[cfromhx02]

F G S She doesn't have a condition. She has a female brain and her conception went wrong to create a male body around that.Check it out F G S almost all transgender people have the brains of the gender they think they are,many studies have shown that, and it is almost universally accepted by the professionals we need to see in the transgender referral process.

It's also becoming widely accepted why our bodies are created wrongly too.It only takes just stress on the father's side just before or at conception to change one of the chromosomes from x to y, which gives us the wrong genitals and as almost all body shaping hormones come from genitals if you have the wrong gentitals created at birth because of that just stress on father's side screwing up one of the chromosomes so it is y rather than x you get the wrong genitals

and threfore the wrong body,but still you can have the brain of the other gender as has been shown so often it's unbelievable, yet so many will not accept it,

although they'll accept all the other people who are created wrongly because of things going wrong at conception IE spinanifida etc.

The lengths some will go to to try and make out we are not the gender we are and will never accept us as such, while they don't bother to read the research which shows so often what I've said above

and keep coming up with one thing after another in order to try and make out what we are is not real

is a disgrace, and they say bigotry and non acceptance of difference does not exist.

[cfromhx02]

Lauren may have Dyspraxia which cause her clumsy movement but she definitely has a spinal problem as her mother told her one of the times outside the house on the catwalk while talking to Emma.That spinal problem may itself be what cause her clumsy movement.

Her looking older than she is facially is just because of maybe bad facial surgery or bad botox injections as because of the bigotry and lack of education about why people are born with the brain of one gender inside the body of another gender IE transgender

(although all we're ever trying to do is make our body match the gender that our brain has also been inside, so if you accept that the gender of the brain is the real gender of anyone then we are not really changing or transitioning our gender we are just making our body match what our gender has always been) but because of such lack of education

and knowledge about us in the general public which in some cases leads to pure bigotry or at least non acceptance of us as we are different and don't appear to have conformed to the gender stereotypes

that's why we only get one op provided after umpteen years of intensive psychiatric interrogation, all the other ops we have to find ourselves which can cost £30 ooo plus.

And in the meantime while we're going through all that psychiatric interrogation and trying to save £30 k plus we of course get abused,surrounded,things hurled at us,

our windows broken,petrol bombs dropped through our letterboxes,beaten up,murdered,

have the highest suicide rate of any group because of all that and still some even when told there is evidence out there to prove what I've said about our brains being the gender that we say we are

and why our bodies are created wrongly because one of our chromosomes is f up at conception giving us x y chromosomes rather than x x which means we have wrong genitals

and as almost all body shaping hormones comes from genitals if they are created wrong of course we then get the wrong body around the brain of the other gender,

no one ever goes to read up on any of that proof which there is a lot of on the internet, instead, they just keep coming up with new things they think of to try

and make out we are not what we say we are,

it's no f wonder Lauren's face looks older than it should because of either poor facial work she has had to save for herself or because of all the stress of it all.

The bigotry we have to face and all the stress of being abused left right

and center some of which is v violent no wonder her face looks old

[kate2013]

It looks like shes got kyphosis, although her mum said its scoliosis. Looks like shes also got vitiligo.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

F G S She doesn't have a condition. She has a female brain and her conception went wrong to create a male body around that.Check it out F G S almost all transgender people have the brains of the gender they think they are,many studies have shown that, and it is almost universally accepted by the professionals we need to see in the transgender referral process.

It's also becoming widely accepted why our bodies are created wrongly too.It only takes just stress on the father's side just before or at conception to change one of the chromosomes from x to y, which gives us the wrong genitals and as almost all body shaping hormones come from genitals if you have the wrong gentitals created at birth because of that just stress on father's side screwing up one of the chromosomes so it is y rather than x you get the wrong genitals

and threfore the wrong body,but still you can have the brain of the other gender as has been shown so often it's unbelievable, yet so many will not accept it,

although they'll accept all the other people who are created wrongly because of things going wrong at conception IE spinanifida etc.

The lengths some will go to to try and make out we are not the gender we are and will never accept us as such, while they don't bother to read the research which shows so often what I've said above

and keep coming up with one thing after another in order to try and make out what we are is not real

is a disgrace, and they say bigotry and non acceptance of difference does not exist.

Do you mean Spina Bifida? Whilst I agree with your post, the two are not even slightly comparable. Unless you're suggesting transgender is a disability, you're not are you?

[fingers]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

Do you mean Spina Bifida? Whilst I agree with your post, the two are not even slightly comparable. Unless you're suggesting transgender is a disability, you're not are you?

It would appear that that is exactly what is being proposed, equating being born with the wrong genitalia as more or less the same thing as being born with a club foot or a cleft palate, - a disability.

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

F G S She doesn't have a condition.

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

She has a female brain and her conception went wrong to create a male body around that.

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

Lauren may have Dyspraxia which cause her clumsy movement but she definitely has a spinal problem as her mother told her one of the times outside the house on the catwalk while talking to Emma.That spinal problem may itself be what cause her clumsy movement.

Talk about massive contradictions.

[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

F G S She doesn't have a condition. She has a female brain and her conception went wrong to create a male body around that.

Seriously, that crap about "female brains" is starting to really bug me now.

[smeagol]

do they have a condition or are they really aliens? trust no one they walk amongst us trying to steal are sandwiches lol

[MatthewS]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

With all due respect, you're not her physician. You can't possibly say what she does or doesn't have. Making a comment like: "she has a female brain and her conception went wrong to create a male body around that", is something that only a qualified specialist with access to her medical history can assert. The only thing we know for certain is she was born with, and still has, male XY chromosomes. That's never going to change. Also, what does "she has a female brain" even mean? Are you suggesting that even though she has the genetic makeup of a male, her brain somehow developed as a a females would? That goes against basic genetic structures, and she would have to have some mutated genetics, or a developmental disorder for that to happen. Again, an assertion that only a qualified specialist with access to her medical history could make. She obviously has health issues, but we really have no idea exactly what the extent of that is. Regarding her sexuality, she could very well just be gay and chooses to identify as a female as it makes the most 'sense' to her. It doesn't necessarily have to be because of a 'condition'.

[erinp5]

Lauren states here she has Dyspraxia ,she also has scoliosis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A7m8oy3R40

Youtube video

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by erinp5

Lauren states here she has Dyspraxia ,she also has scoliosis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A7m8oy3R40

Youtube video

I read up about Dyspraxia on the net the other day and I was quite convinced with the symptoms that she does have it but of course I didnt know for certain. While I'm sorry she has Dyspraxia it makes no odds to me, I've enjoyed watching her, she's entertained me thats why she is one of my favourites to win. She's been a fab housemate.

[erinp5]

I posted the VT to confirm exactly the nature of the illness/condition Lauren has.
Lauren has been a fab Hm and has made me cry laughing .
I didn't think I would like her but I have certainly changed my mind,I do hope she gets what she wants from doing CBB.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by erinp5

I posted the VT to confirm exactly the nature of the illness/condition Lauren has.
Lauren has been a fab Hm and has made me cry laughing .
I didn't think I would like her but I have certainly changed my mind,I do hope she gets what she wants from doing CBB.

That would be public adoration and lots and lots of luvverly money,

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by erinp5

I posted the VT to confirm exactly the nature of the illness/condition Lauren has.
Lauren has been a fab Hm and has made me cry laughing .
I didn't think I would like her but I have certainly changed my mind,I do hope she gets what she wants from doing CBB.

I'm sorry Erin, I didn't mean you posted it to make people feel sorry for her. I understand why you posted the VT, and I agree wit you there, she's had me proper laughing out loud too, I love it when a housemate can do that. I hope people won't be mean to her when she gets out of the house but I think she has managed to endear many people to her with just who she is so hopefully her life will become much better on leaving the house. I still find it hard to think how people can be so mean as to go smash her windows just because she's different, isn't that awful.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

I'm sorry Erin, I didn't mean you posted it to make people feel sorry for her. I understand why you posted the VT, and I agree wit you there, she's had me proper laughing out loud too, I love it when a housemate can do that. I hope people won't be mean to her when she gets out of the house but I think she has managed to endear many people to her with just who she is so hopefully her life will become much better on leaving the house. I still find it hard to think how people can be so mean as to go smash her windows just because she's different, isn't that awful.

I think she's amazing! So strong and always positive. She makes me laugh and has really entertained me. She's my winner no matter what happens.

[erinp5]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

I'm sorry Erin, I didn't mean you posted it to make people feel sorry for her. I understand why you posted the VT, and I agree wit you there, she's had me proper laughing out loud too, I love it when a housemate can do that. I hope people won't be mean to her when she gets out of the house but I think she has managed to endear many people to her with just who she is so hopefully her life will become much better on leaving the house. I still find it hard to think how people can be so mean as to go smash her windows just because she's different, isn't that awful.

I agree very sad, I do hope that can change for Lauren .

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

I'm sorry Erin, I didn't mean you posted it to make people feel sorry for her. I understand why you posted the VT, and I agree wit you there, she's had me proper laughing out loud too, I love it when a housemate can do that. I hope people won't be mean to her when she gets out of the house but I think she has managed to endear many people to her with just who she is so hopefully her life will become much better on leaving the house. I still find it hard to think how people can be so mean as to go smash her windows just because she's different, isn't that awful.

Youtube video

[MatthewS]

lol

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think she's amazing! So strong and always positive. She makes me laugh and has really entertained me. She's my winner no matter what happens.

Same for me Vanessa. In fact I really believe that if Lauren was not in the CBB I would not be watching as I am suffering from BB or CBB fatigue and very much tiring of it as it has gone on too long. Lauren is a wonderful, humble human being and deserves to win this CBB. And, like you, she is my winner no matter what. Of all the CBB HMs over the years, Lauren is the one who will probably stick in my mind more than any other.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by fingers

Youtube video

brilliant

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by fingers

Youtube video

nutter.

I can't help it if I have a heart

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

nutter.

I can't help it if I have a heart

It was all done in the best possible taste!

Youtube video

[sampvt]

So when you add all these eminently powerful ideas together what are we left with, yes you've guessed it.....a fruitloop with desires and plans for stardom using the sympathy card and driven by a narcissist called mum.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by sampvt

So when you add all these eminently powerful ideas together what are we left with, yes you've guessed it.....a fruitloop with desires and plans for stardom using the sympathy card and driven by a narcissist called mum.

I don't think that's her name to be honest

[boomoo]

Originally Posted by kate2013

It looks like shes got kyphosis, although her mum said its scoliosis. Looks like shes also got vitiligo.

Her mother was talking about Lauren's back not her skin.
You can see Lauren has curvature of the spine which is scoliosis. Princess Eugenie has had an operation to correct hers and is patron of the scoliosis society.