[Mystic Mock]

Winston is considered some class act, we obviously know that they share a similar demograph, but they clearly favour Winston over Ash and here is their contributions to the series.

Ash:
1. He argued on Toya.

2. He told Jale to put that Water back in the pool.

3. He called Jale a Maggot.

4. He told Matthew that he would rip him apart lyrically.

5. When shown all this stuff back to himself he told Danielle that it's not that bad.

6. His a gossip and can wind situations up.

7. He told BB that they could screw themselves with the cork if they pull another twist like that out again.

8. He told Ashleigh that they would've been friends 6 weeks ago if it wasn't for the old fart (Danielle)

9. His friendship with Helen can be good fun on some occasions.

Winston:
1. Bang girls.

2. Started up two showmances with Tamara and Danielle.

3. Has been completely sexist but has never been picked up on it by the public. (I can bag any girl once I'm outside the house I'll just use Biannca was his basic meaning)

4. Argued on Marlon for pushing the button and then completely disowned him.

5. His just another TOWIE reject, only the funny thing is that he wasn't even born in Essex so his a complete fraud with that accent that he puts on.

Rant over.

[erinp5]

He is and so is Winston .

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Winston is considered some class act, we obviously know that they share a similar demograph, but they clearly favour Winston over Ash and here is their contributions to the series.

Ash:
1. He argued on Toya.

2. He told Jale to put that Water back in the pool.

3. He called Jale a Maggot.

4. He told Matthew that he would rip him apart lyrically.

5. When shown all this stuff back to himself he told Danielle that it's not that bad.

6. His a gossip and can wind situations up.

7. He told BB that they could screw themselves with the cork if they pull another twist like that out again.

8. He told Ashleigh that they would've been friends 6 weeks ago if it wasn't for the old fart (Danielle)

9. His friendship with Helen can be good fun on some occasions.

Winston:
1. Bang girls.

2. Started up two showmances with Tamara and Danielle.

3. Has been completely sexist but has never been picked up on it by the public. (I can bag any girl once I'm outside the house I'll just use Biannca was his basic meaning)

4. Argued on Marlon for pushing the button and then completely disowned him.

5. His just another TOWIE reject, only the funny thing is that he wasn't even born in Essex so his a complete fraud with that accent that he puts on.

Rant over.

I don't think Ash is boring Mock,I really like him and think he is underrated as a housemate.

[rubymoo]

I quite like Ash too!

Never found him offensive, he just has school boy humour (don't a lot of people?)

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

I quite like Ash too!

Never found him offensive, he just has school boy humour (don't a lot of people?)

Yes rubymoo,good point.

[Pete.]

I agree with OP - Ash is vile and Winston is boring

[Heaven = Winner]

I'd say Ash is pretty boring tbh. He was interesting during that argument he had with Toya, but ever since, I just haven't been interested by him at all.

Winston's even more boring tho.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

1. He argued on Toya.

2. He told Jale to put that Water back in the pool.

3. He called Jale a Maggot.

4. He told Matthew that he would rip him apart lyrically.

5. When shown all this stuff back to himself he told Danielle that it's not that bad.

6. His a gossip and can wind situations up.

7. He told BB that they could screw themselves with the cork if they pull another twist like that out again.

8. He told Ashleigh that they would've been friends 6 weeks ago if it wasn't for the old fart (Danielle)

9. His friendship with Helen can be good fun on some occasions.

1. No, Toya argued with Ash. That was purely a Toya moment. Swap Ash out with a cardboard cutout and you would have the same net effect.
2. Okay?
3. Okay?
4. Okay?
5. Okay?
6. Well he hasn't done a great job at winding situations up then.
7. Cool?
8. K?
9. eh that's debatable.

So yeah, he's been a ridiculous bore and has negative charisma. This isn't even defending Winston, whose only personality trait is flexing his biceps. Ash and Winston are two sides of the same, ridiculously boring coin.

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

I quite like Ash too!

Never found him offensive, he just has school boy humour (don't a lot of people?)

It's not school boy humour to attack several females as pricks and maggots

[abhorson]

Both are not worthy.

[Josy]

I don't think he's boring.

[Lex]

To be totally honest with you Mockinator....I think that they are both boring Hm's...but I totally agree that Ash is a far more genuine person than Winston [who like it or not.... is destined to win the series!]
Winston has not remotely fooled me from day one....but I have to admit that I badly misjudged Ash...and have only recently come to the conclusion that he is in fact...A nice lad! [still a bit boring though. lol]

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Ash is funny.

I don't think he has been boring at all. Him and Helen have made this series for me.

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

It's not school boy humour to attack several females as pricks and maggots

A lot of school boys refer to girls and boys with far worse terminology than pricks and maggots.

[MojoNixon]

"Aaaaaah Aaaaaaahh! Ah Ah!" That's Ash. Nothing else. Oh and he cuddles with Helen.

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

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Yes rubymoo,good point.

Thanks Joey

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Ash is funny.

I don't think he has been boring at all. Him and Helen have made this series for me.

Same here, they can actually have a laugh instead of being miserable all the time, or pretending to be happy all the time, they're actual Human Beings lol.

[Northern Monkey]

Honestly he does bore me,He's not funny or witty and not argued with anyone for ages,All he's done is just tell Helen he "can't be arsed".Winston is also boring but sometimes says something amusing so is slightly less boring.

[reece(:]

They're both boring & add nothing.

[rubymoo]

May be it's a sad but true fact that when observing people, after a while they become boring. Everyone wants them to entertain or perform and when they do they're being fake or playing a game, they're sort of stuck between a rock and a hard place!