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Cherie · 23-08-2014, 08:55 AM

Leslie had a get out of jail card when James offered to go out but he totally ignored him and chose Gary, at least with Frenchy he asked her "will you go"? with Gary he just wanted him out there, no compassion, no kindness (his favourite word), so yes I can blame Leslie! odious man.

ruiphillips · 23-08-2014, 08:57 AM

Aw, bless. It's a game and Leslie played it wrong.

Will. · 23-08-2014, 09:03 AM

Imagine being in his situation, Im pretty sure he must have not heard James due to panicking, he had hardly anytime to think and probably just didt know what to do! Plus BB hardly mentioned the least entertaining thing.

Cherie · 23-08-2014, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Willbrick1999

Imagine being in his situation, Im pretty sure he must have not heard James due to panicking, he had hardly anytime to think and probably just didt know what to do! Plus BB hardly mentioned the least entertaining thing.

He is all about the kindness though and being nice etc, Gary was trying to tell him about the compound fracture in his back and he just ignored him! He was never going to be swayed from Gary no matter how much time he was given.

Ammi · 23-08-2014, 09:08 AM

..he did ask Frenchie but she said no and he ignored her as well..I do think these decisions are made so quickly and maybe not always taking in what other housemates are saying...?...but I'm sure that the fact that he's had issues/altercations with Gary and Frenchie did have a big play in his choice as well....so yeah, he can be 'blamed' I think but not vilified for his choice...I'm not saying that anyone here is but I just can't see many making a different choice than he did if they also had altercations with two housemates just before they were asked to make the choice....I think maybe only Audley may have....

Will. · 23-08-2014, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

He is all about the kindness though and being nice etc, Gary was trying to tell him about the compound fracture in his back and he just ignored him! He was never going to be swayed from Gary no matter how much time he was given.

I still don't get why he couldn't sleep outside, is because the matress wont be soft enough or something.

jessicadanielle · 23-08-2014, 09:12 AM

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I still don't get why he couldn't sleep outside, is because the matress wont be soft enough or something.

Maybe. Or maybe his back would cease up in the cold? Bit of both?

Will. · 23-08-2014, 09:14 AM

[QUOTE=jessicadanielle;7198618]Maybe. Or maybe his back would cease up in the cold? Bit of both?[/]

yeah strange! maybe he just uses as a excuse when he perfectly good to sleep outside!

Cherie · 23-08-2014, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Willbrick1999

I still don't get why he couldn't sleep outside, is because the matress wont be soft enough or something.

Did you see live feed Will? there was no bed, they had to sit up on a chaise lounge?

FlippingEck · 23-08-2014, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Willbrick1999

Imagine being in his situation, Im pretty sure he must have not heard James due to panicking, he had hardly anytime to think and probably just didt know what to do! Plus BB hardly mentioned the least entertaining thing.

to be fair, he did hear James and Audley, because he said clearly NO, not you two.. I couldn't do it....

Im sorry but it is a game. Whoever was chosen last night to be SOTS would not have sat there and though who do I think is the least entertaining... it would have been right.. who is getting on my tits.... it's human nature to do that.. They are all there to play the game, all signed up for the same thing, no special treatment, it's tough.

Cherie · 23-08-2014, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

..he did ask Frenchie but she said no and he ignored her as well..I do think these decisions are made so quickly and maybe not always taking in what other housemates are saying...?...but I'm sure that the fact that he's had issues/altercations with Gary and Frenchie did have a big play in his choice as well....so yeah, he can be 'blamed' I think but not vilified for his choice...I'm not saying that anyone here is but I just can't see many making a different choice than he did if they also had altercations with two housemates just before they were asked to make the choice....I think maybe only Audley may have....

I do think he can be vilified, he kept going on about people being kind, but it only applies to people being kind TO HIM, not HIM being kind to others

Ammi · 23-08-2014, 09:17 AM

.. may have back problems/joint problems or something..?...and it would irritate it in the sleeping position he would be in...hopefully BB will show why he didn't stay there..but I think for me the 'blame' is more with BB for designing a task that wasn't appropriate for all housemates...

Cherie · 23-08-2014, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

.. may have back problems/joint problems or something..?...and it would irritate it in the sleeping position he would be in...hopefully BB will show why he didn't stay there..but I think for me the 'blame' is more with BB for designing a task that wasn't appropriate for all housemates...

Gary told Leslie he had a compound fracture of his back Ammi, and he was still chosen, what tipped it for me was Leslie saying to him afterwards you should go if you can't do it, you need to leave or similar, Leslie wants him out he doesn't like playing second fiddle with his Emmy to Gary's Oscar.

Ammi · 23-08-2014, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

I do think he can be vilified, he kept going on about people being kind, but it only applies to people being kind TO HIM, not HIM being kind to others

..yeah I do understand what you're saying Cherie but I just don't think many would have chosen differently given the recent altercations and issues they'd had so I would have to 'vilify' them all to be fair about it..

...maybe one or two would but not many I don't feel...I do think the people to be 'vilified' are BB as they set up these situations and they would know if a housemates shouldn't participate for health reasons...

Jules2 · 23-08-2014, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ruiphillips

Aw, bless. It's a game and Leslie played it wrong.

We know it is a game but at the moment it is a nasty game and how long has it been going? Leslie has shown himself to be a nasty little squirt and he has the others in his little finger. James began it, Leslie carries it on and the others are like sheep. As I said, it is a nasty game, conquer and divide and take no prisoners.

Ammi · 23-08-2014, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Gary told Leslie he had a compound fracture of his back Ammi, and he was still chosen, what tipped it for me was Leslie saying to him afterwards you should go if you can't do it, you need to leave or similar, Leslie wants him out he doesn't like playing second fiddle with his Emmy to Gary's Oscar.

..I'm not sure it's Oscar related, I think that Leslie just hasn't 'forgiven and forgotten' the recent issues...but do these housemates ever even when they say they do..?...

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MrWong · 23-08-2014, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

I do think he can be vilified, he kept going on about people being kind, but it only applies to people being kind TO HIM, not HIM being kind to others

Exactly. What he did was incredibly unkind considering he had James and David volunteering to take Gary's place.

FlippingEck · 23-08-2014, 09:25 AM

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I do think he can be vilified, he kept going on about people being kind, but it only applies to people being kind TO HIM, not HIM being kind to others

Are you always kind to people you find irritating, hurtful, rude and offensive?

Will. · 23-08-2014, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Did you see live feed Will? there was no bed, they had to sit up on a chaise lounge?

There quite comfortable, I've slept on one before and have night epilepsy. The only reason I can see why he refused if he had epilepsy and if you have a fit and fall off then you could potentially die! That's why I have to sleep in a double bed. But maybe if he fell off his back would be messed up.

Jules2 · 23-08-2014, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by FlippingEck

to be fair, he did hear James and Audley, because he said clearly NO, not you two.. I couldn't do it....

Im sorry but it is a game. Whoever was chosen last night to be SOTS would not have sat there and though who do I think is the least entertaining... it would have been right.. who is getting on my tits.... it's human nature to do that.. They are all there to play the game, all signed up for the same thing, no special treatment, it's tough.

Special treatment has been given to many of the CBB inmates in past series. Many have been allowed not to take part in tasks because of medical conditions. As these celebs have been sought after by producers or the powers that be, then they should have a code of care.

They like to mix the ages, they know a HMs background. If celebrities with medical conditions are not allowed to take part, then we the viewer will lose out. Many are now elderly with troubles but we enjoy their input and their tales of famous people.

For once in their life they have done the right thing and brought Gary in, I have no doubt though that he will get a lot of flack from the other ignorant HMs. Heaven help them when they get old and have a lot of troubles. What goes around comes around, it may take a while but..............

Let Leslie have his moment, his ego is great but his fall will hurt......

FlippingEck · 23-08-2014, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Gary told Leslie he had a compound fracture of his back Ammi, and he was still chosen, what tipped it for me was Leslie saying to him afterwards you should go if you can't do it, you need to leave or similar, Leslie wants him out he doesn't like playing second fiddle with his Emmy to Gary's Oscar.

A compound fracture of his back? Hmmm really??? Im no medic but Im pretty sure if he;d have had a compound fracture of his back, that would have almost certainly led to total paralysis..

Oh and Busey was NOMINATED in 1978 for an Oscar.. he didn't win one.. He hasn't won an award since 1980 which was the bafta for the buddy holly story.. Leslie Jordan however won the Primetime Emmy for W&G in 2006.. I doubt Leslie feels intimidated by Busey's massive haul of awards..

Jules2 · 23-08-2014, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Willbrick1999

There quite comfortable, I've slept on one before and have night epilepsy. The only eras on I can see why he refused if he had epilepsy and if you have a fit and fall of then you could potentially die! That's why I have to sleep in a double bed.

I have RA and if I am not able to sleep in the right position, I suffer. Gary most likely has some form of arthritus as I believe he had extensive surgery.

Ammi · 23-08-2014, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jules2

Special treatment has been given to many of the CBB inmates in past series. Many have been allowed not to take part in tasks because of medical conditions. As these celebs have been sought after by producers or the powers that be, then they should have a code of care.

They like to mix the ages, they know a HMs background. If celebrities with medical conditions are not allowed to take part, then we the viewer will lose out. Many are now elderly with troubles but we enjoy their input and their tales of famous people.

For once in their life they have done the right thing and brought Gary in, I have no doubt though that he will get a lot of flack from the other ignorant HMs. Heaven help them when they get old and have a lot of troubles. What goes around comes around, it may take a while but..............

Let Leslie have his moment, his ego is great but his fall will hurt......

..maybe criticism from viewers as well..?..I do think it's great to have varied age housemates and this is a good housemix but I also think that tasks should be designed to fit all so none need to feel 'exempt' in any way...

Will. · 23-08-2014, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jules2

I have RA and if I am not able to sleep in the right position, I suffer. Gary most likely has some form of arthritus as I believe he had extensive surgery.

Yes probably but he kept saying he has brain surgery, but is that an excuse or maybe if he hit his head it could cause serious damage, I would like to see his medical report.

Tip · 23-08-2014, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by FlippingEck

A compound fracture of his back? Hmmm really??? Im no medic but Im pretty sure if he;d have had a compound fracture of his back, that would have almost certainly led to total paralysis..

If the fracture is due to osteoporosis (not uncommon in the elderly) then often they'll be no spinal cord involvement - so no paralysis.

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