[elliebrew]

The person I see in the house is absolutelly NOT the person people are talking about.

Maybe that's what everybody needs: an open mind and an open heart. I see in her a person who must have struggled in her life because of people's opinions about her and created a character who is insensitive and awful.

But if you give her some understanding and acceptance, she will show her true self, a kind and funny and yet a little grumpy person. But a lovely one. That's exactly how Michelle is treating her and I couldn't be more proud of her for not following the sheep and hating Hopkins.

[MB.]

I think we got the message from your past 2,000 threads about Katie and Michelle.

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by MB.

I think we got the message from your past 2,000 threads about Katie and Michelle.

what like everyone else 5000 messages in favour king of the idiots Perez.

What like the countless cries of 'bully'

[armand.kay]

Don't mind him hun keep on preaching the truth.

[Black Dagger]

Stop trying to make Hopkins sound pleasant. It's never going to happen

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by _LucasMichael_

Stop trying to make Hopkins sound pleasant. It's never going to happen

x2

[Lostie!]

I don't care if her awful comments are part of a character (nor do I believe that, actually). That doesn't make what she says any better. Using that logic, it would be justifiable for me to run into a seriously ill patient's hospital room and mock their plight if I ended it with "not really, I'm just playing a character". I'm pretty sure it would be hurtful and wildly offensive regardless.

Of course, the "it's just a persona" thing is just one excuse used to justify her words, "she tells it like it is" and "she's just joking" being others.

It's also quite tiring to see some of her fans continuously blame others for judging her for comments she chooses to make. Sorry, but she alone bears the responsibility for any hurt she causes, her "I don't give offence, you take it" line is crap and a weak way to absolve herself of any responsibility for her own actions.

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

I don't care if her awful comments are part of a character (nor do I believe that, actually). That doesn't make what she says any better. Using that logic, it would be justifiable for me to run into a seriously ill patient's hospital room and mock their plight if I ended it with "not really, I'm just playing a character". I'm pretty sure it would be hurtful and wildly offensive regardless.

Of course, the "it's just a persona" thing is just one excuse used to justify her words, "she tells it like it is" and "she's just joking" being others.

It's also quite tiring to see some of her fans continuously blame others for judging her for comments she chooses to make. Sorry, but she alone bears the responsibility for any hurt she causes, her "I don't give offence, you take it" line is crap and a weak way to absolve herself of any responsibility for her own actions.

When did words begin to hurt and offend so much

When did we lose the ability to just shrug it off.

When did we start using offence as a weapon to destroy someones life and reputation.

Joan Rivers was an advocate for keeping humour raw, offensive, provocative.

If people stopped taking her so bloody seriously they'd see the brilliant character she is

[the truth]

shes a vile bully, who should have been booted out last week. joan rivers could be very funny, perez is funny, bully Hopkins isn't shes just a horrible bigot

[Daniel-X]

Katie Hopkins? An open heart? Okay...

Think you're slightly obsessed with Michelle and Katie they could stab everyone in the house to death and you'd still try and tell us they were nice people

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

When did words begin to hurt and offend so much

When did we lose the ability to just shrug it off.

When did we start using offence as a weapon to destroy someones life and reputation.

Joan Rivers was an advocate for keeping humour raw, offensive, provocative.

If people stopped taking her so bloody seriously they'd see the brilliant character she is

And there's a perfect example of what I was talking about in regards to blaming those who get offended, rather than the person causing the offence in the first place.

I don't recall ever attempting to destroy her life or reputation (the latter of which she's never had a positive one to destroy in the first place). I'm merely forming judgements on the things she says in public, which is entirely fair.

And people shouldn't have to shrug everything off, if somebody is angered or offended by something, they have every right to feel that way. They're not suddenly in the wrong for reacting to something offensive that someone chose to say publicly.

Also, and I'm genuinely curious about this, why is it just Katie's comments we should shrug off? Where is the "shrug it off" attitude towards Perez, for example? Why don't you "shrug off" any negativity towards Michelle instead of making several threads blasting anyone who doesn't like her? I'm not making a dig, I'm honestly wondering where the distinction begins.

[cfromhx02]

She generalises about everything,in what way is that open ?

She has closed,narrow minded,gen opinions about whole groups of people,

even you must see that,that is bigotry.

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by the truth

shes a vile bully, who should have been booted out last week. joan rivers could be very funny, perez is funny, bully Hopkins isn't shes just a horrible bigot

Perez has not made one humorous quip, one intelligent, witty remark.

You find juvenile grinding against a window and pulling tongues funny?

Wow that immature

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

And there's a perfect example of what I was talking about in regards to blaming those who get offended, rather than the person causing the offence in the first place.

I don't recall ever attempting to destroy her life or reputation (the latter of which she's never had a positive one to destroy in the first place). I'm merely forming judgements on the things she says in public, which is entirely fair.

And people shouldn't have to shrug everything off, if somebody is angered or offended by something, they have every right to feel that way. They're not suddenly in the wrong for reacting to something offensive that someone chose to say publicly.

I find it completely baffling that you're so passionately offended by someone on a reality tv show.

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

The person I see in the house is absolutelly NOT the person people are talking about.

Maybe that's what everybody needs: an open mind and an open heart. I see in her a person who must have struggled in her life because of people's opinions about her and created a character who is insensitive and awful.

But if you give her some understanding and acceptance, she will show her true self, a kind and funny and yet a little grumpy person. But a lovely one. That's exactly how Michelle is treating her and I couldn't be more proud of her for not following the sheep and hating Hopkins.

[Daniel-X]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Perez has not made one humorous quip, one intelligent, witty remark.

You find juvenile grinding against a window and pulling tongues funny?

Wow that immature

That's the thing about opinions

Just some of us don't choose to make 100'000 threads on them

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

I find it completely baffling that you're so passionately offended by someone on a reality tv show.

I find it completely baffling that you're so offended by people sharing differing opinions on a discussion forum.

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by LuciaX

That's the thing about opinions

Just some of us don't choose to make 100'000 threads on them

At the end of the day though, this is a forum, threads are meant to be made

[Black Dagger]

Only his opinion is allowed on this forum

[Daniel-X]

Originally Posted by Dollface

At the end of the day though, this is a forum, threads are meant to be made

Yes I take your point you're completely right.

I'm just finding it annoying but I should probably just take it with a pinch of salt

[Tip]

As long as she has a closed gob I'm not bothered.

[bots]

Yes, KH is a darling of the sick and disadvantaged, a sole voice in support of minority groups. Always willing to show compassion to those that have suffered grief and loss .......... not

[GiRTh]

AN open mind and open heart? Hopkins has neither.

[Udanax]

she has an open mouth a lot of the time, i guess

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

And there's a perfect example of what I was talking about in regards to blaming those who get offended, rather than the person causing the offence in the first place.

I don't recall ever attempting to destroy her life or reputation (the latter of which she's never had a positive one to destroy in the first place). I'm merely forming judgements on the things she says in public, which is entirely fair.

And people shouldn't have to shrug everything off, if somebody is angered or offended by something, they have every right to feel that way. They're not suddenly in the wrong for reacting to something offensive that someone chose to say publicly.

Also, and I'm genuinely curious about this, why is it just Katie's comments we should shrug off? Where is the "shrug it off" attitude towards Perez, for example? Why don't you "shrug off" any negativity towards Michelle instead of making several threads blasting anyone who doesn't like her? I'm not making a dig, I'm honestly wondering where the distinction begins.

Perez has accused people in the house of really serious things. Unfounded and without basis.

He has taunted and feared and mad everyone in there feel bad. He has brought the atmosphere of the house down

EVERY SINGLE HOUSEMATE SAYS IT.

Any negativity from the forum towards Katie is based on preconceptions of her before she went in. Any negativity thrown at Michelle is because she dares to not follow the sheep and actually befriend Hopkins.

And i find irritating and intolerable that people through words around about them like, 'vile' and 'witch' etc

Its boils my piss because Michelle is a really really decent human being and I'm getting the feeling all the Perez support is FMs wanting to be anarchic and go against the grain.

It feels like trolling to me