[Miranda123]

In 2004, before any Hormone treatment, Frank Maloney was the UKIP candidate for Mayor of London

He said that he wouldnt campaign in Camden because it was full of gays

He said "I dont want to campaign around gays, I dont think they do a lot for society"

He said while he did not have a problem with a lot of parades in London, "there is a problem with gay parades".

He went on to say "I object to seeing policemen in uniform holding hands in public - it's not a family way of life and we should support the family more.

After his 'Queen' remark to Leslie, does anyone really believe the whole Kellie thing??

Or does anyone else think its a ruse to make a lot of money and that the homophobic Frank will be back in trousers and a shirt as soon as he rinses every drop of money he can get out of the "Kellie Story"

[jessicadanielle]

I think that becoming Kellie shouldn't have an effect on her views on gays at all. Transsexual and homosexual aren't the same. You can have homophobic transsexuals and transphobic homosexuals.

I don't know whether I believe the Kellie transition, but Frank's homophobia gives me no reason not to believe it. His homophobia could have been a projection of his unacceptance of feelings of being a woman.

[the truth]

he was always a nasty piece of work.

[Kizzy]

Maybe she was at the time wrestling with a few demons?...

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

I think that becoming Kellie shouldn't have an effect on her views on gays at all. Transsexual and homosexual aren't the same. You can have homophobic transsexuals and transphobic homosexuals.

I don't know whether I believe the Kellie transition, but Frank's homophobia gives me no reason not to believe it. His homophobia could have been a projection of his unacceptance of feelings of being a woman.

to clarify, Im not saying that you cant be a homophobic transexual

just trying to shine a light on the real Frank/Kellie

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Maybe she was at the time wrestling with a few demons?...

but she needs to 'box clever' to stay in the house

[michael21]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Maybe she was at the time wrestling with a few demons?...

no boxing not wrestling

[Livia]

So when Kellie was Frank she said some daft stuff. That was ten years ago, maybe she even believed it back then... although I doubt it. During the last BB we were continually told by Helen fans that what she did previously had no bearing on her now. The same could be said in this case.

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by Livia

So when Kellie was Frank she said some daft stuff. That was ten years ago, maybe she even believed it back then... although I doubt it. During the last BB we were continually told by Helen fans that what she did previously had no bearing on her now. The same could be said in this case.

Kellie said similar to Leslie though.

[the truth]

i dont care what he said occasionally about over sensitive gay people. i do think in general has was always unpleasant though

[LukeB]

get frank out

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by the truth

i dont care what he said occasionally about over sensitive gay people. i do think in general has was always unpleasant though

Over sensitive gay people?.. So gay people who get offended by homophobia are over sensitive?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Over sensitive gay people?.. So gay people who get offended by homophobia are over sensitive?

you dont even care about babies being murdered in the womb so you can fall off your high horse

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by the truth

you dont even care about babies being murdered in the womb so you can fall off your high horse

That's a completely different thread and topic, leave it there, it has no relevance here whatsoever.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Livia

So when Kellie was Frank she said some daft stuff. That was ten years ago, maybe she even believed it back then... although I doubt it. During the last BB we were continually told by Helen fans that what she did previously had no bearing on her now. The same could be said in this case.

I would go along with that, if it wasnt for his/her reaction to Leslie in an argument
If the first thing that comes into your head is to call him a little queen, then I think that kind of stuff is at the forefront of your mind

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by the truth

you dont even care about babies being murdered in the womb so you can fall off your high horse

ok.................getting a little weird here

relevance to this thread?

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by the truth

i dont care what he said occasionally about over sensitive gay people. i do think in general has was always unpleasant though

over sensitive? really?

I know a few gay guys who would have punched Frank for that remark

I think Leslie dealt with it well

[CaudleHalbard]

I know some large muscular gay guys who would have thrown Kellie-Frank in the dustbin!

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

That's a completely different thread and topic, leave it there, it has no relevance here whatsoever.

this^

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

In 2004, before any Hormone treatment, Frank Maloney was the UKIP candidate for Mayor of London

He said that he wouldnt campaign in Camden because it was full of gays

He said "I dont want to campaign around gays, I dont think they do a lot for society"

He said while he did not have a problem with a lot of parades in London, "there is a problem with gay parades".

He went on to say "I object to seeing policemen in uniform holding hands in public - it's not a family way of life and we should support the family more.

After his 'Queen' remark to Leslie, does anyone really believe the whole Kellie thing??

Or does anyone else think its a ruse to make a lot of money and that the homophobic Frank will be back in trousers and a shirt as soon as he rinses every drop of money he can get out of the "Kellie Story"

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

I would go along with that, if it wasnt for his/her reaction to Leslie in an argument
If the first thing that comes into your head is to call him a little queen, then I think that kind of stuff is at the forefront of your mind

Fair comment... I didn't hear her say that.