[daniel-lewis-1985]

When she was crying at all the stories about kids.

Shes expressed numerous times in the past on The Hills that she wants kids but Spencer will never have them.

Basically shes never going to be a mother.

*Waits for various forum members to start throwing insults.

[Jake.]

It was nice that she showed some deeper emotion, and I did feel bad for her

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

When she was crying at all the stories about kids.

Shes expressed numerous times in the past on The Hills that she wants kids but Spencer will never have them.

Basically shes never going to be a mother.

*Waits for various forum members to start throwing insults.

Maybe one day. Spencer could change his mind.

[flamingGalah!]

No. It's her choice to stay with that arsehole...

[Indy]

Someone with the mix of issues Spencer has should never be forced to have a child - being a famous reality villain has nothing to do with that. Any child he had would be neglected or emotionally abused, and he's at least self-aware enough to realize that. Worst case scenario, some of his issues would be passed on to the child, or he'd lose his temper badly enough one day to physically harm them.

If Heidi wants a child, she needs to find someone mentally and emotionally stable enough to have one. Short of a medical breakthrough, Spencer will never be that.

[joeysteele]

I don't mind Heidi at all and she did show a softer side there, however she follows Spencer completely and she can be quite hurtful herself to others too.

[chuff me dizzy]

Not a tear in sight,and she didnt care about the hm8s kids when she was slagging off their Mums and Dads, evil, vile cow

[Johnnyuk123]

Heidi has shown she is caring and loving, I knew this all along and now the british public know just how sweet this lovely young lady is. Both are deserved winners for their entertainment and commitment to each other. They are both great housemates and clearly deserve to win!

[Withano]

I agree, I don't know how Spencer can't see this.

And did you notice how when she was upset she went to the bathroom, and when Rylan was upset he went to the mirror with a massive ****ing towel. God I hate that man, Tricia left the house and you'll see her in two days.

Grow a pair, also his real name is Ross. I think he might be a bit schizophrenic.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Not a tear in sight,and she didnt care about the hm8s kids when she was slagging off their Mums and Dads, evil, vile cow

Can mods please ban chuff from coming into my threads?

This is not a thread made to bash Speidi i was just reflecting on her getting upset over something that is obviously a sensitive subject to her.

Then we get Chuff in every thread shouting"vile, slut, evil, cow" its just pathetic.

[Nedusa]

I think there is something weird about the Spencer- Heidi relationship , she seems to be fixated on him almost obsessive, he went into the DR on his own and she stood outside pining like a lost soul... Embarrassing or what ??

And he plays to her emotions all the time, a weird but still very entertaining couple..!!!

[Rumple]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Can mods please ban chuff from coming into my threads?

This is not a thread made to bash Speidi i was just reflecting on her getting upset over something that is obviously a sensitive subject to her.

Then we get Chuff in every thread shouting"vile, slut, evil, cow" its just pathetic.

So it was ok for people to bash every other HM and not them? As long as others are talking about other HM's besides Speidi, you don't have an issue with it. This is a forum for people to give their opinions. Just because someone has an opinion that isn't the same as yours, you want the thread closed? Solution: Don't make these sort of threads if you feel people's opinions are bashing.

On topic, I have to agree with what others have said over the past 3 weeks, she could do much better than him. I couldn't exactly warm to the pair but that's my own opinion. On the otherhand, I would have to say too, she chose to be with Spencer but if she found the right guy to suit her needs in life, I think she would make a good mother.

[Marcus.]

i did awww poor them

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Rumple

So it was ok for people to bash every other HM and not them? As long as others are talking about other HM's besides Speidi, you don't have an issue with it. This is a forum for people to give their opinions. Just because someone has an opinion that isn't the same as yours, you want the thread closed? Solution: Don't make these sort of threads if you feel people's opinions are bashing.

On topic, I have to agree with what others have said over the past 3 weeks, she could do much better than him. I couldn't exactly warm to the pair but that's my own opinion. On the otherhand, I would have to say too, she chose to be with Spencer but if she found the right guy to suit her needs in life, I think she would make a good mother.

You dont know what you're talking about.

I'm balanced and like various housemates i dont go round threads shouting abusive words to describe housemates.

I think its wrong for certain members to be hijacking threads and calling them names such us slut and vile troll, stripper *****

I do not do that so you are talking out your hoop sorry mate.

[Josy]

I actually did feel sorry for her a bit

And btw while it's ok to insult housemates it is against the rules to post OTT hate filled posts about them.

[Jamie585]

I still genuinely think she's a nice person, you can tell she desperately wants kids, That's what the emotions we're i think..

[Rumple]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

You dont know what you're talking about.

I'm balanced and like various housemates i dont go round threads shouting abusive words to describe housemates.

I think its wrong for certain members to be hijacking threads and calling them names such us slut and vile troll, stripper *****

I do not do that so you are talking out your hoop sorry mate.

What I'm saying is, when other people have said anything about other HM's with insults, you haven't really said anything to them about it. When Chuff said what he/she did about Heidi, you were quick to point that out. If you're balanced like you say then why nit pick about a member? Chuff only said "evil, vile cow" on this thread. The words you added weren't what he/she put. This isn't exactly abusive when it's just the same thoughts on other people's minds. If mods found it to be an issue, they would remove the post.

My reply to you had no intension to be taken in an defensive way and I'm not anyone's mate. Just here to share my opinions like everyone else. There's no crime in that.

[sampvt]

Did anyone else notice that when Heidi v=broke down and gushed those fake tears that her hubby wasnt there to aid or comfort her. It was scripted just like his speech. How are so many people being taken in by this crap, it beggars belief. Where is my damm sick bucket, i need it.

[Jamie585]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Did anyone else notice that when Heidi v=broke down and gushed those fake tears that her hubby wasnt there to aid or comfort her. It was scripted just like his speech. How are so many people being taken in by this crap, it beggars belief. Where is my damm sick bucket, i need it.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

How has Chuff not been banned as part of the no OTT hate? She lies about Speidi and calls them horrific names. Yes we all sometimes get carried away in the heat of the moment as I'm sure I have but calling somebody vulgar names constantly is horrible.

I know heres some examples of OTT behaviour involving insults from various members.

Chuff

""these poor simple bastards are left without a pot to piss in because of the lap-dancing sluts singing ability"


"Not a tear in sight,and she didnt care about the hm8s kids when she was slagging off their Mums and Dads, evil, vile cow"

Salman

"overweight slutbitch"

Just to name a few.

SAMPVT

"It was so fake and scriped it hurt me to see it. I just wanted to puke and poke him in the eye at the same time. Does he have any boundries he wont cross. WANKER. "

Theres loads over the forum but i cant be arsed to be searching.

Anyway mods sort it out you seem to infract me for any little insult yet these types of posts are accepted.

[sampvt]

Chuff insults HM,s not FM,s and even when she is insulting HM,s its with the truth. Not worth an infraction that.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Chuff insults HM,s not FM,s and even when she is insulting HM,s its with the truth. Not worth an infraction that.

Its against the rules of TIBB to make ott verbal attacks on housemates.

Calling someone a lap-dancing sluts who has no singing ability and a vile cow kinda fits into that criteria.

Chuff does also insult fm directly and via personal messages.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Rumple

What I'm saying is, when other people have said anything about other HM's with insults, you haven't really said anything to them about it. When Chuff said what he/she did about Heidi, you were quick to point that out. If you're balanced like you say then why nit pick about a member? Chuff only said "evil, vile cow" on this thread. The words you added weren't what he/she put. This isn't exactly abusive when it's just the same thoughts on other people's minds. If mods found it to be an issue, they would remove the post.

My reply to you had no intension to be taken in an defensive way and I'm not anyone's mate. Just here to share my opinions like everyone else. There's no crime in that.

Taking Daniel to school, priceless.

[Indy]

Speaking as an American FM, no, it's not only HM's. I've spent very little time on TiBB this series, due in large part to it being so monotonously polarized about speidi vs Rylan, and the dearth of people making intelligent arguments for one side over the other.

When the only argument in favor of not kissing speidi's ass is ZOMG THEY'RE EVIL AMERICANS! Why bother?

[MTVN]

If you feel someone has crossed the line then report it, we can't keep track of every single post made on here so you could help us out a bit if you do notice anything instead of making a big scene about it. It is of course difficult to determine exactly where the line would be when it comes to insulting housemates but we try our best to ensure people don't go too far with wishing death on them, making bigoted comments etc. etc.

Anyway, back on topic now please