[Locke.]

If they had hit Frenchy when they jumped up and fronted her, would the people calling her a woman be outraged because it was a man hitting a woman, or would they treat it the same way they'd treat any girl hitting another girl?

Keep in mind Kellie's "transformation" isn't anywhere near complete.

[Shaun]

I'd treat it as a person hitting another person... it's always wrong

[Locke.]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I'd treat it as a person hitting another person... it's always wrong

But we all know men hitting women is always looked upon in a totally different light than a man hitting a man or woman hitting a woman

[Scream]

umm idk but i get what you mean, even though it should be the same...i think i'd still look at it extremely badly

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Locke.

But we all know men hitting women is always looked upon in a totally different light than a man hitting a man or woman hitting a woman

well that's just an old-fashioned attitude that needs to die out

[Brother Leon]

That is the first thing I thought of. It was weird seeing the encounter tbh.

[PrincessIona]

They? It's 1 person not 2! Either way it's wrong, the concern is Kellie will have a mans strength

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I'd treat it as a person hitting another person... it's always wrong

Not always

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Craigy_CraigO

Not always

well, OK, in examples of self-defence it's OK, but I can't think of any other examples? (unless it's a playful slap and therefore not assault at all...)

[Northern Monkey]

Ha,I was gonna make this thread too.Imagine if Kellie had slotted her?She'd have knocked her clean out.Woman beating or just a girl fight?

[Pete.]

She was more aggressive in the fight anyway

[Amy Jade]

Kellie as of now is still a male, I respect her decision to become a woman fully but she is still a male under the wig and clothes so squaring up to a woman is unacceptable.

Especially over something so trivial.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by PrincessIona

They? It's 1 person not 2!

they

1. used to refer to two or more people or things previously mentioned or easily identified.

2. used to refer to a person of unspecified sex.
"ask a friend if they could help"

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[PrincessIona]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

.

I stand corrected! Not heard it used in this sort of context before

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I'd treat it as a person hitting another person... it's always wrong

..this really, it would be the same regardless of sex..it was equally as bad and aggressive when Emma ..was it Emma..?..was potentially threatening with Victor and was ejected...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Locke.

If they had hit Frenchy when they jumped up and fronted her, would the people calling her a woman be outraged because it was a man hitting a woman, or would they treat it the same way they'd treat any girl hitting another girl?

Keep in mind Kellie's "transformation" isn't anywhere near complete.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

..I'm not going to read the article but I presume it's something that she has said in the house...there is no context to that headline though...maybe she was saying she finds it hard to be public about it all or just hard in general...and it was 'easier' to live as a male...

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Locke.

If they had hit Frenchy when they jumped up and fronted her, would the people calling her a woman be outraged because it was a man hitting a woman, or would they treat it the same way they'd treat any girl hitting another girl?

Keep in mind Kellie's "transformation" isn't anywhere near complete.

Brilliant question !! I think it would have soon gone to "But he's still a man "

[FlippingEck]

Originally Posted by Shaun

well that's just an old-fashioned attitude that needs to die out

I disagree... no man should ever square up to a woman. In the eyes of the law "Kellie" is still a man. "She" very quickly reverted back to male with the threatening attitude and puffed out chest when "she" squared up to Frenchie. I don't like Frenchie, and I am sure had I been in the bedroom when she was prancing around like a tit at god knows what time, I would have kicked her bony ass out of there so quick but "Kellie" showed "her" true colours right there and then.. The fake meditation and fake emotion is just too much to bear... makes me want to vom.

[FlippingEck]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..there is no context to that headline though......

You will never find context in a newspaper headline. That is not the purpose of them. They are there to tempt the drooling knuckledragging chavs to buy the tabloids...
I cannot help but think that this "transformation" is all for a reason... and it smells distinctly like bull**** wrapped in a desperation for recognition and money..

[billy123]

Originally Posted by FlippingEck

I disagree... no man should ever square up to a woman. In the eyes of the law "Kellie" is still a man. "She" very quickly reverted back to male with the threatening attitude and puffed out chest when "she" squared up to Frenchie. I don't like Frenchie, and I am sure had I been in the bedroom when she was prancing around like a tit at god knows what time, I would have kicked her bony ass out of there so quick but "Kellie" showed "her" true colours right there and then.. The fake meditation and fake emotion is just too much to bear... makes me want to vom.

And no woman should ever square up to a man its the same thing unless you are going to be naive and sexist about it.
Its just ignorant and stupid to differentiate between the two they are equally unacceptable acts.

The gender of anyone is completely irrelevant.

[FlippingEck]

Originally Posted by bobnot

And no woman should ever square up to a man its the same thing unless you are going to be naive and sexist about it.
Its just ignorant and stupid to differentiate between the two they are equally unacceptable acts.

The gender of anyone is completely irrelevant.

I totally agree bobnot, Im not being sexist, ignorant or stupid... but Frenchie did not square up to "Kellie"

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by FlippingEck

You will never find context in a newspaper headline. That is not the purpose of them. They are there to tempt the drooling knuckledragging chavs to buy the tabloids...
I cannot help but think that this "transformation" is all for a reason... and it smells distinctly like bull**** wrapped in a desperation for recognition and money..

Ive been saying this from the moment she walked into the house.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by FlippingEck

I totally agree bobnot, Im not being sexist, ignorant or stupid... but Frenchie did not square up to "Kellie"

I was referring to your post and not you as a person btw.
The sex of anyone in this situation is completely redundant so the fact it has been brought up by the thread starter is just stupid.

The hypothetical question of who hitting who and what sex they are and how it should be seen is just daft its all the same thing and should be treated as such.

[FlippingEck]

rightly or wrongly, it is still deemed worse for a man to square up to a woman... and im probably just a bit old fashioned..