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Old 18-01-2015, 09:59 AM #1
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Default Apathy of Young Voters - we need Red button on your remote voting

Like push red now
if you want
Greens
Conservative
LibDem
UKIP
or
Labour


Everyone is on ITV1HD & ITV1 24hours click yellow button to enter the Voting room - to start

they are shown the lists of each party
then they go through each one slow
with sign saying Press red now

Then it Says thank you for your Vote
householder No.5 Berkshire Drive

There is no charge to Vote



have you got a better way to get the young to Vote?

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Ignore Him
he is Negative saying do not vote

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nope, would be too easy to manipulate.
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nope, would be too easy to manipulate.


We could do test runs
to ensure it works OK
Modify any problems

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I cannot see that coming about arista.

I agree something needs to be done as to getting all people voting, not just the young,what the answer is I don't know.

Polling stations often are in places out of the way, if people in a constituency had voting booths set up at their local supermarkets, maybe more would vote then.

In 2010, I came across people shopping, who said they weren't going to vote because the polling stations was down at some bowling green and they couldn't be bothered.
Had they been able to vote in the supermarket, they likely would have done.

I am not sure where I think voting should go, however I agree with Kizzy, the way set out in the op is likely open to abuse and manipulation.
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"I cannot see that coming about arista."


Sure but things change Fast
old folks catch up

And for any that need help
they will get it.


Polling Stations are not used enough
To many Do Not Vote


Not a problem as Tests would be done in Major places


like these TV Debates Ofcom
was using old data


Fecking Made a Error
And now the Greens will be on ITV
its being set up as we speak
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Voter apathy in the young is not at all because they are lazy or out of touch and it doesn't say anything about young people. It says it all about Westminster politics. Young people don't bother to go out and vote because they don't feel like their vote means anything or that it will change anything. Labour tories labour tories flip flop flip flop nothing ever really changes. They're not wrong.

Give them a voice, make them feel like their vote actually matters - that what they are voting for has any sort of real impact - and it stop being a problem.

To illustrate: young voters turned up in droves to vote in the independence referendum and we're hugely engaged by the campaign on both sides. It felt important, it felt meaningful, the result had the potential to change politics in the country forever.

UK General election politics are a complete "meh". The question being asked is "which stuffy Eton prick would you like to run the country into the mud and not give a **** about you?". I completely understand people choosing to stay in bed and watch re-runs of Friends.
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Voter apathy in the young is not at all because they are lazy or out of touch and it doesn't say anything about young people. It says it all about Westminster politics. Young people don't bother to go out and vote because they don't feel like their vote means anything or that it will change anything. Labour tories labour tories flip flop flip flop nothing ever really changes. They're not wrong.

Give them a voice, make them feel like their vote actually matters - that what they are voting for has any sort of real impact - and it stop being a problem.

To illustrate: young voters turned up in droves to vote in the independence referendum and we're hugely engaged by the campaign on both sides. It felt important, it felt meaningful, the result had the potential to change politics in the country forever.

UK General election politics are a complete "meh". The question being asked is "which stuffy Eton prick would you like to run the country into the mud and not give a **** about you?". I completely understand people choosing to stay in bed and watch re-runs of Friends.
If that sentence was changed to start: which snot-nosed comprehensive school prick would you like... then I'm guessing people would be outraged.

Everyone who votes was young once. I've voted since I was eligible because it is a privilege not afforded to everyone in the world and yet it's taken with such apathy in this country.
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mobile voting would be better, like by text
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mobile voting would be better, like by text
No good for the old
not everyone has a mobile
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Online voting would be a better system. I think most young people just dread having to go to a polling station and probably feel it's a time consuming job. Having an option to vote online would be a good step forwards to encourage more people to get involved.

Obviously keep polling stations and postal voting like we have now. Just add online voting as an additional way for the younger generations.

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If that sentence was changed to start: which snot-nosed comprehensive school prick would you like... then I'm guessing people would be outraged.

Everyone who votes was young once. I've voted since I was eligible because it is a privilege not afforded to everyone in the world and yet it's taken with such apathy in this country.
I vote too, I'm not saying people shouldn't, I'm just saying that it is a demonstrable fact that young people WILL go out and vote if the politics is vibrant and inspiring. It happened 6 months ago. The reason for young people not voting isn't because they can't do it on their iPhone. Westminster politics is stale and voter turnout across the board - not just young people - is abysmal as a result. People don't feel engaged, they don't feel like their vote matters, because Westminster feels like an "ivory tower" with the shutters firmly closed to outside influence of any kind.
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Online voting would be a better system. I think most young people just dread having to go to a polling station and probably feel it's a time consuming job. Having an option to vote online would be a good step forwards to encourage more people to get involved.

Obviously keep polling stations and postal voting like we have now. Just add online voting as an additional way for the younger generations.
I think if anything has been shown lately, it's that things like elections are not ready to go digital. Security simply isn't tight enough to stop hacker groups from covertly fiddling results or, at the very least, simply crippling the system so that the vote has to be scrapped.
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I don't think voting methods are the reason for low turnouts or the answer to it either. I think it's more to do with the quality of the candidates and the parties, it's difficult to care about any of them because they're all so subpar.

I personally couldn't care less who wins the elections as long as it's not UKIP or Conservatives, I just can't drum up the energy to care beyond that.
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Tbh if you think the short walk to the polling station is too much of an obstacle to voting then you're probably not serious or bothered enough about your vote and might as well not cast one
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I vote too, I'm not saying people shouldn't, I'm just saying that it is a demonstrable fact that young people WILL go out and vote if the politics is vibrant and inspiring. It happened 6 months ago. The reason for young people not voting isn't because they can't do it on their iPhone. Westminster politics is stale and voter turnout across the board - not just young people - is abysmal as a result. People don't feel engaged, they don't feel like their vote matters, because Westminster feels like an "ivory tower" with the shutters firmly closed to outside influence of any kind.
Surely then kids should be introduced to politics properly in schools. Westminster, far from being an ivory tower, is open to the public. You can approach your MP for a visit, and even sit in on Prime Ministers Questions if you're lucky. There are always schools and groups of visitors trooping round the Commons.

I don't understand why, because voting is low with the young, that we have to brighten it up to encourage them to vote. I'm sure in the future texting and all kinds of methods will be brought in the way postal votes were, and now in my constituency something like 25% of votes cast are postal votes. As someone well versed in election law I've got to say, it would be a nearly impossible job to make sure there was no tampering or other monkey business because you can lock and seal a ballot box, you can you can't do that with a text.

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How many times in the past have we seen people like him , rich famous relatively Young , diving into politics finding a cause.


It's like a new Project to him, a new flag to fly , a new bell to ring.

Something to do until the next new hallucinogenic drug comes along....





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I'm lucky as my polling station is only a 15 minute walk.However I think this would be a good idea IF it could be protected from hackers but i fear internet security is not that good yet and may never be.Hackers always find a way.
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I'm lucky as my polling station is only a 15 minute walk.However I think this would be a good idea IF it could be protected from hackers but i fear internet security is not that good yet and may never be.Hackers always find a way.

But this would be
Via TV interactive
not the same as internet.

And Pre tests
would find out all the snags
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One vote per house wouldn't work. I quite often have voted differently to parents/siblings.
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Last time young voters voted for someone they believed in, said person went against pretty much everything he stood for in the election. That's why young voters don't give a **** anymore.
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One vote per house wouldn't work. I quite often have voted differently to parents/siblings.

They have ways of getting round that

Some homes have a TV for each person

And for those that do not
when you vote by the Red Button
you key in your own code.


Of Course Marsh
its all being worked out for the future

And everyone will Vote
by order
But there will be a option


"Press Red now
for none of the Above"


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Last time young voters voted for someone they believed in, said person went against pretty much everything he stood for in the election. That's why young voters don't give a **** anymore.

Thats OK Chewy

They need a Legal Binding Contract

But in any case those that Hate them all
Press Red
For None Of The Above

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How many times in the past have we seen people like him , rich famous relatively Young , diving into politics finding a cause.


It's like a new Project to him, a new flag to fly , a new bell to ring.

Something to do until the next new hallucinogenic drug comes along....





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Except that Brand had been involved in a number of political marches / protests, and I believe was even arrested at one for standing on top of a police car (this is off the top of my head, might not be the reason) years before he was rich or famous...
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Last time young voters voted for someone they believed in, said person went against pretty much everything he stood for in the election. That's why young voters don't give a **** anymore.
The two of them actually, not just Clegg (who I assume you mean). I remember a lot of young people at the time really enthusiastic about David Cameron and the things he was peddling pre-election... And he went back on nearly every single one of his pledges.
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