[lily.]

.. needs to seriously re-assess their life.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by lily.

.. needs to seriously re-assess their life.

A****ingmen

[snail69]

Do we really need all these threads that are essentially about the same thing?

I think all threads regarding this Daley thing should be merged.

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by lily.

.. needs to seriously re-assess their life.

[cookiemonster]

indeed

abuse is not a laughing matter. it destroys people lives. it goes unnoticed because people turn a blind eye

[parmnion]

He even blamed her as the door hit his ass on exiting the house.

[lily.]

I find it even more disturbing when it's women defending his behaviour.

[CaudleHalbard]

Who has defended him?

It was right that he should go. But Hazel should (arguably) have gone as well. But at least she got a formal warning, so BB has acknowledged she shares some part of the blame for the incident.

[Drew.]

hopefully nobody's defending his behavior, but i think some people are defending whether or not he should have been kicked out of the house or not.

[cookiemonster]

some people are saying it's 'clearly' just role playing and he didn't mean it like that. which is as good as defending him

[Stankleberry]

They were both clearly joking around. She started the aggressiveness, and continued to allow it to escalate with her sexiness. This is a normal human male female relationship.

I think they got rid of him for the publicity more than anything, which is pretty lame.

[GiRTh]

I think his actions were unacceptable long before he grabbed her by the throat but she wasnt afraid at all points in the incident.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by lily.

I find it even more disturbing when it's women defending his behaviour.

I'd recommend you to stay well of twitter then.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by lily.

I find it even more disturbing when it's women defending his behaviour.

This^^^ If you look on twitter (it's trending) there seems to be a clear divide between men and women-the men are on Hazel's side (mostly) and the women are on Daley's side.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Speedster

This^^^ If you look on twitter (it's trending) there seems to be a clear divide between men and women-the men are on Hazel's side (mostly) and the women are on Daley's side.

Its quite disturbing.

[optimisticcynic]

I really doubt there was any intention to harm. Not a Daley fan at all, but the bit that swayed it for me was when, standing above her, he stops to ask if she wants him to be aggressive, clarifying beforehand that he'd never hit her, as though saying "I'm all bark and no bite". She in turn then eggs him on as though sexually excited by it all. Not to everyone's taste, and people may understandably not be fans of domination and the like, but he seemed to be establishing safety in what is otherwise aggressive foreplay.

[YodaBB]

I agree, It was actually really distressing and hard to watch

[anne666]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Who has defended him?

It was right that he should go. But Hazel should (arguably) have gone as well. But at least she got a formal warning, so BB has acknowledged she shares some part of the blame for the incident.

She received a warning for her behaviour which does not in any way justify his

[swinearefine]

I had already mostly given up hope on society, but I'm actually shocked at the amount of support he's getting.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

No one is defending him, the argument is being based on hazel being evicted with the lunatic as well !!!

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by Im_Juz_ChiLLin

No one is defending him, the argument is being based on hazel being evicted with the lunatic as well !!!

lol I think you are the only one arguing that point

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

lol I think you are the only one arguing that point

yeah but some people are misinterpeting it as we are defending daley when we are not lool....

[mr rochester]

Originally Posted by Stankleberry

This is a normal human male female relationship.

This is categorically not a normal male female relationship...

[PInternet]

I think the real problem here is that many people who post on "Big Brother" forums are possibly a tad prudish and haven't experienced anything like this in real life. The same people who have sex once a month in missionary position for 3 minutes and then roll over and go to sleep and consider that normalcy. I guess it's difficult to be able to identify sexual tension if you've never had it. There's plenty of couples that playfight and choke each other and say "threatening" things to each other without having to sit down and set boundaries beforehand. Some people live in the moment.

If some of you sincerely think that Daley was trying to kill Hazel over a duvet cover, then I just don't know what say. She pulled down his pants; she responded to all of his "threats" with sexual innuendo and goaded him on at every turn. Was he supposed to think that they weren't playing and she wasn't liking it when all of her actions were sexual banter/advances; especially given their history over the past weeks? Not at a single point did she ask him to stop. If Big Brother hadn't called him to the diary room, they probably would have ended up having sex. Again, when he said "I'll finish you"; something that's been put out as one of his "threats", she replied "I bet I'll finish you quicker". That definitely sounds like something that someone feeling threatened would say. Not to mention, that they both knew that they were being filmed and were in a live TV studio with plenty of other people and that there would be intervention before anything criminal happened.

Let's also not forget the fact that after this whole debacle, she spent the whole night sleeping in the same room as him, talking, etc. And for some of you to bring out "Battered Woman's Syndrome" as a defense of that is just horrendous. That's not something that occurs acutely but rather through long chronic abuse in which the woman gains dependence and fears the loss of her partner more than being abused. This is not the type of relationship Hazel and Daley had, nor were they even in a real relationship at all.

[ConnieLingus]

Originally Posted by PInternet

I think the real problem here is that many people who post on "Big Brother" forums are possibly a tad prudish and haven't experienced anything like this in real life. The same people who have sex once a month in missionary position for 3 minutes and then roll over and go to sleep and consider that normalcy. I guess it's difficult to be able to identify sexual tension if you've never had it. There's plenty of couples that playfight and choke each other and say "threatening" things to each other without having to sit down and set boundaries beforehand. Some people live in the moment.

If some of you sincerely think that Daley was trying to kill Hazel over a duvet cover, then I just don't know what say. She pulled down his pants; she responded to all of his "threats" with sexual innuendo and goaded him on at every turn. Was he supposed to think that they weren't playing and she wasn't liking it when all of her actions were sexual banter/advances; especially given their history over the past weeks? Not at a single point did she ask him to stop. If Big Brother hadn't called him to the diary room, they probably would have ended up having sex. Again, when he said "I'll finish you"; something that's been put out as one of his "threats", she replied "I bet I'll finish you quicker". That definitely sounds like something that someone feeling threatened would say. Not to mention, that they both knew that they were being filmed and were in a live TV studio with plenty of other people and that there would be intervention before anything criminal happened.

Let's also not forget the fact that after this whole debacle, she spent the whole night sleeping in the same room as him, talking, etc. And for some of you to bring out "Battered Woman's Syndrome" as a defense of that is just horrendous. That's not something that occurs acutely but rather through long chronic abuse in which the woman gains dependence and fears the loss of her partner more than being abused. This is not the type of relationship Hazel and Daley had, nor were they even in a real relationship at all.

Not much to argue with there.