[waterhog]

is it time for tougher punishment for pedophiles ? 23.04.13

before you all go anti,
and upside down is your smile,
is it so wrong vigilante,
to catch and punish the pedophile.
the current laws protect,
like most "judges" they defend,
a child is only to easy to order and collect,
online is how they befriend.
now the fear has turned full,
the hunters are now the hunted,
should we be proud and stand tall,
or has this problem be stunted.
you can not monitor,
the "world wide web" is to vast,
its a ever growing motor,
victims and perpetrators is for sure a rising cast.
i understand the police are fighting,
but to slow and justice it don't bring,
a over hall of the law and unit would be delighting,
and if we busted ever "pedo" ring.
thank you "hunters " group,
i hope you grow in members and in power,
the news might even rally a troop,
because more support will make you flower.

( i have put this together on today's news and i hope if anything it shows my frustration in the lack of powers the police have and what they actually do to sort this problem out. this is really damaging to the parents of children and i can understand why they are taken this action because of the lack of attention the police give this problem. but does the reader have a better way to sort this out ? or are the laws fine and working just fine as they are ? if anyone does agree - feel free to sign my petition - here is the link -http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/the-law-get-tougher-on-this-crime )

[Roy Mars III]

cut off their dicks

[GiRTh]

What is a sufficient sentence for a paedophile? Studies show they are never fully 'cured' so how should we punish them?

[waterhog]

are you surgesting no punishment because they can not be cured ?

what about a prolific drug user ?

or shoplifter ?

or rapist ?

are you saying just because they they have a addiction it is ok to do what they are doing ?

[lostalex]

Only God can judge, so lets send them to him.

[Omah]

Bring back impalement .....

[Nedusa]

How many times must we read about stories about Child rape and murder ? What is left to say that hasn't been said before ?

Rape , particularly brutal child rape should not be classified as a crime in the normal sense of the word. People even misguided evil nasty low life's still know that this is crossing a line and in my opinion perpetrators of child rape like this need to be removed from society completely with no possibility of ever returning. They have the most serious psychopathic urges and as such are damaged goods. They can never be rehabilitated and as their crimes are so serious I believe it should be 1 strike and you're out. Removed from society for ever , no fuss no delay just removed never to be seen again.

Rehabilitation does not work as records of sex offenders with long prison records released only to commit the same or even worse crimes further down the line have shown.

[Livia]

Agree with Nedusa. They will never be "cured" so they should be removed from society for good.

[GiRTh]

One strike and you're out eh? What if there were mitigating circumstances?

Paedo's cannot be totally cured but I don't think they are totally aware of what they are doing. Hence, the high likelihood of them reoffending.

They are a problem in society. I don't think we can totally turn our back on them but the 'string em up' attitude will cause more problems not solutions.

[Livia]

If a lad is 17 and the girl's 15, that's a different case. If a grown man rapes a little child, there are no mitigating circumstances, unless he is so mentally incapable that he shouldn't have been without a carer in the first place. They say the only guilty people in prison are paedos. They openly admit what they are and that they will offend again. They should never be let out in 95% of cases.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Agree with Nedusa. They will never be "cured" so they should be removed from society for good.

Yeah I agree with this too. It's not worth risking a single innocent child on the chance that a pedophile might be rehabilitated imo

[GiRTh]

One strike is harsh. People can make mistakes.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

One strike is harsh. People can make mistakes.

It is if you're talking about robbing a grocery shop, not so much if you're talking about raping a child though.............

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

One strike is harsh. People can make mistakes.

Alot of people murder just the once, where does that leave them then?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It is if you're talking about robbing a grocery shop, not so much if you're talking about raping a child though.............

That's why I say they are not aware of what they are doing.

Obviously there are vicious evil predators who prey on boy and girls. I particularly despise those men who only seem to date girls around the age of 13-15. Those perverts know exactly what they are doing. They do just enough to get away with it and are very dangerous, but for a one off offence one strike is harsh. I need to hear the whole case.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

That's why I say they are not aware of what they are doing.

Obviously there are vicious evil predators who prey on boy and girls. I particularly despise those men who only seem to date girls around the age of 13-15. Those perverts know exactly what they are doing. They do just enough to get away with it and are very dangerous, but for a one off offence one strike is harsh. I need to hear the whole case.

It depends on what that one off offence is I suppose, I mean if it's a 14 year old who looks older and the guy didn't know for example then maybe one strike is harsh, but not a proper paedo who rapes an 8 year old, this is the type I had in mind

[Nedusa]

An adult who rapes a pre-pubescent child in my mind has crossed a line similar to a dog attacking a child or baby, there is no way back from this, no prison, no rehab, no counselling, no course of action can undo this act. There is clearly a damaged brain at work here and I for one do not want to gamble with the life of an innocent child that society can "cure" this person.

They cannot, a person with free will no matter how evil would not cross this line and anyone who does has to be treated as beyond help and for the good of all other families out there with young children should never be allowed the chance to repeat these types of crimes.

So Yes !!, as harsh as it sounds , one strike and that's it removed indefinitely never again to pose any threat....!!!!

[InOne]

I think paedophiles work a bit like serial killers. It will start off as fantasy, and then in this day and age will move on to the net. Gradually the compulsion will build up and they start testing boundaries, see what they can get away with. If those types do go ahead with the act of child rape it's usually pretty planned. I mean how often to do you hear it being a relative or 'friend of the family'. I think most know exactly what they're doing but are driven by sexual desire and compulsion. With all the CCTV and stuff around now, it's hard for them to be opportunistic.

[Apple202]

one of my primary schools friends (and still friends) dad's was convicted of being a pedophile a couple of months back and sentenced to 5 years lool, i'd been round his house and everything

just thought that was relevant

ill go now

[Apple202]

wait does it count as being a pedo if it was 15 year olds not 4 years olds cos if it doesnt he's not a pedophile lol

[Jack_]

I think if you're over 18 and sleep with someone (or are just attracted to people) below 16 you're considered a paedophile. But it's difficult because if you were 18 and watched a porn video with a 17 year old in, that's technically illegal (and child) porn...so blurred boundaries I think.