[Jordan.]

I didn't like her in the Apprentice but I've loved her in BB

[sampvt]

[QUOTE=daniel-lewis-1985;6619174]Judge her as a housemate and not someone you would meet in real life.



So what you are saying is that we should only judge her as a HM and not someone in real life, yet on the other side of the coin, we are not allowed to judge Jim as a HM, we HAVE TO JUDGE HIM as a real life person with a history.

I am confused, is that not double standards. Have you eventually come round to our way of thinking, well done, welcome aboard.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

I suspect Linda's been dry for years

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by sampvt

[QUOTE=daniel-lewis-1985;6619174]Judge her as a housemate and not someone you would meet in real life.



So what you are saying is that we should only judge her as a HM and not someone in real life, yet on the other side of the coin, we are not allowed to judge Jim as a HM, we HAVE TO JUDGE HIM as a real life person with a history.

I am confused, is that not double standards. Have you eventually come round to our way of thinking, well done, welcome aboard.

Bloody well said Sam,double standards much

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by sampvt

[QUOTE=daniel-lewis-1985;6619174]Judge her as a housemate and not someone you would meet in real life.



So what you are saying is that we should only judge her as a HM and not someone in real life, yet on the other side of the coin, we are not allowed to judge Jim as a HM, we HAVE TO JUDGE HIM as a real life person with a history.
I am confused, is that not double standards. Have you eventually come round to our way of thinking, well done, welcome aboard.

My god are you still here?

Who is "our way of thinking"....Who are you, are you in a community hall with a lot of other like minded people?

Please read my posts properly I was referring to Jim admitting to Luisa that he wasn't being himself in there in his words he said he was a male chauvinist and would be kicked out of the house if he were to be his actual self.

HE SAID THIS IN THE HOUSE, I am judging him on that.

You were the one talking about betting odds randomly.

[reece(:]

Don't know what this thread has to do with Jim but ok, keep reaching

[Josy]

No.

Dislike her even more, the more we have been shown what a nasty, spiteful, loud annoying woman she is.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

My god are you still here?

Who is "our way of thinking"....Who are you, are you in a community hall with a lot of other like minded people?

Please read my posts properly I was referring to Jim admitting to Luisa that he wasn't being himself in there in his words he said he was a male chauvinist and would be kicked out of the house if he were to be his actual self.

HE SAID THIS IN THE HOUSE, I am judging him on that.

You were the one talking about betting odds randomly.

My point was simple. You stated that we should judge her as a hm but not jim. Why cant you just answer the question instead of deflecting and twisting things. Your quote is quite clear and easy to read. You fail to answer my questions yet you slag me off when I don't answer yours. Please address the question and we will all get along. I am only referring to your own quote which is in black and white for all to see.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by sampvt

My point was simple. You stated that we should judge her as a hm but not jim. Why cant you just answer the question instead of deflecting and twisting things. Your quote is quite clear and easy to read. You fail to answer my questions yet you slag me off when I don't answer yours. Please address the question and we will all get along. I am only referring to your own quote which is in black and white for all to see.

When did I say you couldnt judge Jim based only on his behaviour in the house.

Ive answered your question 3 ****ing times. I never "stated we should judge her as a hm but not jim".

I never said that and that quote in Black and white simply says judge Luisa as a housemate as this thread is about luisa, like ive said and for the last time I am judging Jim on his behaviour in the house. Heres my last post AGAIN where I answered your incorrect question and stupid non quote.

Jim said to Luisa he couldn't be the same person in the house as he would be in the outside world or he would be kicked out.

Jim was referring to himself on the outside world not me.

I don't make the rules of the forum lol I just said judging as a housemate which applies to everyone not just Luisa.

I cant make that any clearer, these quotes you are posting don't even match up to the things you are posting back. You really baffle me, I think you're a bit confused or look for something out of nothing.

Lets be honest now you just love to troll any post I make its getting depressing.

MODS!!!!!!!!

[chuff me dizzy]

Dislike her more each day

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Judge her as a housemate and not someone you would meet in real life.

I know she gets a lot of hate but in my opinion she has brought the most to the show and has been such an entertaining housemate.

Without her it would all be focussed on the love triangle and none of those explosive arguments would have happened. Last night confirmed it for me in the task room she was hilarious. She is now my official favourite but I didn't think I would like her before she went in.

How can you not love watching a rebellious, argumentative but also funny girl?

Surely that's what a perfect BB housemate is, however some people just seem to hate her for the sake of it now and are to stubborn to change their opinion.

So would you rather watch a housemate who provides arguments, entertainment and gives genuine opinions or....LIZ, a timid woman who sits on the sofa all day not saying a word. How the hell did that woman get saved last week?

My parents sent me to UNI and when I was there I learned to decipher English. At no point in your post do you mention Jim or the points you come back at me at. You start and finish all about Luisa. Jims not in it nor anything to do with what he said to her.

I don't mind taking criticism, but in this case I need you to point out the bit in your post that refers to what the hell you are on about. I am not alone here so please clear it up for me and by the way, I am not a psychologist so I can read your mind or thoughts so please don't say....that's not what I meant, or you misunderstood me. The post is above and its pretty clear to me that you were championing Luisa and your latest retort was about something else. I am simply asking for clarification so I can apologise if I am wrong.

My question is simply about your first paragraph. Judge her as a HM when you tell us we cant judge jim and a hm, we need to look as his life instead, simples.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by sampvt

My parents sent me to UNI and when I was there I learned to decipher English. At no point in your post do you mention Jim or the points you come back at me at. You start and finish all about Luisa. Jims not in it nor anything to do with what he said to her.

I don't mind taking criticism, but in this case I need you to point out the bit in your post that refers to what the hell you are on about. I am not alone here so please clear it up for me and by the way, I am not a psychologist so I can read your mind or thoughts so please don't say....that's not what I meant, or you misunderstood me. The post is above and its pretty clear to me that you were championing Luisa and your latest retort was about something else. I am simply asking for clarification so I can apologise if I am wrong.

My question is simply about your first paragraph. Judge her as a HM when you tell us we cant judge jim and a hm, we need to look as his life instead, simples.

So you mean my first post in this thread then?

If that's the case then yeah ofcourse its all about Luisa, why would I even mention Jim in a thread asking if people have warmed to her.

You said it yourself I didn't mention Jim in that first post, theres no reason to. Just because I said judge her as a housemate doesn't automatically mean you cant do the same for every other housemate.

But you're also saying I only mention Luisa yet say I told you you cant judge Jim as a hm also? So first you say I make no mention of him then you say ive said you can not judge him as a housemate?

Tell me now you're not confused.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Josy

No.

Dislike her even more, the more we have been shown what a nasty, spiteful, loud annoying woman she is.

Do you like any of the Hms'

[alex_front2]

She's entertaining, but for me she's essentially a skanky c*ck sucking slut (agree with Dappy) so I haven't warmed to her. But she is good TV, and not afraid to speak up.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Do you like any of the Hms'

Yeah most of them

The only one I really don't like is Luisa.

[Sophiee]

loved her from the start .

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

So you mean my first post in this thread then?

MODS.........Please get this guy off my back, he is trolling me all day. Of course I meant your first post, Its there in black and white and you still are avoiding the answer. Please practice what you preach and address questions when asked. You seem to be full of advice for everyone else on here but like Luisa, cant deal with anything that proves you wrong. I am not being nasty or trolling you, I simply am answering your questions and questioning your retorts.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by sampvt

MODS.........Please get this guy off my back, he is trolling me all day. Of course I meant your first post, Its there in black and white and you still are avoiding the answer. Please practice what you preach and address questions when asked. You seem to be full of advice for everyone else on here but like Luisa, cant deal with anything that proves you wrong. I am not being nasty or trolling you, I simply am answering your questions and questioning your retorts.

Mate you're the one hounding me for some question you desperately need to know the answer for.

I hadn't finished typing...I am not trolling o for a man of your age please act it. So as I was saying.....

"So you mean my first post in this thread then?"...

If that's the case then yeah ofcourse its all about Luisa, why would I even mention Jim in a thread asking if people have warmed to her.

You said it yourself I didn't mention Jim in that first post, theres no reason to. Just because I said judge her as a housemate doesn't automatically mean you cant do the same for every other housemate.

But you're also saying I only mention Luisa yet say I told you you cant judge Jim as a hm also? So first you say I make no mention of him then you say ive said you can not judge him as a housemate?

Tell me now you're not confused.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

MODS.........Please get this guy off my back, he is trolling me all day. Of course I meant your first post, Its there in black and white and you still are avoiding the answer. Please practice what you preach and address questions when asked. You seem to be full of advice for everyone else on here but like Luisa, cant deal with anything that proves you wrong. I am not being nasty or trolling you, I simply am answering your questions and questioning your retorts.

Sam, I came into this thread earlier and deleted all the arguing between you two, you're the one who quoted daniel again after that so I can't understand why you're saying he won't leave you alone. If you don't want to speak to him, don't quote him

[Patricia4]

No don't like her

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Sam, I came into this thread earlier and deleted all the arguing between you two, you're the one who quoted daniel again after that so I can't understand why you're saying he won't leave you alone. If you don't want to speak to him, don't quote him

Thank you.

Can we just stick to the topic which is LUISA.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Sam, I came into this thread earlier and deleted all the arguing between you two, you're the one who quoted daniel again after that so I can't understand why you're saying he won't leave you alone. If you don't want to speak to him, don't quote him

I had finished with him till he came back and posted WIN at the bottom of his post. That was a typical Daniel wind up. You know what I mean and he is twisting things to make me look bad. All I said was if he advocates only judging Luisa by what she does in the house, then why is he constantly slagging Jim off for what he has done outside, that's all.

He wants me to get pissed and insult him so I get infracted. I have a right to champion Jim and question anyone that wrongly accuses me of making my posts about HM,s in the house and not outside. Why are you taking his side in this, is Daniel beyond scrutiny.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I had finished with him till he came back and posted WIN at the bottom of his post. That was a typical Daniel wind up. You know what I mean and he is twisting things to make me look bad. All I said was if he advocates only judging Luisa by what she does in the house, then why is he constantly slagging Jim off for what he has done outside, that's all.

He wants me to get pissed and insult him so I get infracted. I have a right to champion Jim and question anyone that wrongly accuses me of making my posts about HM,s in the house and not outside. Why are you taking his side in this, is Daniel beyond scrutiny.

Seriously?

This is so pointless and childish no ones taking my side at all. Maybe you should ask yourself why you keep getting infractions.

Conversation over.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Josy

Yeah most of them

The only one I really don't like is Luisa.