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Old 26-08-2014, 08:55 PM #26
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It's awful that we're doubting someone's gender identity. If she says she is a woman, she is a woman. Simple as that.
It's not awful.. people don't believe her story because of things they've seen, she wasn't very nice as Frank and even though she claims to want to be a different person and is starting to become a different person, we have seen the same traits as she had when she was Frank, its peoples right to doubt the story.. but as i said earlier, if it is true, then best of luck to her, but i personally don't believe it.
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i didn't say they were?
It's being made out that the whole situation with Kellie can't be real just because she still has her views on gay people from when she was Frank, two things which are pretty much completely unrelated
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It's not awful.. people don't believe her story because of things they've seen, she wasn't very nice as Frank and even though she claims to want to be a different person and is starting to become a different person, we have seen the same traits as she had when she was Frank, its peoples right to doubt the story.. but as i said earlier, if it is true, then best of luck to her, but i personally don't believe it.
I don't understand why people think she should have completely different character traits just because she's become a woman?
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It's not awful.. people don't believe her story because of things they've seen, she wasn't very nice as Frank and even though she claims to want to be a different person and is starting to become a different person, we have seen the same traits as she had when she was Frank, its peoples right to doubt the story.. but as i said earlier, if it is true, then best of luck to her, but i personally don't believe it.
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It's being made out that the whole situation with Kellie can't be real just because she still has her views on gay people from when she was Frank, two things which are pretty much completely unrelated
What I meant is that Kellie keeps putting across this image that her and Frank are two completely different people and that she's "changed" when she's really the same person, just with a different gender.
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just because i made this thread does not mean its disgusting! im asking others people opinions.
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What I meant is that Kellie keeps putting across this image that her and Frank are two completely different people and that she's "changed" when she's really the same person, just with a different gender.
Fair point, but the question was 'does frank really wanna be a girl? or is it a scam?', not 'has her behaviour changed now that she's transitioning?' - personally, I think she's just trying to fool herself that she's becoming a new person with a new persona, and that she isn't really proud of what she was before
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i don't see any feminine traits in her!
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To those who believe Kellie is a scam because she's as much of an arsehole as she used to be when she was Frank...

In that case, couldn't it be that Kellie is pretending to be a completely changed personality just because she wasn't the most likeable person when she was Frank so wants to pretend to be a nicer person, but is genuinely going through a transition from man to woman? Hope that makes sense.. She could truly be transitioning from man to woman but faking that she's now a lovely person who would never do what Frank did to improve her public image?

(I don't know anything about Frank from before so can't comment on how much of a twat he is or isn't)
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there is nothing wrong in questioning someone on bigbrother even if it involves their transition from a man to a woman.
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To those who believe Kellie is a scam because she's as much of an arsehole as she used to be when she was Frank...

In that case, couldn't it be that Kellie is pretending to be a completely changed personality just because she wasn't the most likeable person when she was Frank so wants to pretend to be a nicer person, but is genuinely going through a transition from man to woman? Hope that makes sense.. She could truly be transitioning from man to woman but faking that she's now a lovely person who would never do what Frank did to improve her public image?

(I don't know anything about Frank from before so can't comment on how much of a twat he is or isn't)
If she's trying to pretend to be a nicer person, she's certainly not doing a very good job
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I don't think the gender identity of a Housemate should be the subject of a discussion on whether it's a real thing or a scam. I'm not a fan of Kellie, but I don't think that we should speculate on this.

I respect how hard it is for someone like Kellie to enter the Big Brother House in such a fragile time in their life. Maybe she's just struggling under the pressure in the House.
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If she's trying to pretend to be a nicer person, she's certainly not doing a very good job
Ha I agree! Nasty little swine..

People just seem confused that Kellie isn't a completely different person to Frank but I don't get why she should be?
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I want live my life as a King, I'd like you all to address me as Your Majesty from now on.

"We could have been anything that we wanted to be"
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This thread is disgusting... Plausible... But very disgusting.
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Ha I agree! Nasty little swine..

People just seem confused that Kellie isn't a completely different person to Frank but I don't get why she should be?
Because she keeps saying that she wants to put Frank behind her and start a new page.. if that was true, she'd take a step back from everything that Frank was known to be like, eg; the aggression and the homophobia, plus she brings Frank up every 5 minutes, which someone who wants to forget their past and the person they used to be, wouldn't do.
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What nastiness has she displayed?
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Thought provoking thread, is her whole situation a scam to get .... What ??

Money, from CBB, or a magazine deal ??

Really ?? Sounds a little far fetched to me that the whole thing is a scam.
Doctors and other health professionals can testify to her situation and recent medical history.

I don't think its a scam... If it is then its a very brazen one.




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its only tibb, I would not worry about it.
its not wrong to question who you are watching!
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I said it from day one, follow the Oracle folks, he is good at reading people, been proved right loads of times.
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Because she keeps saying that she wants to put Frank behind her and start a new page.. if that was true, she'd take a step back from everything that Frank was known to be like, eg; the aggression and the homophobia, plus she brings Frank up every 5 minutes, which someone who wants to forget their past and the person they used to be, wouldn't do.
I'm still not sure that her lack of change indicates that her transition is fake. Maybe she expects that becoming a woman will replenish her which is a strange and unrealistic expectation imo (though I don't know much about sex changes tbh so dunno).

But yeah I agree that it's weird that she constantly brings up Frank. I would have thought that anybody truly dedicated to becoming the "new them" would hardly even remember that they used to be a different person.

It's also weird that she speaks about how she's always known that she was a woman inside, but then refers to Frank and Kellie as like different people with different characters and seems to expect that all of sudden he'll change from one to the other. It's almost like she has to try to be a new person named Kellie, rather than finally accepting that she is Kellie. The more I think about it, the more suspicious I become.
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What nastiness has she displayed?
Her aggression, her homophobic language, her hostility, her bitchiness, need i continue?
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