[arista]

Reported on all news
and a undercover reporter yesterday on ch4.



Do Not Protest at All
you will be killed if you do.
Avoid Trouble
Stay Alive in Syria.



Sign Of The Times

[Smithy]

[Shaun]

**** you arista, i've already made 3 banners for this.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Shaun

**** you arista, i've already made 3 banners for this.

Then those Peoples are sent to Death.



Do Not Protest in Syria
Stay Alive.


The World is Not Under One Control


Life In The Fast Lane.

[arista]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...p-general.html

Red line Crossed - President Of USA - what will he do?


http://news.sky.com/story/1131320/sy...-in-gas-attack

[Nedusa]

Clearly this was timed to coincide with UN inspectors investigating the last so called chemical attack. Clearly this was a carefully timed plan to try and blame on the Assad regime. But we don't believe a word of it and Russia is carrying out its own investigation into this. Angry that the western powers will do anything to destabilise the Assad govt.

Fact is the rebels cannot win this as Russia is supporting Assad and to be honest it's all over for the rebels.

The last throw of the dice for a failed and discredited opposition.

Arab Spring ....???? Do me a favour ....!!!!

[Nedusa]

Clearly this was timed to coincide with UN inspectors investigating the last so called chemical attack. Clearly this was a carefully timed plan to try and blame on the Assad regime. But we don't believe a word of it and Russia is carrying out its own investigation into this. Angry that the western powers will do anything to destabilise the Assad govt.

Fact is the rebels cannot win this as Russia is supporting Assad and to be honest it's all over for the rebels.

The last throw of the dice for a failed and discredited opposition.

Arab Spring ....???? Do me a favour ....!!!!

[Nemo123]

I agree Nedusa. There are greater geopolitical forces at work. I think Russia's position now is a kind of compromise. I think they'll accept Assad's head, but they want whoever replaces him to be on their side. Syria is Russia's last hold on the middle East, and the west is doing their best to unstable Russia.

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Clearly this was timed to coincide with UN inspectors investigating the last so called chemical attack. Clearly this was a carefully timed plan to try and blame on the Assad regime. But we don't believe a word of it and Russia is carrying out its own investigation into this. Angry that the western powers will do anything to destabilise the Assad govt.

Fact is the rebels cannot win this as Russia is supporting Assad and to be honest it's all over for the rebels.

The last throw of the dice for a failed and discredited opposition.

Arab Spring ....???? Do me a favour ....!!!!

Originally Posted by Nemo123

I agree Nedusa. There are greater geopolitical forces at work. I think Russia's position now is a kind of compromise. I think they'll accept Assad's head, but they want whoever replaces him to be on their side. Syria is Russia's last hold on the middle East, and the west is doing their best to unstable Russia.

Yea agree with bith of you

[Z]

Wouldn't be surprised if the US starts trying to cause trouble in Armenia so it's got a monopoly on the Caspian Sea oil industry. US/Russia conflicts of interest are on so many different levels in so many different territories...

[Nedusa]

People should not be so quick to jump on the "Assad uses Chemical weapons against his own people" bandwagon. There are many inconsistancies with the story currently being touted in the western media and press.

Why did this happen as UN weapons Inspectors happened to be in Syria to investigate the previous suspected use of Chemical weapons. I think the timing is very suspicious to say the least.

Why on earth would Assad use these weapons on his own people when he is clearly winning the conflict in Syria in any case...it makes no sense

But the most importantly evidence that this was the work of the FSA is that the Chemical agents that Assad has like Mustard Gas,VX & Sarin are known as "persistant agents" and have clearly visible symptoms like convulsions and discoluring of the skin. All news footage of the victims of this attack show symptoms that are inconsistant with the use of the type of weapons Assad has.

And probably most importantly of all the VX gas and Sarin gas would persist on the victims clothes and hair BUT we have clearly seen victims in the aftermath of this attack being treated by Doctors and Emergency workers who are not wearing any Chemical protection suits. if these agents were indeed Sarin of VX nerve gas then the people helping these victims would also be dead and that is not the case.

It is now thought by experts looking at the footage that the symptoms shown as probably caused by Industrial chemicals and poisons and NOT actual Chemical warfare weapons.

So ....is this a crude attempt to again try and blame Assad for an atrocity he did not commit to get the World's attention and possibly force Obama to react by allowing more weapons to the Rebels or even threatening new Military action against Assad. ?

But a final thought....somebody decided to launch these weapons into residential areas in Damacus and murder Men, Women and Children and that is truly Shocking & Unforgiveable....

[arista]

Yes is the story fake
as no outside people can get near it
due to Snipers?



As for Red Lines
that was stupid of the President.

[Nedusa]

The more I look at this story the more I start to think this is the last desperate attempt by the Syrian rebels to try and create a situation where they gain in terms of weapons and possibly more help from the western powers.

My real concern in all of this is that these people the so called free Syrian army are so consumed by anger and hatred for Assad and so determined to do whatever it takes to overthrow him , that they could consciously decide to exterminate hundreds if not thousands of innocent people to achieve that aim...

What sort of people are we dealing with the mind boggles ...!!!

These people these cold blooded murderers are going to become the next Govt of Syria

I swear to God you couldn't make this up....!!!!!!!

[arista]

[Nemo123]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Clearly this was timed to coincide with UN inspectors investigating the last so called chemical attack. Clearly this was a carefully timed plan to try and blame on the Assad regime. But we don't believe a word of it and Russia is carrying out its own investigation into this. Angry that the western powers will do anything to destabilise the Assad govt.

Fact is the rebels cannot win this as Russia is supporting Assad and to be honest it's all over for the rebels.

The last throw of the dice for a failed and discredited opposition.

Arab Spring ....???? Do me a favour ....!!!!

+1 Nedusa.

Tonight's news carries William Hague's attempt to blame this on Assad. How stupid would it be for Assad to launch a chemical attack on his enemies at the same time a UN inspectorate arrived in Syria?
I cannot abide William Hague! He has been pushing for all out war for 2 years. What has Assad's "regime" done that was so terrible recently? It has been in power without issue for about the last 20 years.

[Nemo123]

There are 2 countries which haven't yet fallen under American Hegemony: Syria and Iran. They are lined up in that order to be conquered. Syria is Russia's last ally in the Middle East, and I doubt they'll let it go easily. Russia was irate over the overthrow of Gadaffi.
Before I say any more, I want to inform people who didn't know that Iraqis and Libyans enjoyed wonderful health care and guaranteed minimum incomes. They weren't bad at all or evil, they were benign, albeit totalitarian. Irish nurses, for example, use to go to work in state of the art hospitals in Iraq, for better money they could get in Ireland or Britain. People who demonise Gadaffi or Hussein paper over the welfare system they brought to their countries.

[arista]

WW3 on the way

[Nemo123]

Originally Posted by arista

WW3 on the way

I despair. WW3 is indeed on its way.

I hope people who are educated enough will resist.

[Nemo123]

Conspiracy theorists are mocked. Indeed, the term "conspiracy theorist" has become a pejorative term. Dismissed as outlandish and ridiculous. But, to deny conspiracy theories, is to deny conspiracies. Conspiracies can't take place because conspiracies are ridiculous. But they do exist, obviously. The 15 hijackers who flew planes into the twin towers and the Pentagon, conspired to do that, (if you believe that particular conspiracy theory). There's another conspiracy theory which says the twin towers were attacked by manless remote-control drones. Yet the one where 15 Saudi Arabians did it reached the news' stands first, quicker than the twin towers fell. You have to ask yourself who put out that particular version of events. All the mainstream media picked i up and suddenly that particular conspiracy theory became the unquestioned truth.

[Nemo123]

You also have to question why Osama Bin Laden was blamed within hours or days, when he consistently denied having anything to do with it.

[Nemo123]

The 911 Commission report never deviated from the presumption that 15 Saudis flew 4 hijacked planes into the WTC, The Pentagon, and a field somewhere. That presumption was their starting point, and they made their findings fit into that hypothesis. They should have started with an open mind, but instead their conclusions were their starting point, and they had to make the facts fit into them. It's very reminiscent of the Warren Commission over JFK's assassination for anyone who is familiar with that. They too started out with a conclusion, that Oswald had killed JFK, and make the facts fit their conclusion.

[Nedusa]

I think Obama will refrain from starting any non UN authorised military action in Syria as the possible unforseen consequences could ignite the whole of the middle East and the effect on the already somewhat shaky markets could make the crash of 2008 look like a walk in the park.

The fragile US economy is in my opinion unable to sustain funding for another war this time on a larger scale coupled with the negative effects on the markets

Also the fallout from this with relations with Russia and China could also be extremely worrying.

No I think Obama may deliver angry press soundbites but will wait until all UN inspections have finished before going back to the UN for any further resolutions.

No stomach for a fight especially one which has the potential to develop into a Global Conflict.....IMHO !!!!!!

[Nedusa]

I am puzzled why David Cameron is still talking about unilateral Military action against Syria when the US agrees with Russia to allow weapons Inspectors time to investigate the attacks before reporting back to the UN.

Seems the UK is chomping at the bit again to start another doomed Military adventure.

[arista]

Syria, Russia , China and Iran Vs USA and UK

What does the west want outright murder
and destruction with a End Result of more War?

[arista]

UK Gov to meet on Weds
to talk about options.


Looks like we may support, back up
USA attacks yet again