[arista]

Link For Kizzy
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014...tml?1415572865


[Is there no one left in Britain
who can make a sandwich? Firm that
supplies M&S and Tesco is forced to
recruit 300 staff in
Hungary
Greencore Group's new £35
million factory is due to open in 2016
Advertising for machine setters,
cleaners, porters and quality monitors
But company says majority
of 300 new staff will be recruited from Hungary
Blamed few local applications
on 'very low unemployment' in Northampton]







Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3IdFhgcZ8




[Greencore's Food to Go business is one of the world's
leading manufacturers of pre-packed sandwiches]






Its Good they are making sure their Jobs
are going to filled by workers


Sign Of The Times

[Creggle]

Did you take the photo in the OP?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Creggle

Did you take the photo in the OP?

No its from
Huff. Post

[Kizzy]

Forced to?... yeah right, if you are recruited in another country are you paid there or here? There must be some scam for employers, something to do with minimum wage or tax breaks for employing outside the UK...

[Toy Soldier]

I don't want Hungary people making my sandwiches... They'll probably take a bite!

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Forced to?... yeah right, if you are recruited in another country are you paid there or here? There must be some scam for employers, something to do with minimum wage or tax breaks for employing outside the UK...

Someone cynical might wonder if this is the case - what immediately jumps out at me is that they would avoid Employer's National Insurance (company adds to your NI contributions on top of what comes soft of your own wage) and, also, automatic pension enrollment came in this year (money comes out of pay unless you opt out and the employer has to contribute extra on top of that). Have to question whether or not that would apply to a workforce from outside the UK...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I don't want Hungary people making my sandwiches... They'll probably take a bite!



Someone cynical might wonder if this is the case - what immediately jumps out at me is that they would avoid Employer's National Insurance (company adds to your NI contributions on top of what comes soft of your own wage) and, also, automatic pension enrollment came in this year (money comes out of pay unless you opt out and the employer has to contribute extra on top of that). Have to question whether or not that would apply to a workforce from outside the UK...

You can see in the Photos Greencore
have given the press
all the Employees are good.


All EU workers brought have to be legal
so the agency in Hungary
makes sure of that.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by arista

You can see in the Photos Greencore
have given the press
all the Employees are good.


All EU workers brought have to be legal
so the agency in Hungary
makes sure of that.

Yes but legal loopholes are called "loopholes" for a reason - they're not illegal.

If the workers are still classed as resident in their home country then (I would assume) their pension is still tied to that country, as will any equivalent of National Insurance be (if there is one)... so, then, whilst the workers will still be contributing Income Tax to the UK pot, the company itself won't have to shell out for the new pension scheme or Employer's N.I. contributions, which, with 300+ workers, would save the company several thousand pounds every month.

This is largely guesswork of course - I don't actually know how N.I. contributions work for EU migrants. I know that if I was a temporary migrant who would be moving home eventually, I wouldn't be happy about paying N.I. contributions...

Quick google:

Do I have to pay NIC (National Insurance contributions) in the UK?

If you come to the UK from another EU country or from Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein or Switzerland, you may not have to pay NIC but, instead, could continue to pay social security in the country where you were formerly employed.

Tadaaa... may be the case that these workers are not going to be paying UK National Insurance but instead paying social security in Hungary. In the UK, if you are paying N.I., your employer adds to that out of their own pocket. They will not have to do so if their workers are not paying N.I. Completely "legal".


http://www.litrg.org.uk/tax-guides/m...or-switzerland

[LeatherTrumpet]

this really takes the biscuit

[Niamh.]

The tweets are hilarious

I hate pre made sandwiches, I like to make my own sandwich or atleast have it made while I wait in a the shop

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The tweets are hilarious

I hate pre made sandwiches, I like to make my own sandwich or atleast have it made while I wait in a the shop

But you must understand
in the City Of London
Bankers need Top food
some of these Factory Made Sandwiches
are £4.


London has loads of just M&S Foods stores
selling millions of them

[LeatherTrumpet]

yes neem

not everyone can afford gourmet hand made sandwiches with caviar as you probably have

[Niamh.]

I don't even like cavier

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I don't want Hungary people making my sandwiches... They'll probably take a bite!

Hey T.S - No more puns, stick to the heavy 'intelligent' stuff, leave the comedy to Marsh. LT, and me.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Forced to?... yeah right, if you are recruited in another country are you paid there or here? There must be some scam for employers, something to do with minimum wage or tax breaks for employing outside the UK...

Bang on. This "can't find workers in the UK" crap is propaganda.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Hey T.S - No more puns, stick to the heavy 'intelligent' stuff, leave the comedy to Marsh. LT, and me.

[arista]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Bang on. This "can't find workers in the UK" crap is propaganda.

No they claim they can not find them Local to the Factory.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by arista

No they claim they can not find them Local to the Factory.

They can't find them 'local to the factory' so instead of advertising in the nearest big city,They advertise in Hungary??

[JoshBB]

lol. it makes me laugh because people always claim "oh we cant get jobs the immigrants are getting them all"

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

They can't find them 'local to the factory' so instead of advertising in the nearest big city,They advertise in Hungary??

[arista]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

They can't find them 'local to the factory' so instead of advertising in the nearest big city,They advertise in Hungary??

Well its a Big Deal
new factory
they can not mess about with locals
who can not get out of bed.

Sign Of The Times

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by arista

Well its a Big Deal
new factory
they can not mess about with locals
who can not get out of bed.

Sign Of The Times

But do we only have the company's word for this Arista? Or is there corroboration from the local jobcentre etc?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Hey T.S - No more puns, stick to the heavy 'intelligent' stuff, leave the comedy to Marsh. LT, and me.

Or failing that someone funny

[arista]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

But do we only have the company's word for this Arista? Or is there corroboration from the local jobcentre etc?

No Press Reports

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Or failing that someone funny

Ouch!!

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

lol. it makes me laugh because people always claim "oh we cant get jobs the immigrants are getting them all"

Yes, and this in a way proves there is more than a grain of truth in that now I suppose but it isn't their fault is it?
The employers recruiting outside the UK are adding to social tension with these tactics.