[M X]

Pauline, Steven, Toya, and Helen aka The Bullies clearly have this idea that if they continue to ademently deny any wrong doing towards Jale (mainly Pauline and Steven) then the public will believe them and think that Jale is just trying to play the victim. Even though we have seen them bullying Jale and know that she really is being ostracized and picked on in a complete mob mentality way.

And even more by tacticly trying to make Jale look like the bad one, they are doing it even more, and thus making themselves look worse.

It's gone from a simple clash of personalities (or more like brainwashing from Pauline because Jale was a threat to her intial popularity), to real uncomfortable viewing and behaviour. Of course it is bullying to make these remarks about somebody based on their physical appearance - 'Non Woman', 'Slug', etc...
and for Toya to threaten violence against Jale just because she made a simple throwaway joke.
Even with the situation with Helen's lip balm. It wasn't a big deal at all and you could just see that Helen knew that it was a prime opportunity to make Jale feel small and humiliate her in front of everyone.

If the public have any sense, they will see through the bullies attempt at rehabilitating their image and will support Jale all the way.

[Samm]

Toya is not a Bully AT ALL, none of them are, I'm not saying I like them because I hate Steven but can we stop with the Bully word none of the HM are being Bullied at all

[Headie]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

Toya is not a Bully AT ALL, none of them are, I'm not saying I like them because I hate Steven but can we stop with the Bully word none of the HM are being Bullied at all

Agreed. Disliking people you aren't friends with/arguing with them and bullying are two different things.

[M X]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

Toya is not a Bully AT ALL, none of them are, I'm not saying I like them because I hate Steven but can we stop with the Bully word none of the HM are being Bullied at all

In my opinion, a gang of people making fun of somebody's looks is bullying, and the deliberate and persistent seclusion of Jale from the other HM's is bulling. Toya included.

Toya is so far up Pauline's ass she will do whatever it takes to stay in her good books.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by MichaelSpears

In my opinion, a gang of people making fun of somebody's looks is bullying, and the deliberate and persistent seclusion of Jale from the other HM's is bulling. Toya included.

Toya is so far up Pauline's ass she will do whatever it takes to stay in her good books.

When have they made fun of Jale's looks

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by MichaelSpears

Pauline, Steven, Toya, and Helen aka The Bullies clearly have this idea that if they continue to ademently deny any wrong doing towards Jale (mainly Pauline and Steven) then the public will believe them and think that Jale is just trying to play the victim. Even though we have seen them bullying Jale and know that she really is being ostracized and picked on in a complete mob mentality way.

And even more by tacticly trying to make Jale look like the bad one, they are doing it even more, and thus making themselves look worse.

It's gone from a simple clash of personalities (or more like brainwashing from Pauline because Jale was a threat to her intial popularity), to real uncomfortable viewing and behaviour. Of course it is bullying to make these remarks about somebody based on their physical appearance - 'Non Woman', 'Slug', etc...
and for Toya to threaten violence against Jale just because she made a simple throwaway joke.
Even with the situation with Helen's lip balm. It wasn't a big deal at all and you could just see that Helen knew that it was a prime opportunity to make Jale feel small and humiliate her in front of everyone.

If the public have any sense, they will see through the bullies attempt at rehabilitating their image and will support Jale all the way.

I agree.

People get hung up on the word 'bullying' but if anyone was in Jale's position and was being called 'slug' 'non woman' etc by a group then you would feel horrible, of course you would, whether you used the word bully or not.

Jale definitely deserves support. The way they are acting towards her is a disgrace. Amazing she has kept her cool and her sense of humour in the face of all their bile.

[Me. I Am Salman]

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[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

When have they made fun of Jale's looks

They said Jale looked like a man.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

Toya is not a Bully AT ALL, none of them are, I'm not saying I like them because I hate Steven but can we stop with the Bully word none of the HM are being Bullied at all

Every other year when the word bully is used, I've said the same thing. This year... no... it is bullying.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Agreed. Disliking people you aren't friends with/arguing with them and bullying are two different things.

Singling them out, talking about them behind their backs, making them feel like sh1t... that's bullying. I'm surprised you can't see it and wonder what it is that's blinding you.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Singling them out, talking about them behind their backs, making them feel like sh1t... that's bullying. I'm surprised you can't see it and wonder what it is that's blinding you.

Yep, making them feel so uncomfortable when they enter a room that they feel they have to leave........

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by MichaelSpears

Pauline, Steven, Toya, and Helen aka The Bullies clearly have this idea that if they continue to ademently deny any wrong doing towards Jale (mainly Pauline and Steven) then the public will believe them and think that Jale is just trying to play the victim. Even though we have seen them bullying Jale and know that she really is being ostracized and picked on in a complete mob mentality way.

And even more by tacticly trying to make Jale look like the bad one, they are doing it even more, and thus making themselves look worse.

It's gone from a simple clash of personalities (or more like brainwashing from Pauline because Jale was a threat to her intial popularity), to real uncomfortable viewing and behaviour. Of course it is bullying to make these remarks about somebody based on their physical appearance - 'Non Woman', 'Slug', etc...
and for Toya to threaten violence against Jale just because she made a simple throwaway joke.
Even with the situation with Helen's lip balm. It wasn't a big deal at all and you could just see that Helen knew that it was a prime opportunity to make Jale feel small and humiliate her in front of everyone.

If the public have any sense, they will see through the bullies attempt at rehabilitating their image and will support Jale all the way.

You forgot Kim whos also a bully

[Marsh.]

Walking passed Jale sitting in the living room, all successively giving her dirty looks, Helen making a passive aggressive comment and then Kim and Helen working out what Kim should say in the garden like 5 year olds.

I'd like to hear an argument for that not being bullying. It's as obvious as though it were a playground.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

When have they made fun of Jale's looks

Calling her slug ?

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

You forgot Kim whos also a bully

no...

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

no...

Yes, her plotting with Helen about what to say to Jale to make Jale believe she's her friend and that she can trust her.

That tactic is straight out of primary school.

[Livia]

Kimberly is very passive aggressive, I think.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Agreed. Disliking people you aren't friends with/arguing with them and bullying are two different things.

But, that's not an accurate description of what's happening.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes, her plotting with Helen about what to say to Jale to make Jale believe she's her friend and that she can trust her.

That tactic is straight out of primary school.

It's disgusting and cruel

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

You forgot Kim whos also a bully

How is Kim a bully?

She did that plan with Helen but who knows what that was about.

Considering Jale considered Kimberly a fried then I really don't think she feels bullied by Kimberly.

How ridiculous.

[InOne]

I'd just like to clarify for everyone that Kimberly is not a bully.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

You forgot Kim whos also a bully

omg I can't believe this how is Kim a bully

[Livia]

I don't think that Kimberly is a bully, but she's associating with the bullies and her nature seems very passive aggressive.

[wendywillow]

lol now kim is a bully?? because shes trying to play the game? this has gotten nuts

[jet]

For those who don't think Jale is being bullied:
1: How would you feel in her position?
2: How would you class what is happening to you as?
2: What would you do in her position?