[arista]

First Title : Islam Terrorist Man - shot & killed In Canada after he murdered a Troop




A bit like our Lee Rigby case


http://news.sky.com/story/1357158/at...ks-terror-fear



Live On SkyNewsHD
not on BBC

[JoshBB]

"radical islam man" - is it really relevant to specify someone's religion in a news story? You wouldn't put "fundamentalist christian woman" or "jewish rabbi man"..

[arista]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

"radical islam man" - is it really relevant to specify someone's religion in a news story? You wouldn't put "fundamentalist christian woman" or "jewish rabbi man"..

Yes its ISIS related
for fecks sake


I have changed a word

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes its ISIS related
for fecks sake


I have added a word

So, he's now a terrorist because he killed a man? I bet you don't refer to someone like Oscar Pistorius as one.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

"radical islam man" - is it really relevant to specify someone's religion in a news story? You wouldn't put "fundamentalist christian woman" or "jewish rabbi man"..

Well in this case the fact that the attacker had apparently been radicalised is pretty relevant to the story

[arista]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

So, he's now a terrorist because he killed a man? I bet you don't refer to someone like Oscar Pistorius as one.

Like our Lee Rigby (London) was run over by a Car



Of course he is a Terrorist

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well in this case the fact that the attacker had apparently been radicalised is pretty relevant to the story

We don't know that he has been radicalised though, he may just be a muslim that also happens to have wanted to kill someone for whatever reason - the fact that he's a soldier may also be irrelevant. Everyone is jumping to conclusions.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

So, he's now a terrorist because he killed a man? I bet you don't refer to someone like Oscar Pistorius as one.

It's been reported as being a terror attack by a radicalised individual, ffs stop picking things apart.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

It's been reported as being a terror attack by a radicalised individual, ffs stop picking things apart.

Reported as such, however that does not mean that sky news has picked up on information that was not relevant to the story. I am not accusing anyone of islamophobia by the way!

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Reported as such, however that does not mean that sky news has picked up on information that was not relevant to the story. I am not accusing anyone of islamophobia by the way!

If it is a terror attack like it is being reported, how is his religion or that fact that he was radicalised 'irrelevant'? It's part of the story

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

If it is a terror attack like it is being reported, how is his religion or that fact that he was radicalised 'irrelevant'? It's part of the story

You're missing the point. The fact that he may have been radicalised does not mean that religion is his motive to kill.

[arista]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

You're missing the point. The fact that he may have been radicalised does not mean that religion is his motive to kill.

Motive : ISIS

[Marsh.]

So it's just a coincidence that he's an Islamic soldier?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

We don't know that he has been radicalised though, he may just be a muslim that also happens to have wanted to kill someone for whatever reason - the fact that he's a soldier may also be irrelevant. Everyone is jumping to conclusions.

From the link in the OP:

The suspected attacker, who officials said had become influenced by radical Islam, has been shot and killed.

The attack in Quebec was the first such incident in Canada since the country joined the fight against Islamic State militants.

Royal Canadian Mounted Police spokesman David Falls said the suspect "was known to Federal authorities" and "authorities were concerned that he had become radicalised".

An individual known to the authorities as possibly having been radicalised kills a soldier in the wake of Canada joining the fight against IS and those three factors might all be coincidence? Even on the very slim chance that they are putting forward what is by far the most likely explanation and motivation is what investigation is about, Sky news are only reporting the police's main line of enquiry atm

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

You're missing the point. The fact that he may have been radicalised does not mean that religion is his motive to kill.

So you're just splitting hairs for the sake of saving face? If that's what the Canadian police are reporting has happened, for the reasons it happened, then i don't see how it's supposed to be reported any differently.

[arista]

Yes Canada has Troops fighting in Iraq
so in Canada they have to watch out for this.

Just like we lost our Troop (Lee Rigby) in London
when he was Run over

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by MTVN

From the link in the OP:



An individual known to the authorities as possibly having been radicalised kills a soldier in the wake of Canada joining the fight against IS and those three factors might all be coincidence? Even on the very slim chance that they are putting forward what is by far the most likely explanation and motivation is what investigation is about, Sky news are only reporting the police's main line of enquiry atm

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

So you're just splitting hairs for the sake of saving face? If that's what the Canadian police are reporting has happened, for the reasons it happened, then i don't see how it's supposed to be reported any differently.

I must have overlooked those parts, my mistake. With those excluded, it did seem like another one of those anti-muslim threads.

[GiRTh]

All the links to radical Islam are carefully worded to make sure the inference is there but no conclusive. Its not good enough to say 'Authorities believes he may have been radicalized' . Particularly when its a Christian who commits such a crime the media tries its hardest to not state any religious following. There is nothing conclusive in the article stating he was a known terrorists and the final sentence states they have found 'no ties to 'Islamic militant groups . Its just a lot of supposition. Also the comparisons to Lee Rigby are down right misleading and take up the too much of the article in comparison to the proof - or lack of it - that the suspect was tied to Islamic militant groups.

Nice 'journalism' from Sky as usual.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

"radical islam man" - is it really relevant to specify someone's religion in a news story? You wouldn't put "fundamentalist christian woman" or "jewish rabbi man"..

jesus. ****ing. christ.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

jesus. ****ing. christ.

I don't often do this, but... [2]

[Marsh.]

[3]

[Northern Monkey]

"A "radicalised" man who ran over two Canadian soldiers was one of 90 suspected militants being tracked by police, officials said."


Nuff said here for me.Pretty sure he's a terrorist.He was a "suspected militant" and he ran over two soldiers,Unless it was an accident it would be pretty hard to believe this was not an act of terrorism.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

"radical islam man" - is it really relevant to specify someone's religion in a news story? You wouldn't put "fundamentalist christian woman" or "jewish rabbi man"..

wtf are you talking about? of course it's relevant. If this was a radical christian killing abortion clinic doctors we'd be saying the same thing about the role religion played in the attack. You must be a Guardian reader.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

"A "radicalised" man who ran over two Canadian soldiers was one of 90 suspected militants being tracked by police, officials said."


Nuff said here for me.Pretty sure he's a terrorist.He was a "suspected militant" and he ran over two soldiers,Unless it was an accident it would be pretty hard to believe this was not an act of terrorism.

plus he's Canadian, you know how those Canadians are...

[arista]

Terrorist Shooter or Shooters at the Parliament
in Ottawa . He is on the Run
the Police are trying to catch him.

The PM was kept safe

http://news.sky.com/story/1358205/re...a-war-memorial


He arrived in a Car with No plates on




Live on all TV News