality who may or may not have sexually abused some people - and as he is dead, all we have is the word of the people who have come forward. He cannot defend himself. I'm all for balanced discussion but that's a really preposterous comparison.

I believe that you have missed the point (well, two of them, actually) .....

(See Godwin's Law)