[Raphael]

"Gary, we love you"............."He's a vile human being"

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Because they're not carers? and they don't put people in there that need carers..

They put James in there and he needs a Mental Health Carer.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Patricia4

Nobody know's if this is true the vile gang had their head's together all the time talking about him I don't believe all the rubbish.I never saw any of them looking after Gary all they did was take the piss out of him one person that cared about him was Audley.

[Suze]

Gary won, James didn't, get over it James you overgrown baby. Someone needs to stick a dummy in James mouth. Although did love and will be one of my favourite bits of this CBB that James got to the final three, then was pipped at the post by not just Gary, but also Audley. Double blow

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

When did this poo on the hands incident happen?

It seems odd that it was never shown or mentioned in the programme, but the shower thing was.

Tbh the more I think about it the more I find the scenario hard to believe. The way they kicked off about every little thing there would have been pandemonian if even a snif of **** was whiffed. Also they would have been in the diary room bitching about it every opportunity and it would have been brought up in noms. They were hardly a group of people to hold back until they came out. Stephanie made it up and James has jumped on it to try to vindicate himself.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Tbh the more I think about it the more I find the scenario hard to believe. The way they kicked off about every little thing there would have been pandemonian if even a snif of **** was whiffed. Also they would have been in the diary room bitching about it every opportunity and it would have been brought up in noms. They were hardly a group of people to hold back until they came out. Stephanie made it up and James has jumped on it to try to vindicate himself.

I'm sure given the nature of the contracts that they all had, that any excessive issues related to hygiene would come under the health and safety at work act and various other safeguards that everyone is entitled too whether they are in the BB house or not. Clearly, nothing has been breached there as you can guarantee they would have jumped on it to remove Gary from the house

As so many have alluded to already, there is nothing new in any of these areas, the issues have recurred over and over in previous big brothers without it raising more than the odd snigger here and there. They all realised that Gary had the beating of them, and when they couldn't compete "fairly" they chose to gang up on him, and use every underhand tactic at their disposal. The fact that Dee stated on bots that they all treated Gary horribly, is all the evidence required. If they had been justified in their actions, it wouldn't by definition, have been horrible.

[Ruffle]

James was asked the questions he answered them
the truth is I feel that his fans don't want the truth It's ok to accept the truth and still like Gary
there is not an issue with health issues when the other hm,s cleaned it up it would only become a problem it it had been left
I totally believe what the other hm,s are saying and I believe that it was James and dee that were seeing to all his needs not that thy will be apreasiated for it thy did not sigh up to be careers but tried all the same

[calyman]

Originally Posted by Ruffle

James was asked the questions he answered them
the truth is I feel that his fans don't want the truth It's ok to accept the truth and still like Gary
there is not an issue with health issues when the other hm,s cleaned it up it would only become a problem it it had been left
I totally believe what the other hm,s are saying and I believe that it was James and dee that were seeing to all his needs not that thy will be apreasiated for it thy did not sigh up to be careers but tried all the same

I don't believe James' or Dee's or any of the gang of 6's lies.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Ruffle

James was asked the questions he answered them
the truth is I feel that his fans don't want the truth It's ok to accept the truth and still like Gary
there is not an issue with health issues when the other hm,s cleaned it up it would only become a problem it it had been left
I totally believe what the other hm,s are saying and I believe that it was James and dee that were seeing to all his needs not that thy will be apreasiated for it thy did not sigh up to be careers but tried all the same

Anything those vile bastards did by way of kind or charitable acts - to any other house-mates, not just Gary - was as fake as a 90p banknote. The irrefutable proof of their vileness is threefold; their actual behaviour whilst in the house, their actual conduct during the post finale interviews, and their continued spewing of bile against Gary now, in newspapers and on line.

Please consider this; even if Gary did have some hygiene issues, even if there was an incident when he had traces of poo on his hand (and I strongly doubt it because the only testimony that he did have comes solely from his accusers with no independent corroboration) then any genuine person who recognised his problems would merely take him to one side and - away from the cameras - gently advise him. Similarly, any decent person genuinely electing to help Gary, would do so without broadcasting his problems and without heralding to the world the fact that they were helping him. Even if Gary was ungrateful or rude by return (and again, I strongly doubt it because the only testimony that he was comes solely from his accusers with no independent corroboration) then any decent genuine person would make allowances for his eccentricity, his age, and his disabilities, and preserve an old man's dignity by being discreet about his hygiene problems.

Would we have had any idea that Gary pissed on the floor? Had poo on his hands, and had other hygiene issues if it had not been broadcast to the world by these insensitive hypocrites? No, we wouldn't, because we did not ever see it. I for one, do not believe it, and I prefer to rely on my eyes, ears, and logical deduction to interpret what I have witnessed rather than the lies of vile bastards who are willing to unjustly discredit an innocent man and rob him of his dignity merely because they are trying to justify their vile bullying behaviour.

The anti-Gary lobby, and pro-James/Dee lobby can maintain what they want.

[Mick]

RE The above post completely agree.Just look at James face when Gary lowered his trousers in the kitchen that says it all.No compassion just glorying in another's misfortune.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Ruffle

James was asked the questions he answered them
the truth is I feel that his fans don't want the truth It's ok to accept the truth and still like Gary
there is not an issue with health issues when the other hm,s cleaned it up it would only become a problem it it had been left
I totally believe what the other hm,s are saying and I believe that it was James and dee that were seeing to all his needs not that thy will be apreasiated for it thy did not sigh up to be careers but tried all the same

We accept that things can happen because we are human ourselves but Dee never helped Gary one bit, James only bothered after he was asked by BB but he tried to bring Gary down to a level of dog poo. He then proceeded to go out and stir the pot. They are both undesirable bad losers, I doubt whether anyone is denying that accidents happened but as Audey said Gary was asked and Gary repaired and became better. I believe Audley 100%, I also believe that Dee took the younger element under her wings and stirred for Gary as said by Audley.

There was an incident whereby Gary was criticised because he picked at the chicken, did we all see Edelle and Audley picking away for all their worth, they were enjoying it. Audley spooned the insides out spoon after spoon and then he was going to make chicken soup. I love Audley but my point is, why was Gary criticised.

Still the terrible lot continue.......the game is over you lot and you all lost!

The only one who helped Gary was Audley and as Gary said he is the only one he will keep in touch with. I am so glad that he has now seen through the rest of them.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Hate to say it but I agree with him.

12 other people cant be wrong, are we all really that gullable and believing the edit over the actual people who have lived with him?

Don't get me wrong I loved Gary as a housemate but these people had to live with him and from what 99% of them are saying its clear we were only shown one side of Garys character.

We were shown all of Gary's character watch all the videos he has made in chat shows, other reality shows. They are hilarious.

We saw him naked in the shower, BOTS thought that was also hilarious, we saw him take his trousers down in the kitchen and adjust his knee thing. We also saw George take his pants down and James flick him with a tea towel. We know that Lauren peed in the pool, we know that George drank the water. We heard Gary say "what" numerous times, his hearing was a bit of a bind for him.

Watch the cartoon video again with Meatloaf, that is hilarious but it is him. That lot made the mistake of treating him like a lesser being, possibly because they were in awe of him, afraid of him who knows, possibly they realised he could win and did all they could to turn the tables on him. They knew he was a legend. Sadly no matter what they came off worse in a lot of peoples eyes and this is what this series will be remembered for. It was a game and they all tried to win in their own way.

Dee had the nerve to say on BOTS that they began to be nice to him because they thought we would vote him out. Edelle said he was easy pickings, we could go on and on and on. Edelle also asked Audley why didnt he nominate Gary instead of her. Audley and Frenchy were the only true ones who didnt belong in the sheep pen they had minds of their own.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Jules2

We were shown all of Gary's character watch all the videos he has made in chat shows, other reality shows. They are hilarious.

We saw him naked in the shower, BOTS thought that was also hilarious, we saw him take his trousers down in the kitchen and adjust his knee thing. We also saw George take his pants down and James flick him with a tea towel. We know that Lauren peed in the pool, we know that George drank the water. We heard Gary say "what" numerous times, his hearing was a bit of a bind for him.

Watch the cartoon video again with Meatloaf, that is hilarious but it is him. That lot made the mistake of treating him like a lesser being, possibly because they were in awe of him, afraid of him who knows, possibly they realised he could win and did all they could to turn the tables on him. They knew he was a legend. Sadly no matter what they came off worse in a lot of peoples eyes and this is what this series will be remembered for. It was a game and they all tried to win in their own way.

Dee had the nerve to say on BOTS that they began to be nice to him because they thought we would vote him out. Edelle said he was easy pickings, we could go on and on and on. Edelle also asked Audley why didnt he nominate Gary instead of her. Audley and Frenchy were the only true ones who didnt belong in the sheep pen they had minds of their own.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Mick

RE The above post completely agree.Just look at James face when Gary lowered his trousers in the kitchen that says it all.No compassion just glorying in another's misfortune.

Our glory was watching the final three left in the house with James on one chair and Gary and Audley on the other.... The sick look on James's face was classic...he knew he was going to lose to the pair of them and the humiliation was inevitable.
What's more he had no one to turn to...only them.

[Mick]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Our glory was watching the final three left in the house with James on one chair and Gary and Audley on the other.... The sick look on James's face was classic...he knew he was going to lose to the pair of them and the humiliation was inevitable.
What's more he had no one to turn to...only them.

Indeed I was surprised that he did not complain to Emma that he was bullied.(again)

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Our glory was watching the final three left in the house with James on one chair and Gary and Audley on the other.... The sick look on James's face was classic...he knew he was going to lose to the pair of them and the humiliation was inevitable.
What's more he had no one to turn to...only them.

Even better was his exit - offering out his hand in a deflated formal way to Gary and saying 'take care mate'.

It was like a dejected David Brent trying to save face and meekly hide his dented pride. Hilarious.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Our glory was watching the final three left in the house with James on one chair and Gary and Audley on the other.... The sick look on James's face was classic...he knew he was going to lose to the pair of them and the humiliation was inevitable.
What's more he had no one to turn to...only them.

Exactly!! All too briefly, the egotistical bully was outnumbered and alone, and his demeanour said it all.

[Angelika]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

He has a point though, he wasn't in there to look after Gary, nor should he have been expected to, none of them should of had to deal with that.

Gary didn't need looking after - that's James .......a sore loser and full of bile and hatred because he got the public opinion wrong.

James didn't have to do a thing for Gary - he did so fo air time for himself! To portray himself as a doo- goody two shoes but we the public saw through that ruse!

James, stop griping! Get a grip, get a life - CBB is over now and YOU didn't win! so glad too!

[Angelika]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Anything those vile bastards did by way of kind or charitable acts - to any other house-mates, not just Gary - was as fake as a 90p banknote. The irrefutable proof of their vileness is threefold; their actual behaviour whilst in the house, their actual conduct during the post finale interviews, and their continued spewing of bile against Gary now, in newspapers and on line.

Please consider this; even if Gary did have some hygiene issues, even if there was an incident when he had traces of poo on his hand (and I strongly doubt it because the only testimony that he did have comes solely from his accusers with no independent corroboration) then any genuine person who recognised his problems would merely take him to one side and - away from the cameras - gently advise him. Similarly, any decent person genuinely electing to help Gary, would do so without broadcasting his problems and without heralding to the world the fact that they were helping him. Even if Gary was ungrateful or rude by return (and again, I strongly doubt it because the only testimony that he was comes solely from his accusers with no independent corroboration) then any decent genuine person would make allowances for his eccentricity, his age, and his disabilities, and preserve an old man's dignity by being discreet about his hygiene problems.

Would we have had any idea that Gary pissed on the floor? Had poo on his hands, and had other hygiene issues if it had not been broadcast to the world by these insensitive hypocrites? No, we wouldn't, because we did not ever see it. I for one, do not believe it, and I prefer to rely on my eyes, ears, and logical deduction to interpret what I have witnessed rather than the lies of vile bastards who are willing to unjustly discredit an innocent man and rob him of his dignity merely because they are trying to justify their vile bullying behaviour.

The anti-Gary lobby, and pro-James/Dee lobby can maintain what they want.

Totally support every word you say, I feel the same about Gary's detractors!
Poo to them - poor losers! Ashamed that they can call themselves British!

[the truth]

can we end this thread and not give this boring one dimensional evil scumbag bully any more attention, hopefully he will crawl back from whence he came never to be heard from again

[Angelika]

Originally Posted by Suze

Gary won, James didn't, get over it James you overgrown baby. Someone needs to stick a dummy in James mouth. Although did love and will be one of my favourite bits of this CBB that James got to the final three, then was pipped at the post by not just Gary, but also Audley. Double blow

Its my favourite moment too! The look of disbelief on James's face was priceless - TV GOLD! His humiliation is now complete, most others would stay home and lick their wounds - not Genius James - he's out there making himself look a hundred times worse! What an idiot, he has no idea when to stop!

James for heavens sake consult one of the psyches!

[rionablue]

My view is that I don't think Gary was well enough to go through nearly 4 weeks in that house. Considering his complications after his crash, his injuries, his difficulty in hearing, and all the other things that he suffered from I think it was the WRONG move to go into Big Brother. Gary Busey is a Hollywood Legend. God knows he shouldn't have needed the money. Big Brother houses are always full of selfish people who belittle other people and argue and bitch and order people around. I said it in the first few days Gary shouldn't have agreed to do it.

Its hard enough on able bodied people trying to put up with the vileness of others. In fairness to Gary he took everything with a grain of salt. I liked him and it has proved a point that he WON. But a great percentage of the people who voted for him to win are people who couldn't stand James and Dee and most of the others and felt sorry for Gary with what he had to put up with. I feel that should he have gone into the house a fit and sprightly 70 year old the outcome may have been different.

Gary wasn't all sweetness and light he had another side to him also and was sly at times but as I said I liked him. However in my honest opinion he should NEVER HAVE signed up for it. If I was the biggest celeb in the world and had health issues and had seen what the housemates can be like I would rather sweep the streets than put myself in a position where I could be ridiculed, shouted at or preached to

[the truth]

Originally Posted by rionablue

My view is that I don't think Gary was well enough to go through nearly 4 weeks in that house. Considering his complications after his crash, his injuries, his difficulty in hearing, and all the other things that he suffered from I think it was the WRONG move to go into Big Brother. Gary Busey is a Hollywood Legend. God knows he shouldn't have needed the money. Big Brother houses are always full of selfish people who belittle other people and argue and bitch and order people around. I said it in the first few days Gary shouldn't have agreed to do it.

Its hard enough on able bodied people trying to put up with the vileness of others. In fairness to Gary he took everything with a grain of salt. I liked him and it has proved a point that he WON. But a great percentage of the people who voted for him to win are people who couldn't stand James and Dee and most of the others and felt sorry for Gary with what he had to put up with. I feel that should he have gone into the house a fit and sprightly 70 year old the outcome may have been different.



Gary wasn't all sweetness and light he had another side to him also and was sly at times but as I said I liked him. However in my honest opinion he should NEVER HAVE signed up for it. If I was the biggest celeb in the world and had health issues and had seen what the housemates can be like I would rather sweep the streets than put myself in a position where I could be ridiculed, shouted at or preached to

I disagree. gary had every right to be there. he was a fantastic sport and participated in most tasks, in some tasks very well. he totally took over the show. he was the nicets warmest , funniest most complex learned person by light years. absoluteyl fascinating. he lacked ego. he was there for the experience , to learn and grow and teach a lot of lessons along the way. i loved how he exposed each and every vile bully in there. it was masterclass. he was more genuine and humbled depsite his legendary status , far more humble than any of the do nothing talentless vile mob who bullied him. its ironic really, youd expect the poorer working class people to me more humble, that opposite was true

he was the best hm in bb history. totlaly exposing the hollow sham it has become and the bubble brain perma tanned petty vein talentless vile numpties that pass for celebrities in this not so great britain

[Mick]

RE The above post both members present an interesting perspective. How much knowledge did Gary have of what to expect and how deep did the researcher's/producer's delve into the possible consequences and out comes RE Garys disability's.?

Whatever, his participation enabled other HMs the opportunity to show a compassionate and caring side of their personality's under difficult circumstances. So as part of the social experiment it added an extra dimension.

Most failed and Gary won.When they watch the show hopefully some of them will understand why but sadly I suspect the majority will not.

[jasperinporto]

Originally Posted by Patricia4

Nobody know's if this is true the vile gang had their head's together all the time talking about him I don't believe all the rubbish.I never saw any of them looking after Gary all they did was take the piss out of him one person that cared about him was Audley.

It seems to me the vile bunch of nobodies are purposely trying to humiliate Gary by telling the viewers that he ****s on the seat and doesn't wash his hands after going to the toilet. Do we really want to know that? Nobody really gave a **** what they said about Gary anyway he was still way above them in the popularity stakes. Whatever they say about him it doesn't matter to the people who voted for him he is still a legend in my books and it will take a lot more than people wiping Gary's **** off the seat for him to go down in my estimation.

Apart from Audley they were all a pile of crap. Wish it was possible to just flush them away like a pile of **** down the toilet.