[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I don't have to be a parent to know that it's not right to publically imply my child and her friends were all accidents, call them all bitches and trollops (sic), and generally set out to humiliate them in the first place. This could've been done without the high and mighty public service announcements.

People seem to think squatting a person through your legs gives you automatic morality points. This is a clear example of the contrary.

Exactly. Any idiot can have a baby. And yes, there's no moral way to raise your child - everyone makes mistakes, but this is plain wrong.

If it was true, I honestly think it wouldn't have ended well for this girl. People would know who she was (come on, it's the internet, people would figure it out) and she would get teased to no end...

[anne666]

WOW, I agree with her taking the tickets away but why do the rest?

[anne666]

Originally Posted by Verbal

A big fat zero probably

I'm a parent and a grandparent. As I said above I agree with taking the tickets away. The rest is not necessary. On-line humiliation and denegration of her daughter, her friends and their parents? NO! I dread to think what repercussions she and her daughter will have to deal with. Is this mother an angel? She has some serious issues IMO.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Good parenting is being a good example to the kids, you can't expect someone's behaviour to improve if a parent behaves in a similar way. You need to hold yourself to a higher standards if you want your kids to do the same. Kids tend to take after their parents in both good and bad ways, you just have to pass on as much of the good as possible.

You would think so, parenthood opened my eyes.... I hope it does for you

[billy123]

Good luck with raising a child in the perfect and idealistic way

You are being naive if you think you could raise a child without making mistakes and regretting some of the ways you handled things along the way.

Nobody said what this woman did was right not even herself but that didnt stop people judging her as a parent on this one thing. The fact it has been ammended already shows it was probably done in the heat of the moment.

Stupid comments such as "People seem to think squatting a person through your legs gives you automatic morality points" are hilarious. pretentious much?

Good luck being the perfect parent and making perfect decisions you obviously must be better at it and know so much more than everybody else.

[lime]

I am a mother of 4 aged 21,20 ,17 and 8.I have no problem with revoking the tickets as a punishment,but if this is true (which I doubt) the mother comes across as an attention seeker.

[Ammi]

..no one said that they were a perfect parent or never made mistakes, of course every parent muddles through and makes decisions that they think are best and the most they can hope is that they make more good ones than bad ones....but what this woman did has only caused this attention because of the extremity of what she did, not in taking the tickets away because a lot of parents would do the same and that isn’t really very interesting stuff for people to read about, is it....but in making that statement on Ebay, which was completely unnecessary and imo just attention seeking for herself ...so if you do something like that which is so extreme..you’re going to get opinions on it, aren’t you because this isn't 'average, everyday' parenting...but isn’t that the point of it in the first place...she has the attention she wanted at the expense of others, including her own daughter...

[Kizzy]

Wouldn't it just be totally odd if it worked though?
If the kid appreciated the desprate attempt from this mum/dad to open their eyes to dangers they faced, and was essentially appreciative of the lengths parents are willing to go to in order to make clear their feelings?
She may not have listened before, she will be well aware now

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

i'm all for being punished or whatever, but public humiliation is just wrong IMO

It you're going to sell the tickets, just sell them. don't write about how much a brat your daughter and her friends are

Yeah, I agree

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Doing something like this is just hypocritical and incendiary, it's just plain old bad parenting.

You can't do something that's low to teach your kid a lesson and then expect them hold themselves to a higher standard. Kids learn by example and stunts like this help no one.

As a mother, I absolutely agree.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Good luck with raising a child in the perfect and idealistic way

You are being naive if you think you could raise a child without making mistakes and regretting some of the ways you handled things along the way.

Nobody said what this woman did was right not even herself but that didnt stop people judging her as a parent on this one thing. The fact it has been ammended already shows it was probably done in the heat of the moment.

Stupid comments such as "People seem to think squatting a person through your legs gives you automatic morality points" are hilarious. pretentious much?

Good luck being the perfect parent and making perfect decisions you obviously must be better at it and know so much more than everybody else.

It's posts like this that are truly pretentious.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's posts like this that are truly pretentious.

I happen to agree with him, I don't find it pretentious in the slightest.
Assuming one could do better is however.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's posts like this that are truly pretentious.

Awww defending your friends as usual how cute and predictable.

Nobody defended this woman it was wrong what she did but the righteous comments posted by some is just utter bollocks sorry to burst your cute little bubble but its so easy to preach what should be the way to do things but the reality is a completely different thing.

[Suze]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..it hasn’t got anything to do with being soft...she says that as parents they deserve love and respect more than anyone..then she should try to set an example to earn that and concentrate on getting the trust of her daughter and building a relationship so her daughter doesn’t feel she has to lie to her, instead of the example she is showing by ranting on ebay...and what sort of hypocrite does it make her to more or less say that she did similar things when she was young...just a silly attention seeking lady....there is good parenting and there is bad parenting, there is no 'deserving' parenting....

Totally agree with you Ammi, especially the bit in bold, why put that, it just shows that kids do that sort of thing no matter what the decade, and as a parent she could have learnt by her own mistakes to handle the situation better rather than distance her daughter from her.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Awww defending your friends as usual how cute and predictable.

Nobody defended this woman it was wrong what she did but the righteous comments posted by some is just utter bollocks sorry to burst your little bubble.

People are just discussing the story and obviously will comment on whether or not they think it's good parenting, I don't see what the problem is. This woman was the one who made it all so public so she was obviously aware her choice of punishment would be discussed.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

People are just discussing the story and obviously will comment on whether or not they think it' good parenting, I don't see what the problem is. This woman was the one who made it all so public so she was obviously aware her choice of punishment would be discussed.

Theres a problem?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Theres a problem?

You seem to think so

[Marc]

This is brilliant

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You seem to think so

What gives you that impression?
So i think some of the comments are naive,silly and too judgemental some disagree some dont.
As you said we are all offering opinions.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bobnot

What gives you that impression?
So i think some of the comments are naive,silly and too judgemental some disagree some dont.
As you said we are all offering opinions.

Well, it was a pretty immature thing for the mother to have done, especially calling her daughters friends trollops and bitches. It's something that deserves judgmental comments imo, just like that mother made some very judgmental comments about other people children, atleast we're all making them about an adult who chose to put her warped punishment out there for all to see

[Kazanne]

I must be a bit of a soft touch,lol I could NEVER do that to my daughter,let alone bragg about it and sell them,our harshest punishment is grounding her(she hates that).

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, it was a pretty immature thing for the mother to have done, especially calling her daughters friends trollops and bitches. It's something that deserves judgmental comments imo, just like that mother made some very judgmental comments about other people children, atleast we're all making them about an adult who chose to put her warped punishment out there for all to see

Well not one person defended her decision but at the suggestion that all parents make decisions they regret and didnt mean i found the comments of some in the thread were naive and idealistic.So they dont like that idea oh well.
The comments were well over the top but i would think every parent has had to be mean to their kids at some point to teach the a lesson.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I must be a bit of a soft touch,lol I could NEVER do that to my daughter,let alone bragg about it and sell them,our harshest punishment is grounding her(she hates that).

I think just taking the concert tickets would have been punishment enough tbh

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think just taking the concert tickets would have been punishment enough tbh

I couldn't even do that Niamh,well not REALLY take them,I'de have to give them her back at some point so she could go.Just imagine if anything dreadful happened and you lost her,how bad and guilty would you feel,I know that's silly thinking,but that's just me

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I couldn't even do that Niamh,well not REALLY take them,I'de have to give them her back at some point so she could go.Just imagine if anything dreadful happened and you lost her,how bad and guilty would you feel,I know that's silly thinking,but that's just me

Even if she lied to you about having a sleep over at her friends and spent the night with some older guy instead? I could