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Not really. My opinion is my own so butt out.
I'm entitled to have an opinion about your opinion. The Doctor is not restricted to being a man so the "legacy" being ruined is a silly remark. Whittaker will do a fantastic job.

Were you like this with The Master becoming Missy? Missy turned out to be one of my favourite characters throughout Capaldi's run, and I have no doubt that Whittaker will make a fantastic Doctor.
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I'm entitled to have an opinion about your opinion. The Doctor is not restricted to being a man so the "legacy" being ruined is a silly remark. Whittaker will do a fantastic job.

Were you like this with The Master becoming Missy? Missy turned out to be one of my favourite characters throughout Capaldi's run, and I have no doubt that Whittaker will make a fantastic Doctor.
Missy was great but the fact they rammed the whole "time lords can be females" thing down our throats with that and then the General in Hell Bent. They shouldn't need to change it to a female because people who have watched the show for longer than the revival will know it was a male and should always be a male. There's no need to make it a female. PC has gone mad nowadays.
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Missy was great but the fact they rammed the whole "time lords can be females" thing down our throats with that and then the General in Hell Bent. They shouldn't need to change it to a female because people who have watched the show for longer than the revival will know it was a male and should always be a male. There's no need to make it a female. PC has gone mad nowadays.
Please don't assume you speak on behalf of everyone who's watched it since before 2005. I watched the reveal with some members of my family- from 17 to 70 years old- and nobody seemed to mind the casting.

For what it's worth, I am absolutely delighted with the decision. It's really exciting and will really make the show seem fresh. Jodie Whittiker is a phenomonal actress and here's hoping she makes a great thirteenth Doctor.
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Please don't assume you speak on behalf of everyone who's watched it since before 2005. I watched the reveal with some members of my family- from 17 to 70 years old- and nobody seemed to mind the casting.

For what it's worth, I am absolutely delighted with the decision. It's really exciting and will really make the show seem fresh. Jodie Whittiker is a phenomonal actress and here's hoping she makes a great thirteenth Doctor.
I don't speak on behalf of everyone. I speak on behalf of the people that don't believe casting a female actress to play a male role is right. Seems everything is becoming female, I mean just look at the female ghostbusters movie. What a flop that was but if it was the other way around, nobody wants a male version of everything. All this feminism stuff is getting a bit ridiculous now.
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I don't speak on behalf of everyone. I speak on behalf of the people that don't believe casting a female actress to play a male role is right. Seems everything is becoming female, I mean just look at the female ghostbusters movie. What a flop that was but if it was the other way around, nobody wants a male version of everything. All this feminism stuff is getting a bit ridiculous now.
That's the thing, it's not a male role. The role was never specifically a male role. It's nothing to do with feminism? It's showing diversity in the world of Doctor Who and is something that will breath fresh air into the show.
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I don't speak on behalf of everyone. I speak on behalf of the people that don't believe casting a female actress to play a male role is right. Seems everything is becoming female, I mean just look at the female ghostbusters movie. What a flop that was but if it was the other way around, nobody wants a male version of everything. All this feminism stuff is getting a bit ridiculous now.
Ok but you literally said "people who have watched the show for longer than the revival will know it was a male and should always be a male", which kinda suggests you know what they all think and that those of us who like the idea are only fans of the revived series. I've been a fan of the show for as long as I can remember and have watched most of the existing classic episodes.

As for the Ghostbuster analogy, it's not really relevant, is it? I thought the movie was pretty crap. But it's quality was down to the poor writing. Just like if Jodie Whittiker is not sucessful, it will be down to poor stories or acting ability, not the fact that she's a woman. In addition, there have been sucessful recastings of male parts: Judi Dench as M in James Bond, for example.
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Ok but you literally said "people who have watched the show for longer than the revival will know it was a male and should always be a male", which kinda suggests you know what they all think and that those of us who like the idea are only fans of the revived series. I've been a fan of the show for as long as I can remember and have watched most of the existing classic episodes.

As for the Ghostbuster analogy, it's not really relevant, is it? I thought the movie was pretty crap. But it's quality was down to the poor writing. Just like if Jodie Whittiker is not sucessful, it will be down to poor stories or acting ability, not the fact that she's a woman. In addition, there have been sucessful recastings of male parts: Judi Dench as M in James Bond, for example.
I'm only quoting what people have said to me. The whole ghostbuster analogy is just to show that people continuously insist there should be a female version of this and that but you never see anyone suggest a male version of something. I will give her a chance but I just don't like the fact the whole 'time lords can be female' thing has been rammed down our throats too many times now. I do agree with Judi Dench being successful but I do agree with what you are saying so let's leave it be.
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It's a massive change for anyone who's been a fan of the show for quite some time so the backlash is understandable. The backlash would've been even bigger had we not already seen Missy. HOWEVER, I do think people should reserve their judgements until we've actually seen Jodie Whittaker in the role. Like I said, it's a massive change, but let's wait before we blame it on feminisation.
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It's a massive change for anyone who's been a fan of the show for quite some time so the backlash is understandable. The backlash would've been even bigger had we not already seen Missy. HOWEVER, I do think people should reserve their judgements until we've actually seen Jodie Whittaker in the role. Like I said, it's a massive change, but let's wait before we blame it on feminisation.
I'll agree with you on that one.
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Oh ok, how about capaldi regenerates into 13 and then she regenerates into a male for number 14 so everyone forgets Jodie Whittaker ever existed?
Imagine being this shook over a woman being cast as an alien that regenerates into different people every time they die.
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They'll probably throw in a male companion anyway for common ground.
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That would be fair though tbh
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The only thing one understand people being annoyed about is that it took this long for a woman to be cast
The number should be somewhere near even but we've only had 1 woman and 12 guys

I also don't like the whole "WHAT NEXT JANE BOND" like maybe who cares
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They'll probably throw in a male companion anyway for common ground.
I reckon we'll get multiple companions again, Pearl Mackie never got a goodbye video like Michelle Gomez and Matt Lucas did so I think they're planning to bring her back but I think she'll likely play second fiddle to whoever will be the new companion.

I do agree that the main companion is likely going to be male though, Regardless of who's playing what role, they'll want a main male and female.
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I reckon we'll get multiple companions again, Pearl Mackie never got a goodbye video like Michelle Gomez and Matt Lucas did so I think they're planning to bring her back but I think she'll likely play second fiddle to whoever will be the new companion.

I do agree that the main companion is likely going to be male though, Regardless of who's playing what role, they'll want a main male and female.
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Before I watched big brother, doctor who was my thing and my favourite show and I admired and loved it for so long until they ruin the 54 year legacy. Bring Moffat back and keep Peter Capaldi!
Because it having a 54 year legacy obviously hinges on the lead having a dick.

And tbh I'd even hazard a guess that a large portion of its popularity since it came back in 2005 is because of the popularity of the companions. Billie Piper, Catherine Tate, Karen Gillan all just as much as popular and played a part in the quality of the show as much as Smith, Tennant or Capaldi.
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Missy was great but the fact they rammed the whole "time lords can be females" thing down our throats with that and then the General in Hell Bent. They shouldn't need to change it to a female because people who have watched the show for longer than the revival will know it was a male and should always be a male. There's no need to make it a female. PC has gone mad nowadays.
There's no need for the Doctor to change at all. They could just make each actor a different Time Lord. But that's the show so get over it.

The show has changed pretty much every part of itself many times to survive over 54 years and this is a change it has not experimented with thus far and if the show is in desperate need of anything it's a major overhaul.

And if done right, this could turn the shows fortunes around.

Trying to replicate a past era would not have worked.
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I'd love for Captain Jack to return lol
Jack to show up and have sex with the new Doctor, because they established him as an equal opportunities lothario and then made him full gay.

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I love that people can accept Capaldi slowly tunnelling through like 20 feet of solid diamond using only his fists, but The Doctor regenerating into a female is a stretch too far.
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