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Old 05-01-2014, 04:15 PM #51
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Tyson WAS NEVER THE SAME after Prison and his coach dying anyone that has seen Tyson before that stint knows there has been NO FIGHTER IN HISTORY that could take Tyson over 12 rounds

HAD UNMATCHED POWER
WAS THE QUICKET HEAVYWEIGHT EVER
GOAT HEAD AND BODY MOVEMENT FOR A HEAVY
HIS BODY WORK IS STILL UNMATCHED TO THIS DAY

Not saying he would have knocked Evander out as Evander I tough as **** and has size advantage but anyone thinking he does what he did too Tyson after round 5 in the first fight againt Prime T is living in the clouds

No fighter in history not even Floyd comes close prime for prime vs Mike
Except that nobody Buster Douglas.
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Except that nobody Buster Douglas.
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no one would ever take evanders heart. prime tyson was great but he wasnt as great as ali or louis. technically he was too limited.
Please go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quite clear before this post the only fight you saw of Tyson was his fight vs Lewis

Best body work of any heavy in history
Quickest Heavy in history
Amazing head and body movement

Ali got his ass TAPPED by one of the most limited boxers in history in Frasier you think Ali will still be standing after Tyson lays a few bombs on that jaw don't ****ing think so. I would LOVE to see Ali lie back on the ropes and let Tyson punch the **** outta him see how that turns out for him
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Please go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quite clear before this post the only fight you saw of Tyson was his fight vs Lewis

Best body work of any heavy in history
Quickest Heavy in history
Amazing head and body movement

Ali got his ass TAPPED by one of the most limited boxers in history in Frasier you think Ali will still be standing after Tyson lays a few bombs on that jaw don't ****ing think so. I would LOVE to see Ali lie back on the ropes and let Tyson punch the **** outta him see how that turns out for him
lol fanboy...he had a great five 5 years where his speed and elusiveness allied to power saw him smash everyone....and I saw almost every tyson fight. But he was exposed as too limited over time....so many times tyson failed to dig deep against the great fighters of his day and frankly lacked technique and heart. especially holyfield fights where he failed to go to the body and failed to adapt his gameplan at all and took the cowards way out by eating his ear..... shame he didnt fight lewis earlier in his career that would have been epic. I have greta sympathy for tyson , he was detsroyed by gold diggers.....evander story may end up the same way as hes frittered his $350 million on women
ps ali beat prime foreman, a prime liston,patterson twice, even after ali had been banned and came back years past his best.....he also beat frazier twice a fact youve overlooked deliberately....won the world title 3 seperate times and defended it over 25 times agaisnt the best....the heavyweight division was clearly stronger in that period too

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lol fanboy...he had a great five 5 years where his speed and elusiveness allied to power saw him smash everyone....and I saw almost every tyson fight. But he was exposed as too limited over time....so many times tyson failed to dig deep against the great fighters of his day and frankly lacked technique and heart. especially holyfield fights where he failed to go to the body and failed to adapt his gameplan at all and took the cowards way out by eating his ear..... shame he didnt fight lewis earlier in his career that would have been epic. I have greta sympathy for tyson , he was detsroyed by gold diggers.....evander story may end up the same way as hes frittered his $350 million on women
The bit in bold is absolutely spot as an assessment of Tyson as a fighter. In the holyfield fight Tyson couldn't adapt his style and let the smaller Holyfield push him around the ring. Tyson just let his do it without any answer. Tyson kept loading up big single shots that Holyfield took and successfully countered dueto Tyson lack of defensive skills. Tyson is no GOAT. Never.
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Except that nobody Buster Douglas.
WOW JUST WOW what absolute non knowledge

Tyson's issues aside Douglas had just lost his mum and fought literally 10x above his ability that night so I find your comment a bit disrespectful tbh

As for the fight itself ignoring the 15 second count Douglas was given Tyson did not prepare at all properly

BRB fired Rooney WAS NEVER THE SAME AFTER THAT FACT
Tyson always needed stern direction so to replace Rooney they brought in 2 of his childhood friends who knew **** all about boxing and just let Tyson do what he wanted
While training for Douglas he broke camp for 3 days(never did this with Rooney) too go clubbing in China town
Well known he got knocked the **** out in sparring by a bum in the lead up to the fight

AS I SAID TYSON WAS NEVER THE SAME AFTER ROONEY THIS IS JUST FACT

And now with this all in mind without a 15 second count he would still have won lol
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And LOOOOOOL at anyone mentioning ****ing Lewis the man that literally ran away from a rematch with Vitali after getting that ass beat the **** out of then promising Vitali a rematch after the crowd booed that ass out of the arena
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WOW JUST WOW what absolute non knowledge

Tyson's issues aside Douglas had just lost his mum and fought literally 10x above his ability that night so I find your comment a bit disrespectful tbh

As for the fight itself ignoring the 15 second count Douglas was given Tyson did not prepare at all properly

BRB fired Rooney WAS NEVER THE SAME AFTER THAT FACT
Tyson always needed stern direction so to replace Rooney they brought in 2 of his childhood friends who knew **** all about boxing and just let Tyson do what he wanted
While training for Douglas he broke camp for 3 days(never did this with Rooney) too go clubbing in China town
Well known he got knocked the **** out in sparring by a bum in the lead up to the fight

AS I SAID TYSON WAS NEVER THE SAME AFTER ROONEY THIS IS JUST FACT

And now with this all in mind without a 15 second count he would still have won lol
you praching about disrespectful lolololololololol:joke r:
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And LOOOOOOL at anyone mentioning ****ing Lewis the man that literally ran away from a rematch with Vitali after getting that ass beat the **** out of then promising Vitali a rematch after the crowd booed that ass out of the arena
very disrespectful of the great lennox lewis, hypocrite
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WOW JUST WOW what absolute non knowledge

Tyson's issues aside Douglas had just lost his mum and fought literally 10x above his ability that night so I find your comment a bit disrespectful tbh

As for the fight itself ignoring the 15 second count Douglas was given Tyson did not prepare at all properly

BRB fired Rooney WAS NEVER THE SAME AFTER THAT FACT
Tyson always needed stern direction so to replace Rooney they brought in 2 of his childhood friends who knew **** all about boxing and just let Tyson do what he wanted
While training for Douglas he broke camp for 3 days(never did this with Rooney) too go clubbing in China town
Well known he got knocked the **** out in sparring by a bum in the lead up to the fight

AS I SAID TYSON WAS NEVER THE SAME AFTER ROONEY THIS IS JUST FACT

And now with this all in mind without a 15 second count he would still have won lol
All valid points but also watch that fight and see Douglass break down Tysons style, hold him off with the jab, then observe Tyson fumbling around on the floor like a novice then putting his shield in the wrong way round. Douglas won that fight alot easier than people remember.

It is amazing that even after all this time Tyson still has this mystique even though losing very badly to both Douglas and Holyfield and the subsequent joke that his life has become.
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All valid points but also watch that fight and see Douglass break down Tysons style, hold him off with the jab, then observe Tyson fumbling around on the floor like a novice then putting his shield in the wrong way round. Douglas won that fight alot easier than people remember.

It is amazing that even after all this time Tyson still has this mystique even though losing very badly to both Douglas and Holyfield and the subsequent joke that his life has become.
at this sad stage I honestly think muhammad alis daughter would take tyson and no Im not even joking....she was undefeated world champ with a longer reach better jab, better conditioning and more heart
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Why do you keeping talking about the fight as if Tyson properly trained for it I will say it again

FIRED ROONEY (THE MAN WHO GAVE HIM THE DIRECTION AND MOTIVATION TYSON NEEDED) and replace him with his childhood friends who KNEW NOTHING ABOUT boxing and let him do what ever he wanted (The rubber glove incident should tell you all you need to know)

Was getting knocked the **** out in sparring by bums

Widely known (pics all around the net) of Tyson going clubbing and strip clubs days before the fight

Tyson like every fight after Rooney prepared like an utter bum coupled with Douglas losing his mother (you still owe an apology for that comment you made initially no joke) equalled for the perfect storm. Now let's not even talk about the 15 second could Douglas had in the 8th
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The fact that you guys are even suggesting Ali is the GOAT when he got his ass BEAT by the most limited fighter in history in Frasier then right essay's on how limited Tyson is is mind boggling
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Tyson 85-90 would have taken Ali Fraiser Lewis and Douglas one after the other in one night please so educate yourself and watch some prime Tyson footage
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Tyson 85-90 would have taken Ali Fraiser Lewis and Douglas one after the other in one night please so educate yourself and watch some prime Tyson footage
If you say so.
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Nice reply girth have still yet to see an apology for your comment on Douglas stay classy mate thought you were better then that

Truth where you gone mate looks like you ran away faster then your idol Lewis after getting his ass beat by Vitali
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Nice reply girth have still yet to see an apology for your comment on Douglas stay classy mate thought you were better then that

Truth where you gone mate looks like you ran away faster then your idol Lewis after getting his ass beat by Vitali
In your previous post you basically stated that by watching footage of Tyson from 85-90 was proof that he would have beaten four former heavyweight champions on after another. Three of those champions are considered all time greats. I replied 'if you say so'. I think my reply matches the absurdity for your comment.
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Not only beaten Ko'd them. He would have hit Ali's glass jaw so hard 03 Lewis would have felt it

Anyone that
A. Think Prime Tyson was LIMITED when infact he was the definition of a boxer in his prime
B. Thinks Evander (who I have top 8 all time) beats Prime Iron Mike should take up another sport as Boxing is quite clearly no for you
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Sadly for Tyson those who are not educated in the art of boxing remember the Tyson who lost to Williams and Lewis and not the Iron Mike of Spinks and before
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Sadly for Tyson those who are not educated in the art of boxing remember the Tyson who lost to Williams and Lewis and not the Iron Mike of Spinks and before
sadly its you who needs re-educating and re-progamming your little fanboy man love for tyson is bliding you to the realities. everyone remembers tyson at his best and his worst and all the bits in between. youre not telling anyone anything original , we all know. but greatness os measured over time and against all sorts of different fighters and challenges. sadly his greatness didnt last anywhere near long enough. he was also far too limited a technician which is exactly what douglas and holyfield exploited
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Sadly for Tyson those who are not educated in the art of boxing remember the Tyson who lost to Williams and Lewis and not the Iron Mike of Spinks and before
I remember Iron mike. I remember he was the most devastating heavyweight anyone had ever seen. I remember that factors out of the ring did pay a huge part in his downfall but even with those his performance against Douglas was woeful. Fumbling on the floor trying to put his shield in then putting it in the wrong way round was Mike at his most pathetic. Douglas started the Tyson downfall and Holyfield made sure Tyson never rose again.
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