[LeatherTrumpet]

I have been reading a few threads and have discovered that Gary is 70



70 whole years

And what other things I have found out is he has had brain surgery, is deaf, and is a famous film star


Its amazing the things you pick up strolling around the cool marble corridors of Tibb Towers. Next I aim to find out just how old Ashleigh is...

[Liam-]

[HBB1508]

OMG stop the press this is such a scoop

[Jords]

not funny but I like the Dwight gif

[mizzy25]

pmsl

[Josy]

70 and yet never once bitched or bad mouthed ANY of the younger housemates that feel the need to do it to him.

What a guy

[Jack_]

lol this is actually true, people hated it when Ashleigh's age was mentioned and use to justify certain things and yet now the same people are constantly saying Gary's 70 ageism and double standards much?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

lol this is actually true, people hated it when Ashleigh's age was mentioned and use to justify certain things and yet now the same people are constantly saying Gary's 70 ageism and double standards much?

Well no not really if you think a bit more more about it than just OMFG AGEISM!

People on here are posting things they dislike about Gary and that includes ailments that come with age, last I checked Ashleigh never had any physical problems due to her age?

I couldn't give a **** what age Gary was though, I like him and find him one of the most entertaining and interesting people in there.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

Well no not really if you think a bit more more about it than just OMFG AGEISM!

People on here are posting things they dislike about Gary and that includes ailments that come with age, last I checked Ashleigh never had any physical problems due to her age?

I couldn't give a **** what age Gary was though, I like him and find him one of the most entertaining and interesting people in there.

Rudeness and ungratefulness doesn't come with age though does it?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Rudeness and ungratefulness doesn't come with age though does it?

Well it depends on the person I suppose but in general no that's why I mentioned physical problems and ailments and neither of those you just mentioned

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

Well it depends on the person I suppose but in general no that's why I mentioned physical problems and ailments and neither of those you just mentioned

I know i didn't, i was clarifying that people dislike him for more reasons than 'people have to repeat themselves' .. and rudeness is never acceptable and shouldn't just be excused because of someone's age.
People say about teenagers over 14 that 'they're old enough to know better' then why shouldn't older people know any better considering they have so much life experience?

[arista]

Yes LT 70
and still going


Not Bad

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

I know i didn't, i was clarifying that people dislike him for more reasons than 'people have to repeat themselves' .. and rudeness is never acceptable and shouldn't just be excused because of someone's age.
People say about teenagers over 14 that 'they're old enough to know better' then why shouldn't older people know any better considering they have so much life experience?

I know people dislike him for more reasons which is why I posted above 'includes'....

And I can't possibly answer your question on behalf of these people that say what you are saying about over 14 year olds because I'm not one of them.

Some old people do get grumpy and rude as they get older, it's just what happens, maybe they are sick of seeing the same **** from the same people constantly I have no idea

[arista]

Its great to have a Grumpy American
better than that
utter ponce James

[Niamh.]

I don't know why people get so annoyed when a HMs age is brought into an argument, it's silly to think that it's not relevant sometimes especially with particularly old/young HMs

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

I know people dislike him for more reasons which is why I posted above 'includes'....

And I can't possibly answer your question on behalf of these people that say what you are saying about over 14 year olds because I'm not one of them.

Some old people do get grumpy and rude as they get older, it's just what happens, maybe they are sick of seeing the same **** from the same people constantly I have no idea

It's quite a common thing, if a teenager is being rude to someone or ungrateful a lot of people would say that they should know better, i don't understand how someone's age should qualify them to get away with being rude, i understand that older people get grumpy and stuff, but everyone gets grumpy sometimes and if a younger housemate gets grumpy and is rude, they get pulled up on it, yet Gary apparently gets to be as rude as he wants and is excused for it because of his age, idgi.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

It's quite a common thing, if a teenager is being rude to someone or ungrateful a lot of people would say that they should know better, i don't understand how someone's age should qualify them to get away with being rude, i understand that older people get grumpy and stuff, but everyone gets grumpy sometimes and if a younger housemate gets grumpy and is rude, they get pulled up on it, yet Gary apparently gets to be as rude as he wants and is excused for it because of his age, idgi.

I don't where you are coming up with 'Someone is older it's ok if they are rude' though?

I have seen plenty of posts about Gary saying he is rude so what exactly is your point in relation to my posts above? I never mentioned rudeness in regards to age at all.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

I don't where you are coming up with 'Someone is older it's ok if they are rude' though?

I have seen plenty of posts about Gary saying he is rude so what exactly is your point in relation to my posts above? I never mentioned rudeness in regards to age at all.

Originally Posted by Josy

Some old people do get grumpy and rude as they get older, it's just what happens,

You did refer to rudeness as a part of being old though.. you said 'it's just what happens' as if to excuse it and make it okay.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

You did refer to rudeness as a part of being old though.. you said 'it's just what happens' as if to excuse it and make it okay.

Not until you brought it up though...which is why I don't really understand where you are going with your points that are in reply to my quotes.

It's a fact that some old people do become rude and grumpy.

[Gusto Brunt]

I thought he was about 63.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

Not until you brought it up though...which is why I don't really understand where you are going with your points that are in reply to my quotes.

It's a fact that some old people do become rude and grumpy.

It might be a fact, but it doesn't make it okay, which a lot of people seem to disagree with.
I'm just saying, people who say that people dislike Gary because of his disabilities are ridiculous, i'm not saying you're one of those people, but i was just using your post as an example.
We're never going to see eye to eye about Gary, but it's getting increasingly annoying to see people try to excuse his behaviour with his disabilities.. again, not pointed at you

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

It might be a fact, but it doesn't make it okay, which a lot of people seem to disagree with.
I'm just saying, people who say that people dislike Gary because of his disabilities are ridiculous, i'm not saying you're one of those people, but i was just using your post as an example.
We're never going to see eye to eye about Gary, but it's getting increasingly annoying to see people try to excuse his behaviour with his disabilities.. again, not pointed at you

Umm people have actually posted on this forum they are sick hearing about Gary's hearing problems, and also go on to say he doesn't do any cooking/cleaning and he got excused from sleeping outside so he shouldn't be in the house, which is total discrimination btw, that was the point of my post above, nothing at all to do with rudeness.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

Umm people have actually posted on this forum they are sick hearing about Gary's hearing problems, and also go on to say he doesn't do any cooking/cleaning and he got excused from sleeping outside so he shouldn't be in the house, which is total discrimination btw, that was the point of my post above, nothing at all to do with rudeness.

I fail to see how that is discrimination.. People also say that they're sick of hearing about Kellie's transition, that isn't discriminatory and she can't help that. the same as Gary can't help his deafness, so if people are using Gary's deafness as an excuse for his behaviour as people are using Kellie's transition as an excuse for hers, then i don't see why people aren't entitled to say that they're fed up of hearing about it without being labeled as discriminatory
But i do agree with you about the sleeping outside bit, it was right that he was taken out of that.. but, i doubt his hearing issues or his brain injuries would stop him from being able to wash a few dishes here and there.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

I fail to see how that is discrimination.. People also say that they're sick of hearing about Kellie's transition, that isn't discriminatory and she can't help that. the same as Gary can't help his deafness, so if people are using Gary's deafness as an excuse for his behaviour as people are using Kellie's transition as an excuse for hers, then i don't see why people aren't entitled to say that they're fed up of hearing about it without being labeled as discriminatory
But i do agree with you about the sleeping outside bit, it was right that he was taken out of that.. but, i doubt his hearing issues or his brain injuries would stop him from being able to wash a few dishes here and there.

Its discrimination saying someone with a disability shouldn't be in the house.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Josy

It's a fact that some old people do become rude and grumpy.

And it's also a fact that some people of any age (including 18) can be rude and grumpy, a reason why Ashleigh was constantly criticised on this forum because 'that's not how an 18 year old should be acting, they should be happy and enjoying life!!!!!!!'. But it's fine for Gary to be because he's 70? I like Gary, he's probably my favourite housemate, I was just agreeing with the OP that he made a good point and that when you think back to the summer and how many people were fed up with Ashleigh's age being brought up it's just the same thing now with Gary.

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't know why people get so annoyed when a HMs age is brought into an argument, it's silly to think that it's not relevant sometimes especially with particularly old/young HMs

I actually agree with this though in most cases. Just pointing out the double standards of saying it's okay for someone older but not someone younger