[arista]

Imaani Ali, 17, believes the ban on veils is a breach of her freedom



Feck Me this is a College Rule
they are taking the Piss.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2eewcxK8p


They were both on Ch4 News
last night.

Is this a sex thing?

[Livia]

If a man wanted to attend the college and wear a balaclava all day I'm sure there would be objections on security grounds, so why not with a face-veil? I have no problem with people wearing religious garb... but the full-face covering is unacceptable to me.

This woman believes that a ban on her face-veil is against her freedom. I don't agree. What's against a woman's freedom is to live in a Muslim country where girls are refused education, or even sometimes medical attention. Making an issue of the face-veil is just deflecting the attention from more serious issues.

[joeysteele]

I agree with the College,in this current age with all sorts of dangers about, I feel we all should have the right to see who we are sharing the streets with,stores and indeed all other public places too.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by arista

Imaani Ali, 17, believes the ban on veils is a breach of her freedom



Feck Me this is a College Rule
they are taking the Piss.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2eewcxK8p


They were both on Ch4 News
last night.

Is this a sex thing?

I don't like to see women walking around with a small tent wrapped around them covered from head to foot.....why would anybody want to do that ??

And to make it only apply to women and to use religion as the supposed reason is outrageous in the extreme.

And for these women to think they actually have made a conscious decision to dress like this is utter self delusion. these women are FORCED by their husbands using religion as the excuse to dress like this, some of them have conditioned themselves to believe in this claptrap as a way of sidestepping the real issue of being bullied by their menfolk into doing this.

No woman......No woman would willingly, wantonly dress like this in public it is utterly ridiculous.

I wish this type of dress was banned in Public places in the UK (like France) it makes my blood boil when I see women abused like this....!!!!!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I agree with the College,in this current age with all sorts of dangers about, I feel we all should have the right to see who we are sharing the streets with,stores and indeed all other public places too.

I agree Joey,no need in this country to go about with faces covered,it's not our culture,we would have to adhere to their rules in their country ,so why not adhere to ours.

[Kizzy]

I guess we will be following Europe?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13038095

[HBB1508]

This really winds me up - we are in the UK it's not our religion. If they want to dress like that go back to your own country if you want to live here follow our laws - simple.

[arista]

Originally Posted by HBB1508

This really winds me up - we are in the UK it's not our religion. If they want to dress like that go back to your own country if you want to live here follow our laws - simple.

They are English
but taking the piss.



The College
has the last say , not them

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I guess we will be following Europe?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13038095

No
this is just about the College Rules


europe can feck off

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by HBB1508

This really winds me up - we are in the UK it's not our religion. If they want to dress like that go back to your own country if you want to live here follow our laws - simple.

You can be a Muslim and British, we are a secular country and thankfully our laws do allow for other religions to express themselves as they feel appropriate and it is not for us to dictate what they can and cannot wear

If Birmingham college want to implement this rule I suppose that is their right but it will thankfully not become law in this country

[Tom4784]

It's a security issue, few places allow people to cover their faces so I think it's foolish and attention grabbing for these students to kick up a fuss when it's a rule that everyone has to follow.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's a security issue, few places allow people to cover their faces so I think it's foolish and attention grabbing for these students to kick up a fuss when it's a rule that everyone has to follow.

I agree, they probably have the same policy for hoods, so just follow the rules. If we start going down the path of changing the rules to suit individuals where would it all end, stuff like this makes a complete mockery of human rights. Ship them to Syria if they want to claim breach of human rights. Honestly.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I agree, they probably have the same policy for hoods, so just follow the rules. If we start going down the path of changing the rules to suit individuals where would it all end, stuff like this makes a complete mockery of human rights. Ship them to Syria if they want to claim breach of human rights. Honestly.

Yes they do
hoods are banned.


There is something odd about those girls

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Livia

If a man wanted to attend the college and wear a balaclava all day I'm sure there would be objections on security grounds, so why not with a face-veil? I have no problem with people wearing religious garb... but the full-face covering is unacceptable to me.

This woman believes that a ban on her face-veil is against her freedom. I don't agree. What's against a woman's freedom is to live in a Muslim country where girls are refused education, or even sometimes medical attention. Making an issue of the face-veil is just deflecting the attention from more serious issues.

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's a security issue, few places allow people to cover their faces so I think it's foolish and attention grabbing for these students to kick up a fuss when it's a rule that everyone has to follow.

Agree 100% with both of these.

Originally Posted by HBB1508

This really winds me up - we are in the UK it's not our religion. If they want to dress like that go back to your own country if you want to live here follow our laws - simple.

This might be 'their' country?

I think they are ridiculous to kick up a fuss about this, but I don't really think theres any need for the cries of 'but this is england' or whatever.

[HBB1508]

Sorry but last time I looked this was England maybe I got that wrong. Maybe this is their country and if so they should respect the laws as much as I do - just my opinion.

[arista]

Originally Posted by HBB1508

Sorry but last time I looked this was England maybe I got that wrong. Maybe this is their country and if so they should respect the laws as much as I do - just my opinion.

look
So far they were on Ch4 news Exclusive
and debated on BBC1 this monring
in all papers.


This is a False set up for them to get Media
and even Fox News America
And India News

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by HBB1508

Sorry but last time I looked this was England maybe I got that wrong. Maybe this is their country and if so they should respect the laws as much as I do - just my opinion.

absolutely right if the rules were in place before they accepted their places at College then they have to abide by them.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

absolutely right if the rules were in place before they accepted their places at College then they have to abide by them.

Yes and they were given a sheet with the rules,
so this is a Stunt.
(ref ch4news )

They seem to want to get on every News Station now
but the story is dead
as they are taking the piss


I smell a Rat

[Mystic Mock]

As I see it if people aren't allowed to wear hoodies then I don't believe that people should be allowed to wear a face-veil.

Both hoodies and face-veil's are dangerous to have in College as well because what if someone did commit a crime at the College and because of the hoodie or face-veil they couldn't tell what the person looked like? I totally agree with the College on this decision and I hope others follow.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by arista

Imaani Ali, 17, believes the ban on veils is a breach of her freedom



Feck Me this is a College Rule
they are taking the Piss.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2eewcxK8p


They were both on Ch4 News
last night.

Is this a sex thing?

i don't see why this is breaching her right to freedom - she is free to find another college ! Whats the problem

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

i don't see why this is breaching her right to freedom - she is free to find another college ! Whats the problem

She has no freedom.........she trapped behind yards of black cloth, unable to see properly or hear properly. she cannot see the sky or hear the birds, she probably cannot smell the flowers properly through that garb.

She cannot take in the simple pleasures of walking out in the fresh air on a summers day.

She is imprisoned in jail of her own making, so utterly brainwashed that she actually believes she wants to walk around like this.

So sad........I think the Govt need to step in and help outlaw this as it is clearly an infringement on these women's basic human rights......the right to freedom to enjoy nature in all its forms...

This inhumane degrading practice has to be stopped...NOW !!!!

[Vicky.]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24072854

College appears to have backed down due to media stories

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24072854

College appears to have backed down due to media stories

Fecks sake.

[Ninastar]

People should be allowed to be who they are and believe what they want. But i think when theres security risks like in this case, the college is right and she should be told not to wear it.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

If a man wanted to attend the college and wear a balaclava all day I'm sure there would be objections on security grounds, so why not with a face-veil? I have no problem with people wearing religious garb... but the full-face covering is unacceptable to me.

This woman believes that a ban on her face-veil is against her freedom. I don't agree. What's against a woman's freedom is to live in a Muslim country where girls are refused education, or even sometimes medical attention. Making an issue of the face-veil is just deflecting the attention from more serious issues.

Some areas of some Muslim dominated countries perhaps. Though Iran has more female graduates than male