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Originally Posted by Seanbon

Some people just look for offence as a hobby! And who gets to appoint the "Thought Police"??

Bunch of saddos

[Cherie]

Ben if Jim had voiced this opinion would you uphold his right to voice it?

[M X]

Originally Posted by Apple202

I love how your only response to everyone who disagrees with you is "grow up" - I think you should probably take your own advice there, you're nowhere near as clever as you think you are

Exactly right.

[FacelessME]

Ooooh if a black guy gives his opinions on gays, people make ridiculous comparisons with racism and homophobia. Typical.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Apple202

Ben being rightfully dragged

By who ?

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

lmao at it being okay for Evander to have his opinion but anyone disagreeing with it isn't allowed to have theirs.

Nobody has said you can;t have your opinion.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by MichaelSpears

Wow, why are you being rude? Can't you have a discussion without resorting to it? It's not called being realistic at all. It's called tolerating discrimination because on some level you don't see a problem with it. And before you use, "I'm gay myself" as some sort of comeback, please don't because it's irrelevant in the case when you are supporting homophobia.

How am I "crying homophobia"? It's not as if he just said "Oh, I don't really think that being gay is okay" - he said that being gay is wrong, unnatural, a mistake, and a disability. How exactly is this not homophobia?

[Doogle]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Look I am gay myself and I am mature enough to know that people have different opinions and have had different upbringings from different generations.

You can't MAKE someone think otherwise, it doesn't happen. In an ideal world we are all okay with it but it doesn't happen and sometimes you have to respect that.

[Apple202]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Nobody has said you can;t have your opinion.

You've told everyone who disagrees with you to grow up... now what could that suggest?

[M X]

Originally Posted by Chuck

There is no such thing as "personal view" about race. There is being racist or not. Same with sexuality.

This.

[Scream]

If Liz had said this the people saying it's just his belief would be saying completely different things, I'm sure.

[JTM45]

Channel 5 are probably ecstatic that he said it because of the attention it will bring the show but the warning is clearly just them being seen to disapprove to cover themselves.

His opinion is wrong and offensive and just shows him to be an extremely stupid probably religious American but at the end of the day it's his opinion and it's his right to have it.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Apple202

You've told everyone who disagrees with you to grow up... now what could that suggest?

That hes telling the truth ?

[Samm]

I'm hope Luisa does not go

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Ben if Jim had voiced this opinion would you uphold his right to voice it?

Had he been asked in the manner Evander was then yes. But I believe Jim has been very outspoken about his views in the past, that is the difference, Evander hasn't, he was asked and responded. That was all. He has not gone out of his way to show he actively hates homosexuality as far as I know.

[M X]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Nobody has said you can;t have your opinion.

But the fact that you all you have done is tell everyone to "grow up" and "deal with it" just proves the point entirely. Opinions such as your own and Evanders are built from ignorance. There's nothing of any substance and that shows in the fact that you have nothing to write back that will help make your point at all.

[Jack_]

He's perfectly entitled to his opinion (even though it's disgusting and indisputably wrong), but to air it on a national TV show in the UK which is certainly more tolerant than the US when it comes to gay rights is just moronic. Luisa told him to shut up and for his sake he should have listened. If you're going to talk like that on a television show then yes of course you're going to be spoken to. And if I remember the conversation correctly they didn't actually issue him a formal warning, just merely reminded him that what he was saying is potentially offensive to viewers. Correct me if I'm wrong on that though.

This is what religious delusion does to people though, it's sad

[sampvt]

OMG enter the morality police. There will be tears before bedtime.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Nobody has said you can;t have your opinion.

Anyone who's disagreed with it in this thread have been shouted down and labelled 'delicate queens and princesses' by yourself

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Originally Posted by JTM45

Channel 5 are probably ecstatic that he said it because of the attention it will bring the show but the warning is clearly just them being seen to disapprove to cover themselves.

His opinion is wrong and offensive and just shows him to be an extremely stupid probably religious American but at the end of the day it's his opinion and it's his right to have it.

No ,why is his opinion wrong ? because its not the same as yours? how arrogant ?

[erinp5]

He is allowed a religious view. What was offensive was saying 'they' can be fixed.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Apple202

You've told everyone who disagrees with you to grow up... now what could that suggest?

I mean as in actually grow up/get older. I was a lot like this when I was younger and the more I learn about people and the world the more I can understand things.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by sampvt

OMG enter the morality police. There will be tears before bedtime.

PATHETIC ,mob culture

[M X]

Also, I think everyone's forgetting that Luisa herself is bisexual so it's also worth wondering whether or not he knew this. Then it's a whole other matter in itself that Channel 5 have probably chose to edit out to save themselves.

[Braden]

Some gay people are just so scared that they fit the typical stereotype of being a 'queen', 'queer', 'fag', etc. that they feel the need to 'defend' homophobic actions.

It's quite upsetting really.