[Niamh.]

Thoughts?


POPE FRANCIS HAS said it’s okay for parents to smack their children, once their dignity in maintained.
According to widespread reports this morning, the Pope made the remarks during his weekly general audience.
Speaking about the role of fathers in the family, he said a good father should be able to “correct with firmness”.
“One time, I heard a father in a meeting with married couples say ‘I sometimes have to smack my children a bit, but never in the face so as to not humiliate them’,” Francis said, according to the Guardian.
“How beautiful.” the Pope added.



He knows the sense of dignity! He has to punish them but does it justly and moves on.
A representative of the Vatican press office said the Pope wasn’t speaking about committing violence, but about helping children to grow and mature.
Child protection
Meanwhile, Pope Francis warned clergy yesterday they must never try to cover up sexual abuse, as a new Church child protection panel prepared to meet for the first time.
In a strongly-worded letter to the heads of national bishops’ conferences and religious orders, he demanded “close and complete” cooperation with the watchdog he has established at the Vatican.
“Families need to know that the Church is making every effort to protect their children,” he said.
The Pontifical Commission for the Protection of Minors, which will hold its first full meeting today, has been given a brief to drive reform on an issue that has severely damaged the Church’s authority and reputation around the world.
Headed by American cardinal Sean O’Malley, it includes clerics and lay people from all corners of the world, including two victims of paedophile priests, Peter Sanders from Britain and Ireland’s Marie Collins.

http://www.thejournal.ie/pope-smacking-1923421-Feb2015/

[arista]

Yes Madame
The Pope backs you

[LeatherTrumpet]

irrelevant old fool

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

irrelevant old fool

This line



“One time, I heard a father in a meeting with married couples say ‘I sometimes have to smack my children a bit, but never in the face so as to not humiliate them’,” Francis said, according to the Guardian.
“How beautiful.” the Pope added.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

This line



“One time, I heard a father in a meeting with married couples say ‘I sometimes have to smack my children a bit, but never in the face so as to not humiliate them’,” Francis said, according to the Guardian.
“How beautiful.” the Pope added.

well he said last month that if someone insults your mother you should punch them


"oh this new pope is so refreshing and modern.."

this old fool lies for a living and gets paid to do so

[LeatherTrumpet]

How he got the gig of Boss of Ireland I will never know

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

How he got the gig of Boss of Ireland I will never know

Not so much anymore

[Creggle]

Can only agree tbh, look how children turn out when they don't get a slapped arse, it's never good.

I'd punch someone if they insulted my mother too, so this old geeza is bang on if you ask me

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Creggle

Can only agree tbh, look how children turn out when they don't get a slapped arse, it's never good.

I'd punch someone if they insulted my mother too, so this old geeza is bang on if you ask me

How would you know how a child who was not "hit" turned out?

[Braden]

I don't think it's ever okay to smack your child.

[Mokka]

It's great,

all I have to do is threaten the kids to convert to Catholicism now to keep them in line

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

How would you know how a child who was not "hit" turned out?

I have 43,504 children

But seriously you can pretty accurately tell which children are disciplined and which aren't in public, a misbehaving little brat has a PC parent.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Creggle

Can only agree tbh, look how children turn out when they don't get a slapped arse, it's never good.

I'd punch someone if they insulted my mother too, so this old geeza is bang on if you ask me

Excuse me I have two children who are very well behaved and I have never laid a finger on them

Do you think those children who turn out nasty are like that because they're not hit? And how do you know they're not? They could be the ones who do get hit

[Jake.]

does he think he is the Katie Hopkins of the Catholic world or

[Jamesy]

You should be able to discipline your child without resorting to hitting them.

Those who usually hit their kids are those who didn't bring their child/children up well.

[T*]

Originally Posted by Creggle

Can only agree tbh, look how children turn out when they don't get a slapped arse, it's never good.

I'd punch someone if they insulted my mother too, so this old geeza is bang on if you ask me

but sticky mouse traps are bad?

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Excuse me I have two children who are very well behaved and I have never laid a finger on them

Do you think those children who turn out nasty are like that because they're not hit? And how do you know they're not? They could be the ones who do get hit

Then you're a good mother, some parents don't know wtf they are doing and don't do anything and their kids turn out horrible.

Yes some children who act up may be punished, but ones who abuse their parents and throw strops certainly aren't. If their parents are not good enough to discipline them 'peacefully' then there isn't much of a choice of what they can do to make their kid behave. I certainly think making 'smacking' illegal is ridiculous, it's not like parents would kick the shit out of their kid if they could, just need a little discipline. Legit abusive parents will hurt their children law or no law.

Originally Posted by Tom!

but sticky mouse traps are bad?

I don't punch hard enough to make somebody tear themselves to pieces and cause their insides to fall out.

What world do you live in to compare punching somebody to killing an animal, kid?

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

mess

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Creggle

Then you're a good mother, some parents don't know wtf they are doing and don't do anything and their kids turn out horrible.

Yes some children who act up may be punished, but ones who abuse their parents and throw strops certainly aren't. If their parents are not good enough to discipline them 'peacefully' then there isn't much of a choice of what they can do to make their kid behave. I certainly think making 'smacking' illegal is ridiculous, it's not like parents would kick the shit out of their kid if they could, just need a little discipline. Legit abusive parents will hurt their children law or no law.



I don't punch hard enough to make somebody tear themselves to pieces and cause their insides to fall out.

What world do you live in to compare punching somebody to killing an animal, kid?

So it's ok for bad parents to hit their kids because they're not good enough to discipline their kids any other way?

[T*]

Originally Posted by Creggle

I don't punch hard enough to make somebody tear themselves to pieces and cause their insides to fall out.

What world do you live in to compare punching somebody to killing an animal, kid?

Both inflict pain..
Who do you think you are calling me kid?

[Niamh.]

Pack it in you two

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

So it's ok for bad parents to hit their kids because they're not good enough to discipline their kids any other way?

Sticky subject really, there is no good answer to it, but for the benefit of the child then maybe. It is speculation as I don't have a kid, if I did then maybe my opinion would be different but I can't for the life of me see how a light slap on the leg would mess a kid's life up?

[Liam-]

My Mum has raised 4 kids, 3 from one relationship and me with my Dad, the only time she has ever laid a finger on one of us was me, when i was like, 11, i said something horrible about my Dad because he was punishing me, so she slapped my leg, I was the only one of her kids that she had ever done that to and she cried for longer than i did, she was mortified and never did it again.
Me and my siblings all grew up to be, decent enough people, never had any trouble and my parents have always said, they could take us anywhere and not have to worry about any of us misbehaving.

So personally i see no correlation between kids being smacked and their behaviour

That being said, i think parents should be able to punish their kids how they see fit, i don't mean beating them, but if a clip round the ear or the back of legs will be more effective for their child than taking away their consoles, then so be it, as long as it's not drastic or over the top.

[LeatherTrumpet]

I have never hit the small LTs and they have turned out ok


(prob should have smacked the mother tho...)

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

No he wasn't, he said he'd punch someone who had insulted his mother

what if it was his kid that insulted his mother?